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***Newcastle Historian*** · July 10th, 2011, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Newcastle Historian

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Historical Newcastle Great Park Documents - Parts 1 to 21.

We are covering approximately sixty projects on this forum at the moment, and most of them have their own individual 'Project Thread', the same as this one for the Newcastle Great Park project.

Before we came on-line as a Forum, many (fairly recent) major projects ('Angel of the North', 'Sage Concert Hall', etc, etc) came and went, so do not have their own records preserved on individual threads on here.

The 'Newcastle Great Park' project falls into that same category of major projects started long before this Forum came into being.

However, it is still "ongoing" (and will be for many years to come) so we DO have a thread for this one.

That was my reasoning behind publishing whatever (pre-forum) Newcastle Great Park documents that I had, to fill in the gap on this ongoing thread, for the period before this Forum arrived.

I have published 21 sets of documents and newspaper reports, and while they are not (by any means) fully comprehensive of everything that has happened, they at least give a flavour of some of the 'pre-forum' action on this project.

As we now return to 'current' NGP progress, I hope they were of some interest and value.
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Originally Posted by Adrian_Swall

What is the current 'state of play' with NGP. How many homes have been built of the intended 2500? Are there any other business there apart from Sage?

The earlier posts of this thread, such as Posts 24, 32 and 46 . . .

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...9&postcount=24
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...7&postcount=32
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...9&postcount=46

contain some of the latest information, along with other earlier posts on this thread.

You would need to do further research on the City Council Website, to get the actual full latest postion . . .

http://www.newcastle.gov.uk/core.nsf...astlegreatpark

Or perhaps on the actual 'Newcastle Great Park' Website itself . . .

http://www.newcastlegreatpark.com/

Over time, updates will periodically appear on this thread.

***Newcastle Historian*** · July 19th, 2011, 10:26 AM

Review into housing problems on Newcastle Great Park
by Andrew Glover, The Journal, July 19th 2011

A COUNCIL LEADER has ordered a review into the process that led to homes on an exclusive estate being built without necessary legal approval.

More than 50 houses in the Great Park area of Newcastle were built by developer Bryant Homes without Building Regulations Approval.

Because the builder, now known as Taylor Wimpey, did not apply to the council for the clearance a series of standard inspections did not take place.

The oversight emerged when families on the estate began to find defects on the homes.

One couple, Phil and Andrea Bell, paid for a private surveyor to inspect their home on the Melbury development, and were astonished to find over 50 flaws which they claimed would cost up to £50,000 to remedy.

The Bells and others affected by the blunder have been in correspondence with Newcastle City Council ever since the problems started to emerge.

Now Coun Nick Forbes, the leader of the authority, has now asked council legal chiefs to review the situation. Coun Forbes spoke to The Journal as he visited the estate and met residents to discuss the issue.

He said: “This is the newest big development in the city and I know that there have been particular issues here. I’m aware of the long-standing complaints that a number of residents have and have asked the head of corporate law to investigate them thoroughly.

Read More - http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-e...#ixzz1SXOosNKc

***Newcastle Historian*** · August 9th, 2011, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Newcastle Historian; May 17th 2011

Anger over Newcastle Great Park shop’s plan to sell drink
by Dan Warburton, The Journal, May 17 2011

FAMILIES have reacted angrily to a shop’s second bid to secure permission to sell alcohol, claiming it would spark an increase in anti-social behaviour.

Fears teenage gangs would take to the streets of Newcastle Great Park, Newcastle, saw local residents object to plans for a licensed shop when an application was submitted to Newcastle City Council in February.

That bid was thrown out by a city council committee, which said that it could “potentially lead to crime and disorder”. However, managers at the Londis store, on Featherstone Grove, have submitted an almost identical application to sell alcohol between 8am and 8pm.

Neighbours have said crime, loitering teenagers and alcohol-fuelled violence would increase if the plans were given the green light. One person who objected said: “An almost identical licence application was refused by the committee on February 15, 2011.

Read More - http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-e...#ixzz1Mb0gmVIc
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Parklands Ward, Newcastle upon Tyne - FOCUS (Summer 2011 issue) . .

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Adrian_Swall · August 9th, 2011, 10:20 PM

Can never understand why supermarkets / convenience / newsagents feel the need to sell liquor at 8 am? No wonder there are so many problems with alcoholism and drink related problems?

bigchrisfgb · August 10th, 2011, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Adrian_Swall

Can never understand why supermarkets / convenience / newsagents feel the need to sell liquor at 8 am? No wonder there are so many problems with alcoholism and drink related problems?

I think it should be illegal to sell alcohol before 12pm. I understand clubs go can stay open until the early hours of the morning and so can other establishments so therefor I would say a total ban on the sale of alcohol between the hours of 3am and 12pm should be in order with places that serving alcohol between 11pm and 3am being heavily watched and those sorts of licences not being handed out will nilly.

Working in convenience retail I see first hand what the effects of ready available and cheap alcohol can do to you, even more so then what people in pubs see.

Adrian_Swall · August 10th, 2011, 10:06 AM

Quite agree. However, the genie is now out of the bottle and supermarkets sell below cost price. I don't think NCC should allow local stores to sell alcohol for the hours they do. A local newsagent near me sells drink from 8.00 am and you can smell the drink on people in the morning. Pubs (not stand-up drinking establishments) are a lot more responsible how they serve drink.

***Newcastle Historian*** · November 1st, 2011, 02:32 PM

Dale Farm travellers set up camp in Newcastle Great Park
by Rachel Wearmouth, Evening Chronicle, November 1st 2011

Travellers at the 'Park and Ride' near the Sage offices at Newcastle Great Park

TRAVELLERS booted out of the illegal Dale Farm site have set up camp on Tyneside.

Declaring they will be here “for life”, around a dozen families are calling a car park in Newcastle their new home.

Caravans, transit vans, pets and people litter an area of Newcastle Great Park, which is just a stone’s throw from software firm Sage’s headquarters.

The caravans started to arrive on Saturday and it is said the car park’s new residents are refusing to budge.

A traveller, who was holding a baby but did not give his name, spoke in a thick Irish accent about the deadlock last night.

He said: “We were kicked out of Dale Farm.

“You probably saw it on the television. We have nowhere to go. It is a life on the road now.”

His partner, a woman, added: “We are here for life now.”

Read More - http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north...#ixzz1cSLhWW9Y

Irish Blood English Heart · November 2nd, 2011, 02:56 AM

You couldn't make it up.

***Newcastle Historian*** · January 18th, 2012, 10:57 AM

Anger at decision to build more houses at Hawthorn
Grange near Newcastle Great Park
by Andrew Glover, The Journal, January 18th 2012

OWNERS of luxury homes on a secluded development have expressed their anger after permission was given for more homes to be built.

Families who bought homes at Hawthorn Grange in Newcastle around two years ago, claim they were told they would have use of a paddock to the north of their land. But members of Newcastle City Council’s planning committee have now given original developer Field Luxury Homes consent to extend the site and build more houses on the land of the paddock.

Residents who bought the first 14 homes in countryside on the edge of Newcastle Great Park, have opposed plans for the three new properties. Gaynor Ball lives at Hawthorn Grange with her husband David, a pilot, and their two young children.

The 36-year-old said: “We were told that it was a rural gem with the amenities of Newcastle Great Park, with the shared use of a grass paddock with views to the North and to the East." "We were also told there was no plan to develop for at least 10 years. We’re not stupid, obviously someone was going to try and build on it but we didn’t expect it to happen so soon.

The land, off Brunton Lane, hasn’t been classified as green belt since 1998 and City Councillors were told the paddock was “covered in debris, top soil and building material, discarded on the land during the construction of the Hawthorn Grange development”.

Read More http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-e...#ixzz1jnnIT4fJ

tcollins · January 19th, 2012, 11:36 AM

It is a personal bug-bear of mine that the most vociferous opposition to new development tends to come from people living in the most recently-built houses. People never appreciate that at some point the plot their own house is built on used to be greenfield.

***Newcastle Historian*** · September 5th, 2012, 03:51 PM

North Newcastle £60m bypass to cut
through Newcastle Great Park
by Adrian Pearson, Evening Chronicle, September 5th 2012

image hosted on flickr

The site of a planned £60m bypass in North Newcastle, including through Newcastle Great Park

A MAJOR new £60m bypass will be built in Newcastle in the 'countryside' areas of North Newcastle, as city leaders prepare the way for thousands of new homes. City planners want to link up the A1 at the North Brunton junction to the A69, passing through Newcastle Great Park via the A696 near the Callerton Parkway Metro Station. The move would be paid for by developers keen to build a new generation of homes on Tyneside.

While the bypass will be welcomed by thousands of motorists using the congestion-hit route, it presents a new threat for campaigners looking to scupper plans by council leaders to build thousands of new homes on the edge of the city. City officials say that if or when new housing is built in the outer west, North of the A69, it will need new roads to access and service them.

Newcastle City Council wants to build 21,000 homes as part of a long-term plan to create more jobs and homes, called the One Core Strategy.

Read More - http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north...#ixzz25bLr8Xq4

Adrian_Swall · September 5th, 2012, 04:27 PM

This is a horrible plan.

This is the hidden agenda that NCC has always had when they have invited landowners and developers to come forward with plans to build on the green belt.

We are just heading for a huge urban sprawl across the Outer West.

WilfBurnsFan · September 5th, 2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Newcastle Historian

North Newcastle £60m bypass to cut
through Newcastle Great Park
by Adrian Pearson, Evening Chronicle, September 5th 2012

image hosted on flickr

The site of a planned £60m bypass in North Newcastle, including through Newcastle Great Park

A MAJOR new £60m bypass will be built in Newcastle in the 'countryside' areas of North Newcastle, as city leaders prepare the way for thousands of new homes. City planners want to link up the A1 at the North Brunton junction to the A69, passing through Newcastle Great Park via the A696 near the Callerton Parkway Metro Station. The move would be paid for by developers keen to build a new generation of homes on Tyneside.

While the bypass will be welcomed by thousands of motorists using the congestion-hit route, it presents a new threat for campaigners looking to scupper plans by council leaders to build thousands of new homes on the edge of the city. City officials say that if or when new housing is built in the outer west, North of the A69, it will need new roads to access and service them.

Newcastle City Council wants to build 21,000 homes as part of a long-term plan to create more jobs and homes, called the One Core Strategy.

Read More - http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north...#ixzz25bLr8Xq4

It will be very interesting to see a proper map of the proposed route, and whether it passes 'through' the NGP as the Chron has it or by-passes it. I can't imagine the NGP developers being too happy at having what will inevitably become a major through route (despite the single-carriageway talk) chopping right through their area.

Delaval · September 5th, 2012, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by WilfBurnsFan

It will be very interesting to see a proper map of the proposed route, and whether it passes 'through' the NGP as the Chron has it or by-passes it. I can't imagine the NGP developers being too happy at having what will inevitably become a major through route (despite the single-carriageway talk) chopping right through their area.

I'm not familiar with the masterplan of the NGP, but looking at the document referred to the proposed alignment is roughly on an east-west alignment skirting the northern edge of the Sage HQ and going through the middle of a housing site immediately to the west of the Sage offices.

I do worry about there being no dual carriageway options being considered. I only hope they safeguard the land and construct it in such a way that it could be expanded at a later date if necessary.

WilfBurnsFan · September 5th, 2012, 08:41 PM

Looks as if it will pass through Woolsington (Hall) Park too - looking at the map there's not enough room to pass north of the hall.

Northern Engineer · September 5th, 2012, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Newcastle Historian

North Newcastle £60m bypass to cut
through Newcastle Great Park
by Adrian Pearson, Evening Chronicle, September 5th 2012

A MAJOR new £60m bypass will be built in Newcastle in the 'countryside' areas of North Newcastle, as city leaders prepare the way for thousands of new homes. City planners want to link up the A1 at the North Brunton junction to the A69, passing through Newcastle Great Park via the A696 near the Callerton Parkway Metro Station. The move would be paid for by developers keen to build a new generation of homes on Tyneside.

While the bypass will be welcomed by thousands of motorists using the congestion-hit route, it presents a new threat for campaigners looking to scupper plans by council leaders to build thousands of new homes on the edge of the city. City officials say that if or when new housing is built in the outer west, North of the A69, it will need new roads to access and service them.

Newcastle City Council wants to build 21,000 homes as part of a long-term plan to create more jobs and homes, called the One Core Strategy.

Read More - http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north...#ixzz25bLr8Xq4

Wow didnt see that one coming

Suppose this road would improve access to Newcasle airport for those coming from the North and West and more importantly, relieve congestion on the kingston Park/Denton roundabouts which are nearly always busy.

jkkne · September 5th, 2012, 10:31 PM

Nimbys are in uproar apparently

BigLebowski · September 5th, 2012, 11:50 PM

An aerial view of the, *ahem*, affected 'green belt' area

toonlad · September 6th, 2012, 12:40 AM

Yeah NCC build all new homes out towards the airport, thats always a good idea!*

*dont mention Heathrow's third runway row

Jazmincleo · November 20th, 2012, 09:43 PM

As someone living on Great Park, this thread was a fascinating read. I've lived here since 2004 and there's been lots of changes to the estate since I moved in.

We didn't have a bus service for the first 2 years and it's only just 18 months since we got a shop, which was opposed by many many residents.

The estate has got some very decent people on it and we have our own community forum but there's a lot of discontentment on the estate too.

Great Park (East), which is Melbury and Warkworth are technically Gosforth in postcode NE3 however the rest is NE13 and technically a suburb of it's own. Melbury and Warkworth are annexed off from the rest of Great Park. We have no direct access now to the forthcoming town centre, school or facilities the estate is supposed to have. We have one way in and one way out, Brunton Lane and we're annexed off from Brunton Park too (coz they hate us).

North Gosforth Parish council, don't want us, they even went to central government to have Melbury and Warkworth taken off their remit and the boundary withdrawn but took parish council fees off us for 10 years without ever supplying a single service. Warkworth has just been adopted by the council but 9 years on Melbury still hasn't. The roads, pathways, parkland and lighting is still in control of the developers.

There is a new supermarket planned for the town centre, some of the town centre units are already built and await occupancy but it will be a long wait. Various rumours have existed as to whom will occupy the new supermarket but it's a substantial size. In 2008 we were told that Asda had plans for the site as they didn't have a 24 hour Asda in Gosforth, that has since changed. Sainsburys have been touted too with a much bigger store than the High Street branch but locally, most would like to see an Aldi. We all hoped the Wansbeck Road wouldn't become another Asda when Netto sold out to them and hoped for an Aldi but alas that never happened. We're not all snobby in Gosforth.

It's been interesting to see what people thought of the estate. It's very quiet here, most folk are nice and the shop is a godsend.

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July 19th, 2011, 10:26 AM	#102
*Newcastle Historian* Moderator and Archivist Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 15,116 Likes (Received): 71	Review into housing problems on Newcastle Great Park by Andrew Glover, The Journal, July 19th 2011 A COUNCIL LEADER has ordered a review into the process that led to homes on an exclusive estate being built without necessary legal approval. More than 50 houses in the Great Park area of Newcastle were built by developer Bryant Homes without Building Regulations Approval. Because the builder, now known as Taylor Wimpey, did not apply to the council for the clearance a series of standard inspections did not take place. The oversight emerged when families on the estate began to find defects on the homes. One couple, Phil and Andrea Bell, paid for a private surveyor to inspect their home on the Melbury development, and were astonished to find over 50 flaws which they claimed would cost up to £50,000 to remedy. The Bells and others affected by the blunder have been in correspondence with Newcastle City Council ever since the problems started to emerge. Now Coun Nick Forbes, the leader of the authority, has now asked council legal chiefs to review the situation. Coun Forbes spoke to The Journal as he visited the estate and met residents to discuss the issue. He said: “This is the newest big development in the city and I know that there have been particular issues here. I’m aware of the long-standing complaints that a number of residents have and have asked the head of corporate law to investigate them thoroughly. Read More - http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-e...#ixzz1SXOosNKc

August 9th, 2011, 10:20 PM	#104
Adrian_Swall Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,610 Likes (Received): 17	Can never understand why supermarkets / convenience / newsagents feel the need to sell liquor at 8 am? No wonder there are so many problems with alcoholism and drink related problems?

August 10th, 2011, 10:06 AM	#106
Adrian_Swall Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,610 Likes (Received): 17	Quite agree. However, the genie is now out of the bottle and supermarkets sell below cost price. I don't think NCC should allow local stores to sell alcohol for the hours they do. A local newsagent near me sells drink from 8.00 am and you can smell the drink on people in the morning. Pubs (not stand-up drinking establishments) are a lot more responsible how they serve drink.

November 1st, 2011, 02:32 PM	#107
*Newcastle Historian* Moderator and Archivist Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 15,116 Likes (Received): 71	Dale Farm travellers set up camp in Newcastle Great Park by Rachel Wearmouth, Evening Chronicle, November 1st 2011 Travellers at the 'Park and Ride' near the Sage offices at Newcastle Great Park TRAVELLERS booted out of the illegal Dale Farm site have set up camp on Tyneside. Declaring they will be here “for life”, around a dozen families are calling a car park in Newcastle their new home. Caravans, transit vans, pets and people litter an area of Newcastle Great Park, which is just a stone’s throw from software firm Sage’s headquarters. The caravans started to arrive on Saturday and it is said the car park’s new residents are refusing to budge. A traveller, who was holding a baby but did not give his name, spoke in a thick Irish accent about the deadlock last night. He said: “We were kicked out of Dale Farm. “You probably saw it on the television. We have nowhere to go. It is a life on the road now.” His partner, a woman, added: “We are here for life now.” Read More - http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north...#ixzz1cSLhWW9Y

November 2nd, 2011, 02:56 AM	#108
Irish Blood English Heart Letting off the happiness Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 4,296 Likes (Received): 34	You couldn't make it up.

January 18th, 2012, 10:57 AM	#109
*Newcastle Historian* Moderator and Archivist Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 15,116 Likes (Received): 71	Anger at decision to build more houses at Hawthorn Grange near Newcastle Great Park by Andrew Glover, The Journal, January 18th 2012 OWNERS of luxury homes on a secluded development have expressed their anger after permission was given for more homes to be built. Families who bought homes at Hawthorn Grange in Newcastle around two years ago, claim they were told they would have use of a paddock to the north of their land. But members of Newcastle City Council’s planning committee have now given original developer Field Luxury Homes consent to extend the site and build more houses on the land of the paddock. Residents who bought the first 14 homes in countryside on the edge of Newcastle Great Park, have opposed plans for the three new properties. Gaynor Ball lives at Hawthorn Grange with her husband David, a pilot, and their two young children. The 36-year-old said: “We were told that it was a rural gem with the amenities of Newcastle Great Park, with the shared use of a grass paddock with views to the North and to the East." "We were also told there was no plan to develop for at least 10 years. We’re not stupid, obviously someone was going to try and build on it but we didn’t expect it to happen so soon. The land, off Brunton Lane, hasn’t been classified as green belt since 1998 and City Councillors were told the paddock was “covered in debris, top soil and building material, discarded on the land during the construction of the Hawthorn Grange development”. Read More http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-e...#ixzz1jnnIT4fJ

September 5th, 2012, 03:51 PM	#111
*Newcastle Historian* Moderator and Archivist Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 15,116 Likes (Received): 71	North Newcastle £60m bypass to cut through Newcastle Great Park by Adrian Pearson, Evening Chronicle, September 5th 2012 image hosted on flickr The site of a planned £60m bypass in North Newcastle, including through Newcastle Great Park A MAJOR new £60m bypass will be built in Newcastle in the 'countryside' areas of North Newcastle, as city leaders prepare the way for thousands of new homes. City planners want to link up the A1 at the North Brunton junction to the A69, passing through Newcastle Great Park via the A696 near the Callerton Parkway Metro Station. The move would be paid for by developers keen to build a new generation of homes on Tyneside. While the bypass will be welcomed by thousands of motorists using the congestion-hit route, it presents a new threat for campaigners looking to scupper plans by council leaders to build thousands of new homes on the edge of the city. City officials say that if or when new housing is built in the outer west, North of the A69, it will need new roads to access and service them. Newcastle City Council wants to build 21,000 homes as part of a long-term plan to create more jobs and homes, called the One Core Strategy. Read More - http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/north...#ixzz25bLr8Xq4

September 5th, 2012, 04:27 PM	#112
Adrian_Swall Registered User Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,610 Likes (Received): 17	This is a horrible plan. This is the hidden agenda that NCC has always had when they have invited landowners and developers to come forward with plans to build on the green belt. We are just heading for a huge urban sprawl across the Outer West.

September 5th, 2012, 10:31 PM	#117
jkkne No You F'in Can't! Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Low Fell Posts: 861 Likes (Received): 18	Nimbys are in uproar apparently

September 5th, 2012, 11:50 PM	#118
BigLebowski Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Newcastle Posts: 1,108 Likes (Received): 1	An aerial view of the, ahem, affected 'green belt' area

September 6th, 2012, 12:40 AM	#119
toonlad Urban Environmentalist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Whitley Bay, nr. Newcastle upon Tyne, UK Posts: 1,542 Likes (Received): 12	Yeah NCC build all new homes out towards the airport, thats always a good idea!* *dont mention Heathrow's third runway row

November 20th, 2012, 09:43 PM	#120
Jazmincleo Registered User Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Newcastle Posts: 122 Likes (Received): 6	As someone living on Great Park, this thread was a fascinating read. I've lived here since 2004 and there's been lots of changes to the estate since I moved in. We didn't have a bus service for the first 2 years and it's only just 18 months since we got a shop, which was opposed by many many residents. The estate has got some very decent people on it and we have our own community forum but there's a lot of discontentment on the estate too. Great Park (East), which is Melbury and Warkworth are technically Gosforth in postcode NE3 however the rest is NE13 and technically a suburb of it's own. Melbury and Warkworth are annexed off from the rest of Great Park. We have no direct access now to the forthcoming town centre, school or facilities the estate is supposed to have. We have one way in and one way out, Brunton Lane and we're annexed off from Brunton Park too (coz they hate us). North Gosforth Parish council, don't want us, they even went to central government to have Melbury and Warkworth taken off their remit and the boundary withdrawn but took parish council fees off us for 10 years without ever supplying a single service. Warkworth has just been adopted by the council but 9 years on Melbury still hasn't. The roads, pathways, parkland and lighting is still in control of the developers. There is a new supermarket planned for the town centre, some of the town centre units are already built and await occupancy but it will be a long wait. Various rumours have existed as to whom will occupy the new supermarket but it's a substantial size. In 2008 we were told that Asda had plans for the site as they didn't have a 24 hour Asda in Gosforth, that has since changed. Sainsburys have been touted too with a much bigger store than the High Street branch but locally, most would like to see an Aldi. We all hoped the Wansbeck Road wouldn't become another Asda when Netto sold out to them and hoped for an Aldi but alas that never happened. We're not all snobby in Gosforth. It's been interesting to see what people thought of the estate. It's very quiet here, most folk are nice and the shop is a godsend.