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Old May 16th, 2010, 04:30 AM   #241
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Soccer isnt poplar in Australia
Bullshit. You watch come world cup time, no other Australian national team gets a following like the Socceroos do.
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Old May 16th, 2010, 04:47 AM   #242
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haha the bandwagon is coming back
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Old May 16th, 2010, 04:53 AM   #243
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haha the bandwagon is coming back
Yeah there are alot of bandwagoners. But to say football is not popular in Australia is just stupid.
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Old May 16th, 2010, 05:00 AM   #244
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i think they would hold it at brisbane rather than perth. suncorp stadium is one of the best rectangular stadiums in the world
Brisbane can't host a semi final. It's proposed stadium is too small.

Perth is only proposed to hold a semi final because its stadium will have the capacity. The more likely situation is the semi's will be played in Sydney and Brisbane regardless.
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Old May 16th, 2010, 05:02 AM   #245
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Yeah there are alot of bandwagoners. But to say football is not popular in Australia is just stupid.
soccer is actually the most common sport played by kids. this is not surprising when you consider that afl and nrl divide the nation and the fact that a lot of mothers don't want their kids playing contact sport.

Anyway, soccer is no where near as popular as afl but it is still reasonably popular i reckon (i think crowd attendances last year were actually on par with nrl). And its growing too

well not quite on par because there season doesn't go for as long but there averages are up there...
AFL 176 6,482,281 36,831 total attendance for season = 6,482,281
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S14 23 489,716 21,292 . total attendance for season = 489,716
NRL 170 2,689,449 15,820 total attendace for season = 2,689,449
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A-L 84 1,227,486 14,613 . total attendance for season = 1,227,486

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Old May 16th, 2010, 05:12 AM   #246
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a-league is doing bloody well in melbourne and sydney (which is why they are getting second teams) and it is a lot less popular in adelaide than it should be considering the reds made the afc champs league final and the 2nd round of the fifa world club cup, the other cities have a fair amount of support except for the gold coast who as a new team r struggling a little bit to get a fanbase
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Old May 16th, 2010, 05:23 AM   #247
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They're not struggling for a fanbase, it's just the tickets are overpriced (even NRL is overpriced). If they were on par with the rest of Australia, a lot more people would go.
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Old May 16th, 2010, 05:48 AM   #248
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soccer is actually the most common sport played by kids. this is not surprising when you consider that afl and nrl divide the nation and the fact that a lot of mothers don't want their kids playing contact sport.

Anyway, soccer is no where near as popular as afl but it is still reasonably popular i reckon (i think crowd attendances last year were actually on par with nrl). And its growing too

well not quite on par because there season doesn't go for as long but there averages are up there...
AFL 176 6,482,281 36,831 total attendance for season = 6,482,281
.
S14 23 489,716 21,292 . total attendance for season = 489,716
NRL 170 2,689,449 15,820 total attendace for season = 2,689,449
.
A-L 84 1,227,486 14,613 . total attendance for season = 1,227,486
Agree. Cheers for the stats.
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Old May 16th, 2010, 05:55 AM   #249
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Do they even know how to play soccer in Australia?
Since the introduction of the A-League and qualifying for Germany 2006 ,Australia Football has gone from strength to strength,especially the National Football team,the Socceroos.

Since that time in 2005,this is the average attendance for the Socceroos matches in Australia

Asian Cup Qualifiers: 29,648 per game (Respectable and are usually played in smaller venues ie:Canberra.

World Cup Qualifiers: 57,195 per game

International Friendlies: 66,901 per game

Now..Whats the attendances in Poland like?

Surely its must be much more than that considering its a football mad country?
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Old May 16th, 2010, 06:09 AM   #250
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Since the introduction of the A-League and qualifying for Germany 2006 ,Australia Football has gone from strength to strength,especially the National Football team,the Socceroos.

Since that time in 2005,this is the average attendance for the Socceroos matches in Australia

Asian Cup Qualifiers: 29,648 per game (Respectable and are usually played in smaller venues ie:Canberra.

World Cup Qualifiers: 57,195 per game

International Friendlies: 66,901 per game

Now..Whats the attendances in Poland like?

Surely its must be much more than that considering its a football mad country?
Never mind.I found it.

The Polish National League(Ekstraklasa) has an average attendance in 2009/2010 of.... 5,058

and just a quick look at their national team
2010 World Cup Qualifiers -Poland vs Slovenia (Wroclaw) - 7,300 people
2010 World Cup Qualifiers -Poland vs Slovakia (Chorzow) - 4,500 people

No point looking further.......
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Old May 16th, 2010, 06:16 PM   #251
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Never mind.I found it.

The Polish National League(Ekstraklasa) has an average attendance in 2009/2010 of.... 5,058

and just a quick look at their national team
2010 World Cup Qualifiers -Poland vs Slovenia (Wroclaw) - 7,300 people
2010 World Cup Qualifiers -Poland vs Slovakia (Chorzow) - 4,500 people

No point looking further.......
Twice the population of Australia as well.

Football is not the biggest sport in Australia, but it's still very popular and is a major player - much more popular than it is in America (for example).
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soccer is actually the most common sport played by kids. this is not surprising when you consider that afl and nrl divide the nation and the fact that a lot of mothers don't want their kids playing contact sport.
Ha ha - I watched the Reds v Highlanders game yesterday, and when a spot of handbags broke out one of the commentators made a joke, addressed to all the mothers watching, along the lines that nobody would have been hurt as nobody knew how to box.
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Old May 19th, 2010, 08:47 AM   #253
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Does the Australian bid book have the proposed locations for the draws, like the USA bid does? USA proposed NYC for the qualifying draw and MIA for finals draw.
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Old May 19th, 2010, 08:58 AM   #254
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If Australia wins the WC, then Canberra is bound to get an A-League place. Lets hope. It is about time they got a chance. Then hopefully Geelong can be considered. By that time Skoko can become the coach after his Heart spell lol

Seriously though all cities in the bid should have an A-League team, to build up to the WC. Hopefully by then theres atleast a B-League or A2 (whatever it would be called). It is 12 years away afterall (2022).

One point also, with it being 12 years away, if the bid is won (for 2022), when would the building works start? There is no need to start in 2011, with big upgrades for an event years away, but you do not want to do an Athens in 2004 or SA in 2010 and leave to the last minute to gain completion. Just brings in issues if strikes or other things occur. The budgets will be important to manage also to ensure that the spend is spread evenly.
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Rugby and AFL have to do everything to keep the sport from Dieing. Soccer charges parents huge money jsut for the privlidge of playing the game.

Soccer will be no 1 in Australia within 10.
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Soccer will be no 1 in Australia within 10.
Interesting points. The AFL and NRL have tried everything to make it difficult for a WC bid very clearly as a defensice tactic. They can use that compensation, and new venues, to support their respective games.

Football (soccer) has been kicked around alot in the past and now their rival codes are having to take them seriously. It does not go down well to them.

The time that media attention moves away from the AFL and NRL, who get so many pages in daily newspapers, which is free advertising, is the time they know they will fall back. NRL is already closest of the 2 sports to this position, with lower player numbers and lower corporate support. Growth is important to keep the money in the game.

As for Football (soocer) being number 1 in 10 years, that will be a big call. In player numbers maybe. Professionally, I do not see it though. It needs to get to a position that the game can keep its best talent here and be traken seriously as an alternative to looking overseas before that can happen.
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Old May 19th, 2010, 11:31 AM   #257
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Those that say that a WC would spell almost disaster for the other codes in terms of Soccer becoming more increasingly popular over the coming years, well perhaps, should the leagues be able to continue during a WC, imagine the exposure they will get with all the foreigners coming in watching the WC? One can easily expect an odd 100,000 or so coming to watch a bit of AFL or NRL too when not watching a WC game, expect matches to be held as such as to not clash with WC matches. Just imagine all the global exposure the other codes could get.
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Those that say that a WC would spell almost disaster for the other codes in terms of Soccer becoming more increasingly popular over the coming years, well perhaps, should the leagues be able to continue during a WC, imagine the exposure they will get with all the foreigners coming in watching the WC? One can easily expect an odd 100,000 or so coming to watch a bit of AFL or NRL too when not watching a WC game, expect matches to be held as such as to not clash with WC matches. Just imagine all the global exposure the other codes could get.
A small proportion of those would go anywhere near an AFL or NRL game. They are Football fans, the round ball game. Thats where their passion is.

The unfortunate thing is that AFL has tried to play games in London and Dubai for years. Who was it that 95% of the crowds were? Mainly expat Australians. Says a lot about the success of that venture. Shanghai will be the same this year likely. The game just does not compete for a variety of reasons.

This bid is about Football (soccer), not AFL or NRL. They get the compensation and stadium upgrade benifits after, but in typical AFL style especially, they will keep trying to upstage everyone even during the event.
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but you do not want to do an Athens in 2004 or SA in 2010 and leave to the last minute to gain completion.
You're joking right?
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Old May 19th, 2010, 12:01 PM   #260
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This question goes out to Mo Rush who seems to have an in depth knowledge of the bid process and general organisation for SA2010.

Currently Australia is proposing several oval stadiums as part of their bid. Were Australia to win the bid, what are the chances of those being replaced with other stadiums, whether they be newly built or existing (Etihad), and how would FIFA excert enough pressure for these to be changed?

While Id love these changes to be made, I dont understand how FIFA can make such significant changes.
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