Newcastle - 2015 Rugby World Cup Bid / 2018 Football World Cup Bid

[johnnypd]

Originally Posted by Chatton11

And to SCC! tbh, if either of them had missed out, when Bristol, Plymouth and MK got through it would have been a complete traversty.

Do you think (FIFA?) will schedule games at SJP and SOL on different days to reduce pressure on infrastructure? This would have the other added benefit of prolonged activity throughout the region, and at nighttimes, particularly in Newcastle and Gateshead. I know we're counting our chickens a bit here, but it's still very exciting!

On the previous point about Hillsboruogh not being selected, I think this would have been really wrong. Sheffield is a massive football city, (where if I believe correctly, the oldest football club hails from?), and is well-placed to handle an event such as this. The proposed improvements to the Stadium, which seem pretty comprehensive, do actually seem to be part of the future plans anyway, regardless of WC host status. Compare this with Leeds, who have just said they will improve if England get the nod.

I do wonder, as Ahmed pointed out what clubs such as Bristol City will do with their ginormous stadiums when they're getting cr@ppy attendances in the lower leagues.

ah, didnt realise they were doing hillsborough up. Elland Road is a bit of a dump too. it does put it into perspective how strong newcastle and sunderland's bids were when you take a look at some of the other stadia.

[Chatton11]

Absolutely. Just having a look, and it's essentially, all of the Euro 96 venues, plus 2 more london ones, 1 more manchester one, MK, Sunderland, Bristol and Plymouth. So recognition of decent stadia since then (SOL, Emirates, COMS), plus recognition of expanding clubs, with what will be new stadia (MK, Bristol, Plymouth, Spurs), and the Olympics, which, if a good stadium, in good infrastructure, should, of course, be used.

[bigchrisfgb]

Yes, great news, congrats go to Sunderland aswell, but great news, though I am disapointed London got 3 plus MK, which really makes it 4, but who cares?

[bigchrisfgb]

Just out of interest, does anyone think their will be an expansion on either stadium before the World Cup if England get it?

[johnnypd]

apparently there will be a further cull if england win the bid, so it's not a cast iron guarantee.

[bigchrisfgb]

Originally Posted by johnnypd

apparently there will be a further cull if england win the bid, so it's not a cast iron guarantee.

I would be surprised if 3 London stadia, Plymouth, and Bristol or MK was left standing after axing Newcastle. Atleast 1 London stadia will go, and I think atleast 2 will go from Plymouth, Bristol, and MK if not all 3, which would take us down to the level we need to be at.

[johnnypd]

i think the ones most likely to go would be those stadiums that aren't yet up to standards. FIFA will be making the choice if we win the bid next december and if they see small stadiums that aren't 100% guaranteed to be extended, or shoddy stadiums like elland road that aren't 100% guaranteed to be refurbished, then they'll see those as the easy ones to cull. Hopefully one London stadium would be removed as 3 is just too much, and maybe even one Manchester stadium.

the continuing worry about our bid is actually nothing to do with our bid - we're fine and, imo, we have the strongest bid outside of London and Manchester. the problem is sunderland's lack of facilities - FIFA might look and decide that we don't have enough to carry the load of another city and instead choose one instead of both. that would be tremendously unfair on us. hopefully the strength of SJP and SOL will be enough to carry us through, two of the best included in the bid.

[hollow man]

Am I alone in thinking there seems to be too many host stadiums selected?? Seems about 4 too many to me.

[bigchrisfgb]

Originally Posted by johnnypd

i think the ones most likely to go would be those stadiums that aren't yet up to standards. FIFA will be making the choice if we win the bid next december and if they see small stadiums that aren't 100% guaranteed to be extended, or shoddy stadiums like elland road that aren't 100% guaranteed to be refurbished, then they'll see those as the easy ones to cull. Hopefully one London stadium would be removed as 3 is just too much, and maybe even one Manchester stadium.

the continuing worry about our bid is actually nothing to do with our bid - we're fine and, imo, we have the strongest bid outside of London and Manchester. the problem is sunderland's lack of facilities - FIFA might look and decide that we don't have enough to carry the load of another city and instead choose one instead of both. that would be tremendously unfair on us. hopefully the strength of SJP and SOL will be enough to carry us through, two of the best included in the bid.

Yes, I really do hope both of us get included, if of course we are chosen to host the World Cup.

[johnnypd]

Originally Posted by hollow man

Am I alone in thinking there seems to be too many host stadiums selected?? Seems about 4 too many to me.

no you're right. as chris and i are discussing, fifa will make some further cuts.

[hollow man]

Originally Posted by johnnypd

no you're right. as chris and i are discussing, fifa will make some further cuts.

Oh i see. In that case I can see either us or Sunderland being cut.

[Smash17]

Very well done to both Sunderland and Newcastle getting selected. But Elland Road and Hillsborough? Both will need major improvements, Elland Road is a dump.

I think it's a total joke there's talk of having more than 2 stadia in London selected. It should be Wembley and one other, as has been said, Milton Keynes is close enough to make that 3.

[AngerOfTheNorth]

Milton Keynes isn't that close to London.

Either way I'd be surprised to see either Sunderland or Newcastle cut when you have the likes of Bristol, Plymouth, MK, Hillsborough etc on there.

[sterock85]

Well done to Newcastle-Gateshead!

The relief when Sunderland came out was amazing

On the point of facilities, im 100% certain this will be a catalyst to developments in the city and new hotels etc (if England are succesfull). So the strain on Newcastle-Gateshead won't be as much as believed, obviously it will have an effect still.

[Geordie Ahmed]

If England win the bid then in 2013 the final cities will be chosen.

I cant see Plymouth, Bristol or Milton Keynes getting it ahead of us.

Im also worried the FA might think giving it to Newcastle and to Sunderland is not a good idea - i hope im wrong BUT it is a long wait until then

[Smash17]

Originally Posted by Geordie Ahmed

If England win the bid then in 2013 the final cities will be chosen.

I cant see Plymouth, Bristol or Milton Keynes getting it ahead of us.

Im also worried the FA might think giving it to Newcastle and to Sunderland is not a good idea - i hope im wrong BUT it is a long wait until then

The choice has nothing to do with the FA now, it's FIFA who make any decisions on the stadia from this point onwards.

[Geordie Ahmed]

Originally Posted by Smash17

The choice has nothing to do with the FA now, it's FIFA who make any decisions on the stadia from this point onwards.

Oh right, didnt realise that

[Newcastle Historian]

We know this (!) but it is still nice to see it in PRINT . . .
Newcastle and Sunderland win World cup football bid
Dec 17 2009 by Adam Jupp and Dan Warburton, The Journal



THE North East was yesterday guaranteed World Cup football if England is successful in winning the right to stage the 2018 tournament. Both Sunderland and Newcastle Gateshead learned they had been selected as host cities as part of the Football Association’s application to host the soccer spectacular. It is estimated at least £58m will be injected into the regional economy as a result of the festival of football being held here, with images of the North East beamed to an estimated worldwide TV audience of 2.4 billion in 240 countries. Dan Warburton and Adam Jupp were with the Sunderland and Newcastle Gateshead bid teams when the news was announced

CHEERS rang round St James’ Park as Newcastle Gateshead was named a World Cup host city.

The Football Association (FA) yesterday announced games will be held on Tyneside if England is awarded the 2018 tournament.

Officials from the Newcastle Gateshead bid team packed into Shearer’s Bar inside the stadium as the FA revealed its list of cities, and they got the news they wanted as the so-called twin cities were included in the line-up, along with neighbours Sunderland and a host of other locations across the country.

Ex-Newcastle United midfielder Peter Beardsley, who played in the World Cup for England, led the celebrations.

He said: “Hosting World Cup football in Newcastle Gateshead would be an amazing experience for everyone, even if you’re a football fan or not. “I’m so happy that people in the region will have the chance to see some of the icons of football playing in their cherished stadium. “St James’ Park rightly deserves to be one of the venues selected and I’m proud to have played my part in bringing World Cup football to Tyneside.”

Newcastle Gateshead’s success comes after seven months of hard work preparing bid documents and being interviewed by FA officials.

They have had to identify which hotels would be used to house FIFA delegates and where fan parks would be set up. It is estimated hosting the tournament in the region will provide a £58m cash boost, with tens of thousands of fans flocking into the area during the month-long event.

Rachel Anderson, head of member relations at the North East Chamber of Commerce (NECC) said: “It is absolutely tremendous that both Sunderland and Newcastle Gateshead have won the chance to host matches at the 2018 World Cup.

“An enormous amount of work has gone into winning these bids and the fact that two cities in the North East have won this opportunity is a real accolade.

“It is estimated that visitors to the region spend between £50 and £150 a day and the influx of fans for an event like the World Cup would be a huge boost to the regional economy and raise the profile of the North East around the world. It is now up to the Government and the regional development agencies to capitalise on this.”

David Faulkner, deputy leader of Newcastle Council, said: “Newcastle has much to gain from being involved in England 2018. That is not only from the legacy of community and grass-roots football and sport, but also from the city being placed on the world stage, raising our profile to billions of potential visitors and boosting our tourism.”

Mick Henry, Leader of Gateshead Council, said: “We’ve known all along that the passion for football, and the fantastic facilities we have here in Gateshead and Newcastle, are deserving of competition at the highest possible level – and now we’re going to get just that.

“I think we can guarantee visiting fans from around the globe will have a fantastic reception, and local people will be itching to see some of the world’s best footballer’s right here in the North East. We’ll also be seeing real economic benefits from the competition and we’ll have an opportunity to showcase the region on the world stage.”

A key strand of both cities’ bid was the strong transport links the region has, including the Metro and two airports. David Laws, chief executive of Newcastle International, said: “We are delighted that the FA has recognised the outstanding bids both Sunderland and Newcastle Gateshead have put forward for the 2018 World Cup. The airport is closely involved in the bids and we will now be working hard to ensure England is successful.”

Andrew Dixon, Chief Executive of the NewcastleGateshead Initiative, said: “This is a proud moment for the twin cities of Newcastle Gateshead.

“To be part of England 2018 is a fantastic achievement, and the result of the true passion of the people of Newcastle Gateshead. The World Cup has always been about more than just world-class football, it is about putting us on the international stage, boosting tourism and bringing carnival to Tyneside.

[Newcastle Historian]

Originally Posted by BigLebowski

Whats the plan with regards to Newcastle's World Cup host city status? Is that now secure or do the cities have to be pared down further prior to the official bid (IIRC there were about 16 venues shortlisted, is this not too many for a 32 team tournament?)

Originally Posted by bigchrisfgb

If we do win the bid, which is to be decided in December then FIFA will remove 2-3 host cities from the bid. I myself can't see Newcastle losing out to the likes of Plymouth, Bristol, Sheffield, and Nottingham.

The position is as Chris says, and I agree that we will get the 'final' nod over those places he mentions!

I think the very last bit of actual 'news' I heard about this, is what is in the post immediately prior to this one.

[Newcastle Historian]

Niall Quinn urges North East to act as one
Mar 23 2010 by John Hill, The Journal


Sunderland AFC chairman Niall Quinn, has urged the North East to act as one to help secure England’s World Cup bid for 2018 and bring the region’s businesses a £60m bonanza.

He said the Sunderland bid team would be looking to work with the NewcastleGateshead bid to improve the country’s chances of getting the nod from Fifa in December.

Both were included by the FA in the roster of 12 host cities three months ago.

Quinn said: “That will have to happen before August, but we’ll take direction from the central bid office on this. Because we bid separately, the region became larger in the minds of the decision-makers and it was a smart move.

“We do foresee the time that we will become as one and the region will act as one. We’ll find an opportunity to make that announcement, as long as we can find the correct patch of land between here and Newcastle to do it. We haven’t actually sat down to discuss anything but the bid committee will certainly be looking for us to do that.”

With the FA’s bid set to be submitted to Fifa on May 14, Quinn said businesses should keep their doors open and publicise the bid campaign to ensure that the region is best placed to benefit from the estimated £3.2bn that would be injected by a World Cup.

It was estimated last year that the North East could receive a windfall of at least £58m from the World Cup, with visitors expected to flock to pubs, hotels, restaurants and shops during the tournament.

The 2002 Commonwealth Games in Manchester generated £36m in business opportunities and 16,000 jobs ranging from a few months to a decade. Visitors spent £12m during the competition.