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Old October 18th, 2009, 06:29 PM   #181
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My vote goes to London of course....
...but here are the sports venues in Paris :



Stade de France, 81,000


Parc des Princes, 49,000 (50/53,000 in 2012/13)


Arena 92 (approved), 32,000


Stade Jean-Bouin (approved), 22,000


Stade Sébastien-Charléty, 21,000


Stade Robert-Bobin, 19,000


Palais Omnisports de Paris-Bercy, 16,000



National Handball Arena (project), 15,000


Roland Garros, Court Philippe-Chatrier, 15,000


Roland Garros, Court Central (approved), 15,000



Stade Olympique Yves du Manoir (Colombes), 14,000 (will be replaced by the National Handball Arena in 2013)


Vélodrome Olympique Jacques-Anquetil, 14,000


Stade Duvauchelle, 13,000


Stade Bauer, 12,000


Roland Garros, Court Suzanne Lenglen, 10,000


Stade de Marville, 10,000


Stade Pierre de Coubertin, 5,000


Palais des Sports, 5,000


Palais des Sports de Levallois, 5,000


Roland Garros, Court n°1, 4,000


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Hippodrome de Vincennes, 60,000


Hippodrome de Longchamps, 50,000


Hippodrome d'Auteuil, 45,000


Hippodrome d'Enghiens, 20,000

Hippodrome de Maison Laffitte, 20,000

Hippodrome de St-Cloud, 15,000

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Old October 18th, 2009, 08:19 PM   #182
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Every Stadium in Melbourne(Including Flemington Race Course (130,000))
Total Capacity : 906,247

Every Stadium in London
Total Capacity : 645,250

Every Stadium in Sydney
Total Capacity : 862,500

Every stadium in Los Angeles
Total Capacity : 331,000

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I've a feeling these numbers are wrong. I'll still post them anyway, in the off chance they're correct.

Source ~ Word Stadiums
Your figures are wrong.

Certainly with regard to London.

If all stadia in London with a capacity of 1,000 or above are included, the total capacity would be north of 1 million.
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Old October 18th, 2009, 10:48 PM   #183
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Would that include motorsports and horse racing tracks?
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Old October 19th, 2009, 12:25 AM   #184
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Charlotte Motor Speedway - 167,000 seated; 217,000 total
ZMax Dragway - 30,000
Charlotte Motor Speedway Dirt Track - 19,500
Metrolina Speedway - 10,000
Concord Motor Speedway - 9,000
Charlotte Motor Speedway Auxiliary Track - 6,000
Carolina Speedway - 5,500
Concord Motor Speedway Support Track - 4,500

Yea, probably not gonna include race tracks are we?
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Old October 19th, 2009, 12:35 AM   #185
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Your figures are wrong.

Certainly with regard to London.

If all stadia in London with a capacity of 1,000 or above are included, the total capacity would be north of 1 million.
Be a gentleman and find out the stats for London then would you?
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Old October 19th, 2009, 12:39 AM   #186
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Race tracks generally don't count as stadiums. I thought Paris would have more facilities, especially indoor halls
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Old October 19th, 2009, 12:40 AM   #187
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Would that include motorsports and horse racing tracks?
It includes horse racing tracks (though we call them racecourses in England).

I hadn't included motorsports but, come to think of it, Brands Hatch is, as good as dammit, in London.

It has a capacity of 150,000 - though I don't know how much of that is permanent structure or how much is temporary or just natural grass banks.

I guess there are also one or two small Speedway stadiums in the London area as well.
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Old October 19th, 2009, 12:54 AM   #188
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Greyhound racing - Wimbledon and Romford...

A few 1000 ish ice rinks as well.
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Old October 19th, 2009, 01:35 AM   #189
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Looking through the isthmian league some of the London teams play at ludicrously sized stadiums... take my local club Thamesmead town, the 8th tier and a capacity of 6,000, average crowd = 64!

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Old October 19th, 2009, 01:53 AM   #190
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In the London metro area (I'm going to include those under construction):

Wembley (90,000)
Twickenham (82,000)
Emirates Stadium (60,432)
Stamford Bridge (42,055)
Craven Cottage (26,678)
Upton Park (35,303)
White Hart Lane (36,310)
Selhurst Park (26,309)
Loftus Road (18,200)
Griffin Park (12,763)
The Valley (27,111)
Brisbane Road (9,271)
The New Den (20,146)
Lords (29,000)
The Oval (23,500)
Madejski Stadium (24,250)
Vicarage Road (19,920)
Adams Park (10,000)
The Stoop (14,816)
Queen's Club (6,478)
Centre Court (15,000)
No. 1 Court (11,500)
No. 2 Court (4,000)
Crystal Palace National Sports Centre (15,500 expandable to 24,000)
Olympic Stadium (25,000 post-Olympics, 80,000 during)
Olympic Aquatics Center (17,500)
London Velopark (6,000 indoor and 6,000 outdoor)
Olympic Hockey Center (15,000 and 5,000)
Olympic Basketball Arena (12,000)
Olympic Handball Arena (7,000)
ExCeL Exhibition Centre (Four arenas averaging 8,000 each)
O2 Arena (23,000)


That totals 809,042. There are also a dozen or so stadiums that smaller football clubs play at and come in around 5,000 so add in roughly 60,000 there and you get 869,042. If you want to include stadiums that are expandable, the temporary seating the Olympics will bring and stadiums that will be under construction soon (new White Hart Lane), you get roughly 975,000. There are also probably some more venues I've forgotten.
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Old October 19th, 2009, 02:14 AM   #191
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Melbourne + Suburbs = Aprx. 1,027,200
Melbourne (as in, just Melbourne) = 906,247

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I don't think this thread is getting anywhere. Everyone is unsure what the OP meant by Stadium Capital of the Word.
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Old October 19th, 2009, 02:21 AM   #192
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It's hard to find exact city vs city comparisons for number of individual stadiums, and often they're actually out of the city limits in suburbs or within a state or province. And a stadium can seat a couple thousand up to 250,000 (Indianapolis Motor Speedway).

Countries with over 40 stadiums:
United States 1,808
Brazil 670
Germany 510
Spain 428
United Kingdom 365
France 306
Italy 289
South Korea 246
Canada 231
Poland 189
Finland 186
Australia 184
Turkey 177
Mexico 168
Switzerland 157
Japan 138
Portugal 113
Argentina 111
Sweden 92
China 86
Russia 85
Indonesia 84
Hungary 81
Romania 78
Ireland 77
Belgium 74
Netherlands 73
Colombia 69
Czech Republic 66
Norway 66
Chile 64
Ecuador 63
South Africa 62
Austria 61
Bulgaria 56
Ukraine 56
Uruguay 56
Greece 55
India 54
Morocco 52
Venezuela 49
Nigeria 48
Denmark 48
Peru 46
Pakistan 46
Iran 43

If you break down the United States by each state it's:
Texas 161
California 101
Florida 75
Ohio 69
Pennsylvania 56
Illinois 55
Michigan 54
North Carolina 54
New York 53
Indiana 48
Alabama 48
Georgia 47
Tennessee 46
Virginia 45
Louisiana 44
Wisconsin 42
Maryland 41
Washington 39
Missouri 37
Minnesota 36
South Carolina 36
Arizona 35
Colorado 33
Massachusetts 33
Arkansas 32
Iowa 31
New Jersey 30
Oregon 30
Oklahoma 29
Kentucky 28
Connecticut 28
Utah 27
Mississippi 26
West Virginia 23
Kansas 23
Nevada 21
Nebraska 20
New Mexico 19
Delaware 15
Idaho 15
New Hampshire 14
North Dakota 14
South Dakota 13
Montana 13
Alaska 13
Hawaii 11
Vermont 10
Maine 10
Rhode Island 10
District Columbia 9
Wyoming 6

Source: http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium...t/100000.shtml
If someone wants to go into that website and count stadiums in each city, have at it.

Ha, Tokyo Racecourse has a capacity of 223,000 but only 13,750 seats.

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Old October 19th, 2009, 02:29 AM   #193
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ryebreadraz you've left a lot of places off the London metro area like Gillingham, Southend, Woking, Luton etc i'll add to your list
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Old October 19th, 2009, 02:37 AM   #194
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ryebreadraz you've left a lot of places off the London metro area like Gillingham, Southend, Woking, Luton etc i'll add to your list
Go for it. I don't know London all that well so the ones I listed are just the ones that came up in a search. I'd love to see what it all comes out to.
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Old October 19th, 2009, 02:47 AM   #195
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list of some of the football clubs left off in the city and metro down to tier 8, adds up to 128,112.

Left off
Most non league clubs outside of the city
Lower league rugby clubs
smalller cricket grounds

metro
Southend United (12,396)
Luton Town (10,226)
Ebbsfleet United (5,011)
Gillingham (11,582)
Dartford (4,100)
Molesey (4,000)

city
Barnet (5,568)
Dagenham (6,000)
hayes and yeading (4,300)
wimbledon (sharing with kingstonian) (4,772)
Bromley (5,000)
hampton and richmond (3,500)
Welling united (4,500)
Carshalton athletic (5,000)
Harrow Borough (3,070)
Hendon (sharing with wembley) (3,000)
Hornchurch (3,500)
Sutton united (8,000)
wealdstone (sharing with northwood) (2,000)
tooting and mitcham (3,500)
Enfield (sharing with brimsdown) (2,000)
hillingdon borough (3,587)
Ilford (3,500)
Leyton (4,000)
Thamesmead town (6,000)
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Old October 19th, 2009, 03:01 AM   #196
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More metro football clubs

Grays athletic - 4,500
Crawley Town - 4,996
Stevenage Borough - 7,100
Woking - 6,036
Thurrock - 3,500
St albans city - 4,500
Staines town - 3,000
Maidenhead united - 3,000
Waltham abbey - 3,500
Canvey island - 4,308
Borehamwood - 4,502
Tonbridge angels - 3,000

Rugby union- guiness championship

London welsh - 5, 850
London scottish- 4,500

Cricket

county cricket ground, beckenham (kcc) 5,000
whitgift school, croydon (scc) 5,000
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Old October 19th, 2009, 03:10 AM   #197
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Be a gentleman and find out the stats for London then would you?
I see others have already done pretty comprehensive lists. But here's what I came up with anyway. I rounded figures up or down to nearest 1000. I didn't include the more distant London satellites, like Southend, Luton etc.

National stadia:

Wembley..............................90,000
Twickenham..........................82,000

Premier League and Football League stadia:

Emirates...............................60,000
Stamford Bridge.....................42,000
White Hart Lane.....................36,000 (plans to increase to 58,000)
Upton Park............................35,000
The Valley.............................27,000
Craven Cottage......................26,000
Selhurst Park.........................26,000
Vicarage Road........................22,000
The New Den.........................20,000
Loftus Road...........................19,000
Griffin Park.............................13,000
Brisbane Road..........................9,000
Victoria Road...........................6,000
Underhill.................................6,000

Non League Football club stadia (not a complete list, by any means, because I ran out of energy!):

The Borough Sports Ground........7,000
Church Road............................6,000
Stonebridge Road.....................5,000
Kingsmeadow...........................5,000
War Memorial Sports Ground.......5,000
New Recreation Ground..............4,000 (plans to increase to 7,000)
Clarence Park...........................4,000
Woodside Park..........................4,000
Princes Park.............................4,000
The Warren..............................3,000
Bishopsford Road.......................3,000
Champion Hill............................3,000
Beveree Stadium.......................3,000
Wheatsheaf Park.......................3,000
Short Lane Stadium...................3,000
Earlsmead................................3,000

Club Rugby stadia:

The Stoop.............................13,000
Richmond Athletic Ground..........4,000
Priory Lane.............................2,000

Cricket:

Lords....................................29,000 (plans to increase to 40,000)
The Oval...............................23,000 (plans to increase to 25,000)

Tennis:

Wimbledon Centre Court...........15,000
Wimbledon No. 1 Court.............12,000
Wimbledon No.2 Court...............4,000
Wimbledon No.3 Court...............2,000 (to be completed 2011)
Queens Club............................7,000

Athletics:

London Olympic Stadium...........80,000 (to be reduced to 25,000, post Olympics)
Crystal Palace........................15,000
New River Stadium...................5,000

Arenas:

O2 Arena...............................23,000
Wembley Arena.......................13,000
Earls Court.............................11,000
Olympia Arena.........................4,000

Racecourses:

Epsom Downs.........................100,000
Ascot....................................80,000
Sandown Park........................(guess - 30,000?)
Kempton Park.........................(guess - 30,000?)

Motorsport:

Brands Hatch..........................150,000

Future Olympic venues:

Aquatics Centre......................17,000 (to be reduced to 2,500 post Olympics)
Velodrome..............................6,000
Handball Arena........................6,000
Hockey Centre........................5,000

Greyhound Racing:

Wimbledon..............................8,000
Romford.................................4,000

Speedway:

Arena Essex Raceway...............10,000+?
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Melbourne + Suburbs = Aprx. 1,027,200
Melbourne (as in, just Melbourne) = 906,247

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I don't think this thread is getting anywhere. Everyone is unsure what the OP meant by Stadium Capital of the Word.
Despite a rather unnecessary interlude, when debate was derailed by an argument about comparative sports attendances in the US and Europe, I think the thread has already got somewhere!

There appears to be a general consensus that, taking into account all factors - ie numbers of stadiums, size of stadiums, iconic nature of stadiums etc - London is the "stadium capital" in question.
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Race tracks generally don't count as stadiums. I thought Paris would have more facilities, especially indoor halls
I was quite impressed by Paris' list of stadiums, actually - especially since it doesn't have any major football teams other than PSG.
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Despite a rather unnecessary interlude, when debate was derailed by an argument about comparative sports attendances in the US and Europe, I think the thread has already got somewhere!

There appears to be a general consensus that, taking into account all factors - ie numbers of stadiums, size of stadiums, iconic nature of stadiums etc - London is the "stadium capital" in question.
Lol. Yea. Well it seems to have got back on topic now.

I too would say that London is the stadium capital of the world. However, Melbourne doesn't do too badly for a city with a population of 4 million up against cities with populations exceeding 10 million.

Edit: Slightly offtopic, but interesting nonetheless.

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The study found Melbourne had an "unparalleled track record reputation" for hosting sport, with international events industry bosses also praising its "versatility, stadia, city atmosphere and local passion for all sports".

The study to find the best location to hold a sports event was completed by London-based consulting and research firm ArkSports, whose clients include the NFL, BT, Visa and Ladbrokes.

Berlin, in Germany, was fourth, with London fifth. Twenty of the world's top sports cities were selected for the study, based on their history of hosting events.

As well as being overall winner, with 341.5 points -- 29 points ahead of its nearest rivals -- Melbourne was top for the level of public interest in events, its facilities, its number of major events won and the level of government support.
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