Newgate Street Hotel Site | Newcastle | 5fl & 6fl | Approved

[bigchrisfgb]

Originally Posted by Smash17

It's one of the biggest shitholes in the whole city.

Yup, it certianly is.

[AngerOfTheNorth]

Originally Posted by geordiejon

I do worry what the tenants will be though. Right next to stag and hen central and a 1 star hotel it will bound to be a massive attraction for this clientel.

I've been thinking the same thing. There's a lot of examples of a certain type of club and bar around there (the type that cater more for younger people wanting to get smashed and pull - which I'm not knocking as I've been to plenty when I was a few years younger), but also you have the Co-op, the new Debenhams and the new retail units that will come as part of the ES extension.

As a result I don't see either type of use being totally dislodged, but I can see this development swinging the balance more towards on or the other and I've not idea which way it'll go.

As for Idols (the place currently in the Newgate Shopping Centre), that place used to have some real knuckle-draggers coming out of there. I used to cycle past it as fast as I could on the rickshaw!

[Seamaster]

I think there's something to be said for containing all the underage drinkers and out-of-towners in one place. Leave the Bigg Market/Newgate Street/The Gate to them. It might mean grown-ups are attracted back into the rest of town in the evenings.

[AngerOfTheNorth]

True - at least that way you know where to steer clear of on a Saturday night!

[Bluegate74]

I do feel the City Council should insist on a piece of traditional architecture here, something by the likes of Quilnal Terry or John Simpson that will blend in with what is overall a handsome block of early to late Victorian buildings.

Eevn a good quality traditional facade fontinh a modern interior could work as it has been done to great effect by Joshn Simpson in the City of London. his current proposal, whilst finally replacing one of the worse eyesores in the city centre looks cheap and nasty.

[TownPlanningNE]

Anyone know if this has been granted planning permission? Also the thread title could perhaps be changed to reflect the SSC standard format?

[Newcastle Historian]

Originally Posted by TownPlanningNE

Anyone know if this has been granted planning permission? Also the thread title could perhaps be changed to reflect the SSC standard format?

Would you say the thread title should be something like . . .

Newgate St Swallow Hotel Site | Newcastle | 5fl & 6fl | Proposed

(Let me know and I will arrange)

[bigchrisfgb]

That sounds good to me, though surely we will soon find out if it's be given permission or not.

[TownPlanningNE]

Originally Posted by Newcastle Historian

Would you say the thread title should be something like . . .

Newgate St Swallow Hotel Site | Newcastle | 5fl & 6fl | Proposed

(Let me know and I will arrange)

Sounds good. Just with the amendment of the addition of the number of buildings and amount of floors to 6x4/7fl.

Newgate St Swallow Hotel Site | Newcastle | 6x4/7fl | Proposed

[TownPlanningNE]

Originally Posted by bigchrisfgb

That sounds good to me, though surely we will soon find out if it's be given permission or not.

Based on when it was submitted and the 13week target for major applications the decision should be soon!

[Newcastle Historian]

Originally Posted by TownPlanningNE

Sounds good. Just with the amendment of the addition of the number of buildings and amount of floors to 6x4/7fl.

Newgate St Swallow Hotel Site | Newcastle | 6x4/7fl | Proposed

Had put the name change to the mods before reading this . . and wasn't sure if everyone knew it as the 'Swallow Hotel' site, though that is what it was for 95% of its life!

[bigchrisfgb]

Surely this has been accepted or rejected by now?

[TownPlanningNE]

It should be decided anytime now... just have to keep a look out for the decision.

[TownPlanningNE]

Just to mention English Heritage aren't keen on the architectural quality of the designs although they seem content with the scale and massing. I have to laugh at one of the neighbour objections stating it is a monstrosity... What do they think of what is currently there??

[toonlad]

Its good that we have someone looking out for issues like 'architectural quality' these days. I hope English Heritage can push for proper stone cladding at least.

Where were EH when the ES South plans went in? Having a nap?

[kieron79]

Originally Posted by toonlad

Its good that we have someone looking out for issues like 'architectural quality' these days. I hope English Heritage can push for proper stone cladding at least.

Where were EH when the ES South plans went in? Having a nap?

Just what I was just thinking!

[AngerOfTheNorth]

Hopefully we'll see a reshuffle on the designs, especially the frontage onto Grainger St.

[ds7]

Seamaster: I think there's something to be said for containing all the underage drinkers and out-of-towners in one place. Leave the Bigg Market/Newgate Street/The Gate to them. It might mean grown-ups are attracted back into the rest of town in the evenings

On the topic of bars, do you think that if 'underage drinkers and out-of-towners' are on the stretch from Bigg Market to the Gate then 'grown-up' bars could be the answer to Pilgrim St's regeneration?
There's already some great bars (Popolo's, Blue Coyote, Bacchus, Tyneside Cinema bar) and restaurants (Paradiso, Flatbread, Pani's) there.

[AngerOfTheNorth]

I think it might well go that way although it'll depend upon how the East Pilgrim St area is developed I reckon.

A few more laid back bars along there would really offer something good to the city, to offer something different to the sorts of bars that you get in the Bigg Market/Gate and those you get on Collingwood St.

[ds7]

an area similar to Manchester's Northern Quarter but scaled down would be good around EPS, it would offer a nice change to the rest of the city.