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Old January 18th, 2012, 04:45 PM   #541
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Most Imp Grand Slam of the year is played @ Flushing meadows - U.S. Open

Most Imp Grand Slam of the year is played @ WIMBLEDON and that is in LONDON
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Old January 18th, 2012, 04:50 PM   #542
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Does rutherford stadium should have retractable roof? yes!

Does rutherford stadium NYC area despirately need retractable roof like london washed out cricket matches, lost days in test due to bad light? NO

does fans need retractable roof? NO

NFL is a religion in NYC metro area just like rest of USA. Fans dont care about snow, chill nothing. roof or no roof. you're lucky to even find a ticket.

NFL fans need 4 x Full High definition widescreens huge massive. they got that. to see the replay, slow motion etc etc.

NFL fans are their for 3 hours.

A reason why SUPERBOWL 2014 will be hosted by NYC at Rutherford, only time NFL made this concession to play in cold weather megacity.

this is much much bigger than summer olympics for us.
Man. YOU DON'T GET THE POINT! We are talking about sports infrastructure, not about US fans or about the superbowl.
First you say it's state-of-the-art, than you say they don't need a roof, because they insanely love the sport. You could say that about football in England as well (or many other countries for that matter). People don't go to games because of the roof, but a roof offers a higher level of comfort (maybe people want to take their kids or their grandparents to games and not get them all wet).
To have or not to have it? ...this is the question. Having these things is what makes a stadium state-of-the-art, NOT the fanatism of spectators. (how narrow minded are you if you don't get what we are talking about here?) And except this stadium, most of the sports infrastructure in NY is outdated, compared to London, or many other European or Asian cities. THIS is the subject of this thread, don't go wondering off into fairy tales. Or do it on another thread.
We got your point. New York has many and great stadiums and indoor arenas, it is definitely in the top 50 in the world. You've posted your option, like many others did, so move one. But if you want to start a (civilized) discussion, than you should also at least accept some technical facts from other forum members, don't just keep talking alone like a parrot.
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Old January 18th, 2012, 05:05 PM   #543
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Are you saying London isn't the capital of stadiums because it doesn't have a retractable roof over it's cricket stadiums?



Firstly - Test matches are played in London only 2 or 3 times a year.

Rest of the cricket season they play host to London based teams not International Matches.

Secondly.

Who ever claims the US Open to be the best grand slam?

You forget that over Wimbledon, London also hosts the Stella Artois and also the World ATP Finals at the Millennium Dome (Under a roof).

Thirdly - Football only got popular in the 80's in Britain?






200,000 fans cram into FA Cup final 1923

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Back before the war and new regulations about standing it wasn't uncommon for 140,000 to turn up to major footballing games on a regular basis.

Celtic and Aberdeen attracted 148,000 for chRIst sake in the 1930's.
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Old January 18th, 2012, 06:15 PM   #544
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PS What's the stadium capacity of NYC (that's where we left off before you got banned, twice, and all your adorable little posts about New York and America being so awesome got deleted)?
Mr total capacity guy

This is how New York City will easily mope the floor with non-"ProfessionL" club amateaurish sport city of LONDON

Old & New Yankee Stadium side by side on same block.

total Capacity: 140,000[/SIZE]

[IMG]http://i42.************/2jb61wy.jpg[/IMG]


Old & New Mets Stadium, side by side on same block

Total Capacity: 150,000

[IMG]http://i39.************/n5iw42.jpg[/IMG]


Old & New Giants/jets Stadium, side by side

Total Capacity: 180,000

[img]http://i43.************/1kk87.jpg[/img]

Add all those numbers, NYC is easily the Stadium Capital of the world. 2nd to none.

I wont even count rejected

New Jets Stadium = 90,000+ with retractable roof
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Old January 18th, 2012, 06:27 PM   #545
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Mr total capacity guy

This is how New York City will easily mope the floor with non-"ProfessionL" club amateaurish sport city of LONDON

Old & New Yankee Stadium side by side on same block.

total Capacity: 140,000[/SIZE]

DEMOLISHED

[IMG]http://i42.************/2jb61wy.jpg[/IMG]


Old & New Mets Stadium, side by side on same block

Total Capacity: 150,000

[IMG]http://i39.************/n5iw42.jpg[/IMG]

DEMOLISHED


Old & New Giants/jets Stadium, side by side

Total Capacity: 180,000

[img]http://i43.************/1kk87.jpg[/img]

DEMOLISHED

Add all those numbers, NYC is easily the Stadium Capital of the world. 2nd to none.

I wont even count rejected

New Jets Stadium = 90,000+ with retractable roof
Lol. Your arguments are so laughable it's hard to digest.

White City - 150,000
Old Wembley - 80,000 (Capacity to have at least been 124,000)
Highbury - 73,500 (Taylor Report 38,000)

So what.

London now has New Wembley, Olympic Stadium, Emirates, Twickenham.
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Old January 18th, 2012, 06:51 PM   #546
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Wrong again mr. Hindustani Pakistani or whatever...! And i prove it to you why...
These are the main stadiums in London (WITHOUT the ones under 10.000 capacity, so about 20stadiums left out from the list plus the future olympics venues!!!)

London Olympic Stadium 80 000
Wembley Stadium 90 000
Twickenham Stadium 82 000
Emirates Stadium 60 000
Stamford Bridge 41 841
White Hart Lane 36 214
Boleyn Ground 35 056
Lord's Cricket Ground 28 000
The Valley 27 111
Selhurst Park 26 309
Craven Cottage 25 678
Brit Oval 23 000
The New Den 20 146
The O2 Arena 20 000
Loftus Road 19 148
Crystal Palace Stadium 15 500
Matchroom Stadium 13 842
Centre Court 13 810
Griffin Park 12 763
Stoop Memorial Ground 12 500
Wimbledon Center Court 15.000 (the largest tennis stadium by capacity with a retractable roof in the world)
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TOTAL= 700.000 (plus about 150.000 from the venues not shown on the list)
I don't know if this makes London the stadium capital of the world, but it definitely outclasses NY.


P.S. Those photos are nice, but they are also HISTORY! The old Yankee stadium, the old Mets stadium, the old Giants stadium were demolished and sold piece by piece to the scrap yards. Who are you kidding here? Those are not there anymore. Don't exist. Gone. Finito. Get it?

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Old January 18th, 2012, 07:05 PM   #547
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It's simple, London is the stadium capital of the world!
http://www.worldstadiums.com/europe/...d/london.shtml
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Old January 18th, 2012, 07:13 PM   #548
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It's simple, London is the stadium capital of the world!
http://www.worldstadiums.com/europe/...d/london.shtml
only because NYC either demolishes or rejects 100,000 seater stadiums just for parking lots, traffic & wastage of open space.

Americans love to drive to their stadium.
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Old January 18th, 2012, 07:19 PM   #549
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only because NYC either demolishes or rejects 100,000 seater stadiums just for parking lots, traffic & wastage of open space.

Americans love to drive to their stadium.
True! Would they not take the subway I'm sure most major stadiums in NYC are served by a subway line? Most matches attended in London are by the tube/train/bus.
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Old January 18th, 2012, 08:05 PM   #550
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It's simple, London is the stadium capital of the world!
http://www.worldstadiums.com/europe/...d/london.shtml
By capacity London beats NY, but there's also this city:
http://www.worldstadiums.com/oceania...victoria.shtml
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Old January 18th, 2012, 08:14 PM   #551
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By capacity London beats NY, but there's also this city:
http://www.worldstadiums.com/oceania...victoria.shtml
Yeah Melbourne is great sporting city but most of Melbourne's major clubs share their stadiums e.g, MCG, Etihad stadium, AAMI Park, etc. In London not one football club shares it's stadium with a different club. It's a close call between London and Melbourne but i'd choose London simply for the average attendances and history of the stadiums in London.
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Old January 18th, 2012, 09:05 PM   #552
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London is the stadium capital of world followed by Melbourne and los angeles,
New york maybe in 4th place.

London is hosting olympics for 3rd time.......
Melbourne & los angeles hosted 1 time each.......
New York not even single time
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Old January 18th, 2012, 09:25 PM   #553
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London is the stadium capital of world followed by Melbourne and los angeles,
New york maybe in 4th place.

London is hosting olympics for 3rd time.......
Melbourne & los angeles hosted 1 time each.......
New York not even single time
http://www.sporcle.com/games/jonesjeffum/stadiumcity

New York isn't even in top 10!
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Old January 18th, 2012, 09:48 PM   #554
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Oh and sorry Hindypoos (I know you hate it when I do this ), but I'm gonna have to repost this:


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To recap for LONDON


(results just for the contiguous city, not even the metro)



Wembley Football 90,000 (in terms of footprint or building mass, one of the world's largest, but due to the
large, spaced seats capacity reduced - its more than twice the size of the 60,000 seater it replaced)

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Twickenham Rugby 82,000

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Ascot Horseracing, 80,000





Olympic Stadium 80,000

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Emirates Football Stadium 60,000








New Stamford Bridge Football 42,000 (formerly 100,000)





White Hart Lane Football, 36,000 (formerly 75,000)





Boleyn Ground Football 35,000 (maximum 42,000)





Lords Cricket Ground 32,000







All England Lawn Tennis Club, Wimbledon 30,500





The Valley Football, 27,000





Selhurst Park Football, 26,500





O2 central Arena (and world's largest dome, the Eiffel Tower would fit horizontally inside) Mixed Use, 26,000.
Also winner of world's best performance venue for the last few years in a row.







Craven Cottage 25,500, due to be increased to 30,000
(and yes, there really is a cottage on the grounds)





Brit Oval Cricket Ground 23,000






The New Den, 20,146





Earls Court Arena Mixed Use 20,000



Ex-Cel Stage Two Mixed Use 20,000





Stadiums under 20,000

Loftus Road 19,148
Crystal Palace Athletics Stadium 15,500
Matchroom Stadium 13,842
Griffin Park 12,763
Wembley Arena 12,500
Stoop Memorial Ground 12,500
Croydon Gateway Arena 12,500
Brisbane Road, 9,270
Borough Sports Ground 7,032
Church Road 6,500
Kingsmeadow 6,299
Underhill 6,200
Victoria Road 6,028
Glyn Hopkin Stadium 6,000
Bayliss Avenue 6,000
Old Deer Park 5,850
War Memorial Sports Ground 5,000
Courage Stadium 5,000
Kingsmeadow 4,720
Honeycroft 3,770
Cricklefield 3,500
C.P. National Sports Centre 3,500
Park View Road 3,500
Hornchurch Stadium 3,500
Wadham Lodge 3,500
Northwood Park 3,075
Elmsmead Stadium 3,070
Oakside 3,000
Vale Farm 3,000
Beveree Stadium 3,000
Keith Tuckey Stadium 3,000
Champion Hill 3,000
King George's Field 2,700
St George's 2,387
QEII Stadium 2,500
The Orchard 2,100
Berkeley Fields 2,000
New River Stadium 2 000
Farm Park 1,500
Alexandra Palace 1 250



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White Hart Lane Stadium planned 60,000




Olympic Aquatic Centre 20,000







Olympic Basketball Arena 12,000



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Eton Manor 10,500

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Olympic Handball Arena 6,000




Velodrome 6,000

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Total of built stadia, plus Olympic venues: 1,002,500 ish.

There are also plans for new grounds for West Ham FC in a 50-60,000 stadium, and a Chelsea one to replace Stamford Bridge that will be 60,000.


Consider the list doubled if you were to count those in the London metro.
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Old January 18th, 2012, 09:52 PM   #555
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Although I don't agree that new york is the stadium capital and frankly get annoyed with some of the arrogance from new yorkers, I have to point out that list is definately flawed. It does not take into consideration the new york metro area which should be the criteria. It lists yankee stadium as the largest in new york which is clearly metlife. I'm assuming none of the stadiums and arenas in new jersey got counted for that list. Any city that has hosted a recent olympics also should be high up on the list but that does not mean the stadiums are utilized well. I mean how many stadiums does athens have that are underutilized right now? According to the list my hometown of columbus is tied with 7 although I can name at least 3 more high school stadiums with a listed capacity of 10,000 or more in the metro so I would have to say it seems a little flawed.
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Old January 18th, 2012, 10:02 PM   #556
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I have to agree, it is a little out of date, but still a decent barometer to start with.
Very true. It would be interesting to see a list that had all of the stadiums of a metro and not city proper which is really what we think of when we are refering to a city although it may not change that much.
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Old January 18th, 2012, 10:24 PM   #557
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the London list btw is not the metro, only city contiguous. If you include the metro consider the list doubled
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My mistake indeed, I forgot the London Diamond League meeting...

But, please, be fair, look at the host stadium of this meeting in London vs e.g. Stade de France for the Paris Diamond League meeting (even vs the Stade Charléty who hosted this meeting before the construction of the SdF, and who still hosts the IAAF DecaNation), or vs the Berlin Olympiastadion, host of the Berlin Diamond League meeting, or again vs the Stade Louis II in Monaco, host of the Monaco Diamond league meeting etc

Not to mention the attendances.... Stade de France and Berlin Olympiastadion meetings are attended by more than 60-70K spectators each year.

BTW, most big cities are multicultural, Paris included, London is not an exception on that matter.
I know i spend a lot of time traveling around the world and have lived in many cities. I love Paris and have enjoyed many a good rave in Berlin also.

You are right, both of these cities are multicultural, but London is far more ethnically diverse than both Paris and Berlin.

Crystal Palace is a great 25,000 seat stadium but it is old now! I think the new Olympic Stadium in London will sell out for Diamond League meets, cant wait!

PS Athletics is very popular in the UK, the AAA (Amateur Athletics Association) were responsible for drawing up many of the rules used in modern day athletics. Of course, the modern Olympics is based on a British event hosted in Much Wenlock.

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You would struggle to get a ticket for a test at Lords or the Oval, they usually sell-out!
I dont believe you

If thats the case. Lords & ovals capacity would've been increased to 50,000-65,000 easily if this was the case.

I've seen empty lords & oval in tests & ODI series.

literally empty. such is the case. even ICC moved its headquartes from London to UAE more closer to now cricketing epicenter India.
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I dont believe you

If thats the case. Lords & ovals capacity would've been increased to 50,000-65,000 easily if this was the case.

I've seen empty lords & oval in tests & ODI series.

literally empty. such is the case. even ICC moved its headquartes from London to UAE more closer to now cricketing epicenter India.
Both are being expanded.
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