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Old November 9th, 2010, 06:07 PM   #341
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London is impressive especially since the Olympic stadium is coming which will give London four stadia over 60,000 seats (Twickenham (England rugby home), Wembley(home of England football), Emirates (Arsenal FC) and Olympic)with excellent facilities including the worlds most expensive stadium not to mention others such as Chelsea's Stamford Bridge, Tottenham's White Hart Lane, Wimbledon Centre Court and Court One, The Oval cricket ground (Cricket), Boleyn Ground (West Ham United), Loftus Road (QPR), The New Den (Millwall), Brentford FC, Watford, The Valley (Charlton Athletic), Craven Cottage (Fulham) and Selhurst Park (Crystal Palace) but 'pound for pound' (i.e. taking population into consideration, I'd also mention Melbourne, Australia - sports nuts city which includes stadium alley - Melbourne Cricket Ground, The Etihad Stadium, Rod Laver Arena, The new footie stadium I can't remember the name of and another stadium next to that which I also can't remember.
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Old November 10th, 2010, 01:14 AM   #342
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Okay after watching some videos of the Cowboys stadium standing room called party pass I have to agree lot of the people there are just able to watch the screens but I guess we should still not count it as an 80 000 stadium because people in the first rows of each level might be able to watch the field which should increase the capacity from 80 000 to 90 000 or something like that.

Sorry for posting 110 the truth is that I went to a game there last year and I loved it and was impressed by the stadium size, it looked really BIG and I never noticed the people in the party pass couldn't see much. I thought the floor there would have some slight inclination.
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Old November 10th, 2010, 01:20 AM   #343
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that jumbotron screen at the dallas stadium is incredible
Yeah it's awesome and sometimes you can see the replays in 4 different angles at the same time and you can still get a great view.
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Old November 10th, 2010, 03:35 AM   #344
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Yeah, yeah: everything is bigger in Texas...

BUT...but everything is posh in France :


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My vote goes to London of course....
...but here are the sports venues in Paris :



Stade de France, 81,000


Parc des Princes, 49,000 (50/53,000 in 2012/13)


Arena 92 (approved), 32,000


Stade Jean-Bouin (approved), 22,000


Stade Sébastien-Charléty, 21,000


Stade Robert-Bobin, 19,000


Palais Omnisports de Paris-Bercy, 16,000



National Handball Arena (project), 15,000


Roland Garros, Court Philippe-Chatrier, 15,000


Roland Garros, Court Central (approved), 15,000



Stade Olympique Yves du Manoir (Colombes), 14,000 (will be replaced by the National Handball Arena in 2013)


Vélodrome Olympique Jacques-Anquetil, 14,000


Stade Duvauchelle, 13,000


Stade Bauer, 12,000


Roland Garros, Court Suzanne Lenglen, 10,000


Stade de Marville, 10,000


Stade Pierre de Coubertin, 5,000


Palais des Sports, 5,000


Palais des Sports de Levallois, 5,000


Roland Garros, Court n°1, 4,000


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Hippodrome de Vincennes, 60,000


Hippodrome de Longchamps, 50,000


Hippodrome d'Auteuil, 45,000


Hippodrome d'Enghiens, 20,000

Hippodrome de Maison Laffitte, 20,000

Hippodrome de St-Cloud, 15,000



So, Paris wins, doesn't it ???
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Old November 10th, 2010, 10:09 AM   #345
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Old November 10th, 2010, 01:30 PM   #346
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Okay after watching some videos of the Cowboys stadium standing room called party pass I have to agree lot of the people there are just able to watch the screens but I guess we should still not count it as an 80 000 stadium because people in the first rows of each level might be able to watch the field which should increase the capacity from 80 000 to 90 000 or something like that.
You may be able to get 10000 people on them, but if people can't actually watch the game on 95% of the surface then 95% of the surface isn't really part of the "capacity".

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Sorry for posting 110 the truth is that I went to a game there last year and I loved it and was impressed by the stadium size, it looked really BIG and I never noticed the people in the party pass couldn't see much. I thought the floor there would have some slight inclination.
With an inclined floor it'd be lethal. Even without one, standing areas with poor views and no concept at all of safety like that were swept away 100 years ago in other parts of the world. It's actually quite remarkable it's allowed.

It is a terrific stadium though. If the world cup goes the the USA in 2022 then I'd love to go to a game there.
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Old November 12th, 2010, 01:08 PM   #347
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this is such a hard argument.

a lot of places in america have a lot of stadiums but then compared to England or Australia it has a much vaster population.

in my opinion London would win due to the levels of which sport is competed.

you have the massive stadium such as Wembley and Twickenham, big grounds owned by the clubs who play there such as the Emirates and Stamford Bridge in the premier league , quite a few 20,000+ grounds in the first and second and third tier of association football (such as West Ham's Boleyn Ground, Charltons Valley, Millwall's New Den etc) , and this goes all the way down to the bottom professional league (Dagenham & Redbridge, Barnet) aswell as dozens and dozens of grounds belonging to smei professional teams such as Dulwhich Hamlet, Hendon, Hampton & Richmond, Clapton. And thats just football.

you have Lords and the Oval for cricket (two of the oldest and most iconic grounds in the world), aswell as dozens of cricket grounds around greater london that occasionaly host county cricket (Ilford is the only one that springs to mind now), most of these can easily fit a few thousand people on grass verges and temporary stands.

As for Rugby, you have The Stoop (home of Harlequins), The Sports Ground (home of Wasps), Madejski Stadium (home of London Irish, whihc admittedly is in Reading but that counts as London Metro).

Tennis, we have Queens club and of course the world renowned wimbledon (the competition EVERY tennis player in the world dreams of winning)

and on top of that there is The o2, Wembley arena and Earls Court Arena, Crystal Palace Athletics.

i think due to the amount of stadiums, most of which are attended on a very regular basis, (many of them have been continually attended for almost 100 years) all of which essentially (apart from a few in the metro area) are in a city thats less than 30miles wide. that, along with the history make London my bid for sports capital of the world.

while i see the argument for some of the american cities such as dallas or LA, i genuinly believe that the above points are something that these cities dont have. i mean many american grounds are very well attended, and have been for many many years, but i think the main one for me (which is something i believe england wins hands down over a lot of countries around the world) is the levels of which these sports are supported.

football being my main example of this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English..._league_system

when you consider JUST the top 7 levels of Football in england consists of 270 teams.

London and Greater London football teams

Premier League:
Arsenal
Chelsea
Fulham
Tottenham Hotspur
West Ham

Championship:
Crystal Palace
Millwall
Queens Park Rangers

League One:
Brentford
Charlton
Dagenham & Redbridge
Leyton Orient

League Two:
Barnet

Conference National:
Hayes & Yeading
AFC Wimbledon

Conference South:
Bromley
Hampton & Richmond
Welling

Isthmian League:
Carshalton
Cray
Kingstonian
Harrow
AFC Hornchurch
Sutton
Wealdstone
Tooting & Mitcham

Isthmian League Division one North:
Enfield
Hillingdon
Ilford
Leyton
Molesey
Northwood
Redbridge
Thamesmead
Waltham Forest
Wingate & Finchley

Isthmian League Division One South:
Corinthian Casuals
Croydon
Dulwich Hamlet
Metropolitan Police

thats 40 football teams within the m25 ring road. all of which have a ground capacity of 3000 minimum. and all of which have their own ground i believe, except Dulwhich Hamlet who share their ground Fisher FC, and Bromley and Cray FC who share the Courage Stadium.

You show me ANY city in the world that has a pedigree as class as that. and thats just for ONE sport!!
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Old November 12th, 2010, 11:39 PM   #348
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New York/North Jersey

Yankee Stadium (New York Yankees, Pinstripe Bowl) 52,325:
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Citi Field (New York Mets) 41,800


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New Meadowlands Stadium (New York Giants, New York Jets, Big City Classic, Superbowl XLVIII) 82,566

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Madison Square Garden (New York Rangers, New York Knicks, New York Liberty, Big East Men's Basketball, St. Johns University) 20,789
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Prudential Center (New Jersey Nets, New Jersey Devils, Seaton Hall University, NJIT, New York Liberty) 18,500
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Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum (New York Islanders, New York Majesty) 16,250
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Red Bull Arena (Red Bull New York) 25,189
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Izod Center (Vacant) 20,049


Rutgers Stadium (Rutgers Scarlet Knights Football) 52,454
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Louis Brown Athletic Center (Rutgers Scarlet Knights Basketball/Wrestling) 8,000



Radio City Music Hall (New York Liberty) 6,015


Richmond County Bank Ballpark (Staten Island Yankees) 7,171
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MCU Park (Brooklyn Cyclones) 7,500
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Arthur Ashe Stadium (US Open) 22,547

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Louis Armstrong Stadium (US Open) 10,200



Robert K. Kraft Field at Lawrence A. Wien Stadium (Colombia University) 17,000



Icahn Stadium (FIFA Qualified) 5,000


And I'm sure theres a ton more I can't even think of...
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Old November 13th, 2010, 04:12 AM   #349
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Rutgers is in North Jersey?
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Old November 13th, 2010, 08:43 PM   #350
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Rutgers is in North Jersey?
Yup, main campus is in New Brunswick with a satellite campus in Newark.
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Old November 14th, 2010, 01:54 PM   #351
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As I said earlier, the stadium does not have standing room for 30,000. I doubt it has designated standing room for more than a few hundred at most.

Until you can show where the 30,000 fit inside the stadium, they can't be, by any rational logic, included in the capacity of the stadium.

A stadium's capacity is the number of people it can allow to watch the game at any one time. It is not the number of tickets that you can sell.

Bugbrooke St Michaels FC of the United Counties League could no doubt fit 50,000 into the fields around where they play, but that doesn't give the Birds Close ground a capacity of 50,000.
Couldn't agree more, by Dallas logic, when Wales play England in the 6 Nations we could put a gate at each end of St Mary Street and Westgate Stree surrounding the Millennium Stadium, call it a party zone and have probably 200000-250000 people in attendance.
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Old November 16th, 2010, 12:11 AM   #352
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London, Los Angeles, and Melbourne. No one else comes close.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 01:38 AM   #353
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London, Los Angeles, and Melbourne. No one else comes close.
What does LA have that New York Doesn't? With the exception of the Staples Center, all of LA's Stadiums are more than 45 Years old, where as in New York, within the next 5 years every major stadium and arena with the exception of the IZOD center will either been built or refurbished within the last decade. Everything in NYC is state of the art, and there's more of them than in LA.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 02:06 AM   #354
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London, Los Angeles, and Melbourne. No one else comes close.
LA is FAR from being the stadium capital of even the US
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Old November 17th, 2010, 02:26 AM   #355
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In terms of sheer numbers and capacity, Los Angeles would be my guess? Because LA has a large venue.

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Old November 17th, 2010, 05:58 AM   #356
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Please don't take anything I wright the wrong way.
I am only going to talk about the 3 cities that have been discussed most (London, LA and Melbourne) and am not trying to make any judgement as to what is the 'stadium capitol'.
I think to justify the name 'stadium capitol of the WORLD' you need to look at more than the amount and size of the stadiums but at there significance to world sport. in this case (sorry americans) but I would have to say that most American cities fall down in this respect as most significant stadiums in america are built for American Football, Baseball and basketball which are all good sports and popular in America but quite frankly no one outside of the US gives a toss about them. due to this I wont include anything about those sports just as I wont discuss anything to do with Australian football.
LA is probably an exception to this rule as it has hosted 2 Olympics and a world cup therefor many of its sporting grounds hold significance.
I will just look at melbourne for a start, the only stadiums wich hold any sort of significance are listed below. there are obviously many other stadiums for domestic sport (AFL, A League, NRL, Cricket, VFL, etc...) but does anyone outside of Australia really care about Docklands, AAMI park, etc...? nope
Melbourne has MCG (100,000) Which has hosted the Olympics, Commonwealth games, first cricket test match. Rod laver arena/melbourne park, Australian Open. Kooyong ex Aussie open. Flemington racecourse, Melbourne cup. Albert park, F1 grand prix.
Same could be done for london, Wembley, Lords, Wimbledon, etc.. are the recogniseable stadiums. The league stadiums really mean nothing.
So I think when trying to look at what makes a city a sporting capitol of the WORLD and not just of the country you have to look at the icons rather than the sheer amount.

By the way I looked at melbourne just because I know it not because I think it is the capitol.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 07:30 AM   #357
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Yeah, Melbourne is certainly not "Stadium" capital of the world though it would be one of the top "Sports" Capitals with many claiming from in and outside Australia that it is the top sports city.

For a City of 3.9 million Melbourne has an incredible amount of quality Sporting infrastructure, still it can be argued that the like's of Sydney which isn't much larger and other comparable sized former Olympic cities have a similar amount of broad venues. Sydney probably pips Melbourne in the quantity of quality as the suburban venues have continued to be used thus maintained at 15 000 plus capacities while the former VFL grounds have been left to become rundown and overgrown or to be transformed by developers.

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Old November 17th, 2010, 09:11 AM   #358
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LA is FAR from being the stadium capital of even the US
I dont think any city in America can beat LA. I think the NY region might be close.

Just off the top of my head, major arenas and fields, nevermind the numerous places under 10,000 seats. ...

Staples Center - 19,000
Forum - 17,500
Sports Arena - 17,000
Pauly Pavillion - Is being renovated - 13,000
Galen Center - Brand new - 11,500
Ontario Center - Brand new - 11,000
Anaheim Pond - 17,000
Dodger Stadium - partly renovated, more to come - 56,000
Angel Stadium - renovated - 45,000
Hollywood Park
Santa Anita Park
Rose Bowl - renovations start in Jan - 92,000
Colosseum - 92,000
UCLA Tennis Center - 6000
Home Depot Center Soccer Stadium - new - 27,000
Home Depot Center Tennis Stadium - 13,000
Home Depot Center Track and Field Stadium - 20,000 permanent seats
Irwindale Speedway -
California Speedway - 100,000
Coming soon a new 80,000 seat event center.
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Old November 17th, 2010, 09:19 AM   #359
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...The league stadiums really mean nothing.
Stadiums of some of the worlds biggest and most popular teams in the sport which is by far the biggest and most popular on this planet certainly mean nothing.

Please..
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Old November 17th, 2010, 10:49 AM   #360
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I dont think any city in America can beat LA. I think the NY region might be close.

Just off the top of my head, major arenas and fields, nevermind the numerous places under 10,000 seats. ...

Staples Center - 19,000
Forum - 17,500
Sports Arena - 17,000
Pauly Pavillion - Is being renovated - 13,000
Galen Center - Brand new - 11,500
Ontario Center - Brand new - 11,000
Anaheim Pond - 17,000
Dodger Stadium - partly renovated, more to come - 56,000
Angel Stadium - renovated - 45,000
Hollywood Park
Santa Anita Park
Rose Bowl - renovations start in Jan - 92,000
Colosseum - 92,000
UCLA Tennis Center - 6000
Home Depot Center Soccer Stadium - new - 27,000
Home Depot Center Tennis Stadium - 13,000
Home Depot Center Track and Field Stadium - 20,000 permanent seats
Irwindale Speedway -
California Speedway - 100,000
Coming soon a new 80,000 seat event center.
You forgot Titan Stadium (10,000) and Weingart Stadium (22,335)
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