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Old December 11th, 2010, 02:12 AM   #481
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highbury was reduced from 60,000 prior to 1987, I've got Football Grounds of Great Britain (1987) and it says Arsenal reduced the capacity voluntarily to 57,000 no year. I'd assume in the early 80s because our highest crowd in that decade was around 57,000 against villa in 1981.
in what way did arsenal reduce voluntarily? did they close a section of terracing or just allow fewer people on to it, so highbury didnt physically change?
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Buenos Aires has the highest concentration of any professional association football team of any city in the world, which means that Buenos Aires could possibly be a literal "Stadium Capital of the World".
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Old December 11th, 2010, 06:53 AM   #483
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Buenos Aires has the highest concentration of any professional association football team of any city in the world, which means that Buenos Aires could possibly be a literal "Stadium Capital of the World".
More sports than just football use stadiums, which is why London has the edge over so many others
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Old December 11th, 2010, 07:08 AM   #484
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Buenos Aires has the highest concentration of any professional association football team of any city in the world, which means that Buenos Aires could possibly be a literal "Stadium Capital of the World".
i love football, i have a season ticket and have travelled the world watching my national team play. it is my favourite sport by a country mile. if BA was described as the association football capital of the world, given the facts, it would be hard to argue.

im aware that rugby union is played in BA and Argentina are actually very good, they like there horse racing too and enjoy a game of tennis. these four sports stand out a mile when looking at Argentine sports along with polo too!

in London there are sports that stand out from the others also. two codes of rugby, cricket, tennis, horse racing and of course football (the freemasons arms pub where the first rules for the modern game were drawn up is in London), other sports which are played and watched frequently include pool, snooker and darts which all stage world class events in London's arenas. London also hosts big american sports such as the NFL and NBA. i dont know if the NHL have come to town yet but London used to have its own ice hockey team too!

not only does London have some amazing stadia but it hosts World class events in them all of the time. London has to be the stadium capital not just for the many sizeable stadiums but the veritable "smorgasbord" of sports that are played there!

BA just cant compete!
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Old December 11th, 2010, 08:52 AM   #485
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Hi all ! im from buenos aires (first of all, sorry for my english xD)

All of this stadiums, except 2 (Parque roca & autodromo galvez) were built by the clubs without the support of private investment. In argentina is very difficult to build stadiums

Buenos aires and some of metropolitan area

Official name - Capacity - Year Opened

Hipódromo de San Isidro 100 000 1935
Antonio Vespucio Liberti 66 449 1938
Alberto J. Armando 57 446 1940
Presidente Perón 51 389 1950
Hipódromo Argentino 50 000 1908
Estadio José Amalfitani 49 747 1940
Tomás Adolfo Ducó 48 314 1947
Estadio Lanús 46 519 1929
Libertadores de América 44 000 2009
Estadio Pedro Bidegaín 42 000 1994
Don León Kolbovski 34 000
Estadio Eduardo Gallardón 33 542
Estadio Florencio Solá 33 351
José Luis Meiszner 33 000
Estadio Nueva España 32 500
Ciudad de Vicente López 31 000
Estadio Monumental 30 000
Estadio Nueva Chicago 28 500
Diego Armando Maradona 25 000
Arq. Ricardo Etcheverry 24 858
Estadio Chacarita Juniors 24 300
Estadio 20 de Octubre 20 000
Estadio El Gallinero 19 000
Estadio 3 de Febrero 19 000
Estadio G.E.B.A. 18.000
Alfredo M. Berangert 18 000
Estadio Islas Malvinas 17 000
Estadio Ciudad de Caseros 16 500
Campo Argentino de Polo 15 000
Parque Roca 14 510
Argentino de Quilmes 12 000
Defensor de Belgrano 8 500
Deportivo Armenio 8 100
Norberto Tito Tomaghello 8000
Estadio Luna Park 8000
Lawn Tennis Club 8 000
Coliseo del Bajo Belgrano 6 500
Estadio Nacional de Hockey 6 000
Estadio Norman Lee 5000
José Manuel Moreno 5000
Estadio de los Inmigrantes 5000
Avenida del Golf 5 000
Estadio Obras Sanitarias 4700
Estadio Alfredo Ramos 3.500

if im not wrong this gives us a total of 1.042.725 btw, where not talking about other inferior football divisions in buenos aires (about 60 other teams, with stadiums of 6000 capacity in average, Do the maths )

Anyway, except for 10 stadiums, the rest can't even compared with beautiful stadiums in london

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Old December 11th, 2010, 02:55 PM   #486
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in what way did arsenal reduce voluntarily? did they close a section of terracing or just allow fewer people on to it, so highbury didnt physically change?
The book says they put toilets and a refreshment bar into the north bank, and that makes sense because if you look at pictures in the 1970s and 1980s the north bank definately doesn't go as far at the back.

The basically reduced the stadium progressively from a maximum of around 70,000 in the mid 60s, to 63,000 when they put the seats in on the west stand 1970, and 57,000 at the time they put the refreshments bar etc in. The stadium didn't require any work for the safety in sports grounds act.

I'll scan some pictures up later...
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Old December 11th, 2010, 04:33 PM   #487
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Hi all ! im from buenos aires (first of all, sorry for my english xD)

All of this stadiums, except 2 (Parque roca & autodromo galvez) were built by the clubs without the support of private investment. In argentina is very difficult to build stadiums

Buenos aires and some of metropolitan area

Official name - Capacity - Year Opened

Hipódromo de San Isidro 100 000 1935
Antonio Vespucio Liberti 66 449 1938
Alberto J. Armando 57 446 1940
Presidente Perón 51 389 1950
Hipódromo Argentino 50 000 1908
Estadio José Amalfitani 49 747 1940
Tomás Adolfo Ducó 48 314 1947
Estadio Lanús 46 519 1929
Libertadores de América 44 000 2009
Estadio Pedro Bidegaín 42 000 1994
Don León Kolbovski 34 000
Estadio Eduardo Gallardón 33 542
Estadio Florencio Solá 33 351
José Luis Meiszner 33 000
Estadio Nueva España 32 500
Ciudad de Vicente López 31 000
Estadio Monumental 30 000
Estadio Nueva Chicago 28 500
Diego Armando Maradona 25 000
Arq. Ricardo Etcheverry 24 858
Estadio Chacarita Juniors 24 300
Estadio 20 de Octubre 20 000
Estadio El Gallinero 19 000
Estadio 3 de Febrero 19 000
Estadio G.E.B.A. 18.000
Alfredo M. Berangert 18 000
Estadio Islas Malvinas 17 000
Estadio Ciudad de Caseros 16 500
Campo Argentino de Polo 15 000
Parque Roca 14 510
Argentino de Quilmes 12 000
Defensor de Belgrano 8 500
Deportivo Armenio 8 100
Norberto Tito Tomaghello 8000
Estadio Luna Park 8000
Lawn Tennis Club 8 000
Coliseo del Bajo Belgrano 6 500
Estadio Nacional de Hockey 6 000
Estadio Norman Lee 5000
José Manuel Moreno 5000
Estadio de los Inmigrantes 5000
Avenida del Golf 5 000
Estadio Obras Sanitarias 4700
Estadio Alfredo Ramos 3.500

if im not wrong this gives us a total of 1.042.725 btw, where not talking about other inferior football divisions in buenos aires (about 60 other teams, with stadiums of 6000 capacity in average, Do the maths )

Anyway, except for 10 stadiums, the rest can't even compared with beautiful stadiums in london

peace
There certainly are an incredible number of football stadiums (and teams!) in BA.
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Old December 11th, 2010, 04:52 PM   #488
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Stadium capacity and number of stadiums mean a variety of things in different countries. If you include motor racing try and imagine those huge Nascar tracks in the USA...makes any stadium seem small. But if you take a city like Melbourne. 4 million people, the central city area a few square kilometers includes the MCG, Etihad Stadium, AAMI Stadium and Melbourne Park Tennis centre not counting a few other sporting fields within the central city area.......The attendance record week after week speaks for itself.....OK I live here but I have never seen a more sporting city anywhere.
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Old August 24th, 2011, 10:13 PM   #489
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Old August 25th, 2011, 02:00 AM   #490
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In the US: these are the only cities that have a MLB Stadium, NFL Stadium, NBA/NHL quality arena, MLS stadium, and a Nascar racetrack.

1) Dallas
2) Chicago
3) Kansas City
Dallas is the only city in the US that hosts all 5 major leagues in sport specific stadiums, has Nascar, and can host a final four and a super bowl. I think that makes it hands down the USA winner if history is not a factor.

*LA will join the list with Farmers field

I don't think their is a single city in the world that can host every single sporting event so there is no clear cut winner, but London and Melbourne are definitively the front runners. (Dallas can't host cricket, Melbourne doesn't have an NBA/NHL quality arena, London doesn't have a baseball stadium, etc)

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Old August 25th, 2011, 05:27 AM   #491
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Also in the Dallas area there is The Cotton Bowl Stadium, SMU, TCU and UNT's stadiums and arenas.

College Football Stadiums
SMU is NEW...ish
TCU is getting a remodel
UNT has a brand spanking new football stadium.

ALSO there are tons of high school stadiums and arenas in the Metroplex owned by huge school districts for all their high schools to use that are better than what some Division 2 Colleges have.
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Old August 25th, 2011, 11:49 AM   #492
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i live in London,but have visited Melbourne,and both are great cities.Its true that all Melbourne's major sporting venues are sited in the city centre,while Londons are spread out.The problem with Melbourne is that cricket and AFL are concentrated in just one stadium..quite a few of the AFL teams now play at the G,
London has two historic cricket grounds,used solely for that sport,and a historic Rugby ground,used soley for that sport...i think Melbourne is best described as the more practical sporting city
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Old August 25th, 2011, 12:29 PM   #493
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The problem with Melbourne is that cricket and AFL are concentrated in just one stadium.
No. Etihad Stadium with 56600 capacity is the other AFL/Cricket/Football venue which also has a retractable roof.
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Old August 25th, 2011, 12:44 PM   #494
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No. Etihad Stadium with 56600 capacity is the other AFL/Cricket/Football venue which also has a retractable roof.
OK,so you have two stadiums for those sports...London has 2 for cricket,1 for Rugby,one for the Olympics,and two 60k plus football stadiums... THE MCG has,as its tennants,the Victorian Bushrangers
Melbourne Stars
Collingwood Football Club
Hawthorn Football Club
Melbourne Football Club
Richmond Football Club
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Hi all ! im from buenos aires (first of all, sorry for my english xD)

All of this stadiums, except 2 (Parque roca & autodromo galvez) were built by the clubs without the support of private investment. In argentina is very difficult to build stadiums

Buenos aires and some of metropolitan area

Official name - Capacity - Year Opened

Hipódromo de San Isidro 100 000 1935
Antonio Vespucio Liberti 66 449 1938
Alberto J. Armando 57 446 1940
Presidente Perón 51 389 1950
Hipódromo Argentino 50 000 1908
Estadio José Amalfitani 49 747 1940
Tomás Adolfo Ducó 48 314 1947
Estadio Lanús 46 519 1929
Libertadores de América 44 000 2009
Estadio Pedro Bidegaín 42 000 1994
Don León Kolbovski 34 000
Estadio Eduardo Gallardón 33 542
Estadio Florencio Solá 33 351
José Luis Meiszner 33 000
Estadio Nueva España 32 500
Ciudad de Vicente López 31 000
Estadio Monumental 30 000
Estadio Nueva Chicago 28 500
Diego Armando Maradona 25 000
Arq. Ricardo Etcheverry 24 858
Estadio Chacarita Juniors 24 300
Estadio 20 de Octubre 20 000
Estadio El Gallinero 19 000
Estadio 3 de Febrero 19 000
Estadio G.E.B.A. 18.000
Alfredo M. Berangert 18 000
Estadio Islas Malvinas 17 000
Estadio Ciudad de Caseros 16 500
Campo Argentino de Polo 15 000
Parque Roca 14 510
Argentino de Quilmes 12 000
Defensor de Belgrano 8 500
Deportivo Armenio 8 100
Norberto Tito Tomaghello 8000
Estadio Luna Park 8000
Lawn Tennis Club 8 000
Coliseo del Bajo Belgrano 6 500
Estadio Nacional de Hockey 6 000
Estadio Norman Lee 5000
José Manuel Moreno 5000
Estadio de los Inmigrantes 5000
Avenida del Golf 5 000
Estadio Obras Sanitarias 4700
Estadio Alfredo Ramos 3.500

if im not wrong this gives us a total of 1.042.725 btw, where not talking about other inferior football divisions in buenos aires (about 60 other teams, with stadiums of 6000 capacity in average, Do the maths )

Anyway, except for 10 stadiums, the rest can't even compared with beautiful stadiums in london

peace
how many of those are actually in the city of BA,and how many are in the province of BA?
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The book says they put toilets and a refreshment bar into the north bank, and that makes sense because if you look at pictures in the 1970s and 1980s the north bank definately doesn't go as far at the back.

The basically reduced the stadium progressively from a maximum of around 70,000 in the mid 60s, to 63,000 when they put the seats in on the west stand 1970, and 57,000 at the time they put the refreshments bar etc in. The stadium didn't require any work for the safety in sports grounds act.

I'll scan some pictures up later...
When did the boxes over the clock go up? That would probably have reduced the capacity.
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In the US: these are the only cities that have a MLB Stadium, NFL Stadium, NBA/NHL quality arena, MLS stadium, and a Nascar racetrack.

1) Dallas
2) Chicago
3) Kansas City
Dallas is the only city in the US that hosts all 5 major leagues in sport specific stadiums, has Nascar, and can host a final four and a super bowl. I think that makes it hands down the USA winner if history is not a factor.

*LA will join the list with Farmers field
you can include the Bay Area if the the 'Quakes somehow get a new stadium

and IMO Cincy has an argument -- Kentucky Speedway is only a 45-minute drive fr...oh wait...
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In the US: these are the only cities that have a MLB Stadium, NFL Stadium, NBA/NHL quality arena, MLS stadium, and a Nascar racetrack.

1) Dallas
2) Chicago
3) Kansas City
Dallas is the only city in the US that hosts all 5 major leagues in sport specific stadiums, has Nascar, and can host a final four and a super bowl. I think that makes it hands down the USA winner if history is not a factor.

*LA will join the list with Farmers field

I don't think their is a single city in the world that can host every single sporting event so there is no clear cut winner, but London and Melbourne are definitively the front runners. (Dallas can't host cricket, Melbourne doesn't have an NBA/NHL quality arena, London doesn't have a baseball stadium, etc)
Well there are many ways to qualify this thread. I still think the greater L.A. area wins hands down over Dallas.

LA has:

Seven 10,000+ seat arenas
2 MLB stadiums
5 minor league baseball teams, each with their own stadium
Two 90,000+ seat football stadiums, including one Olympic Stadium
Two NASCAR sanctioned racetracks
One MLS Stadium
Two World Class Thoroughbred racetracks
The Long Beach Pyramid (one of the most unique sports arenas in the world)
Plus the dozens upon dozens of smaller college baseball, football and basketball stadiums and arenas.

Last edited by Marckymarc; August 26th, 2011 at 06:37 AM. Reason: Forgot one of the 10,000+ seater arenas.
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Old August 26th, 2011, 06:37 AM   #499
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SEOUL (KOREA)

Jamsil Olympic Stadium (69,950)





Sangam World Cup Stadium (68,476)





Mokdong stadium (20,236)





Hyochang stadium (15,276)





Dongdaemun stadium (22,655 now demolished)

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Well there are many ways to qualify this thread. I still think the greater L.A. area wins hands down over Dallas.

LA has:

Seven 10,000+ seat arenas
2 MLB stadiums
5 minor league baseball teams, each with their own stadium
Two 90,000+ seat football stadiums, including one Olympic Stadium
Two NASCAR sanctioned racetracks
One MLS Stadium
Two World Class Thoroughbred racetracks
The Long Beach Pyramid (one of the most unique sports arenas in the world)
Plus the dozens upon dozens of smaller college baseball, football and basketball stadiums and arenas.
If Farmers field gets built then LA becomes the clear leader, but at the moment LA can't host a final four or superbowl and Dallas can so Dallas gets the edge IMO. I also have no connection to either city so I feel my opinion is unbiased.
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