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Old November 3rd, 2010, 02:16 AM   #921
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YES YOU ARE
I CAN'T BE ANY MORE EXPLICIT THAN THAT
You simply haven't bothered to do any further research have you

Do you think I POST FOR THE SAKE OF IT????

All 12 stadiums in the Australasian bid book are FIFA compliant

Australia's final 10 stadiums will be even more impressive than we are pushing here now with more new stadiums than the English and American bids,and this is only the very starting point-its not necessarily where we will end up in 12 years

8 Rectangular
1 Temporary Rectangular
1 Oval-a famous Olympic Cauldron and 1 of the 7 sporting wonders of the world

2 Stadiums with temporary rectangular mode will be dropped after we win hosting rights,should we be so lucky

I suppose the crucial point here is that the bid is totally realistic.It realizes the need to have stadiums that pay for themselves.Yes we are in a far economic better position than than our rivals ,reaching parity with the USD for the first time since the AUD was floated 28 years ago, with Australia's biggest mining and energy boom since the 19th century and incredible investment happening all the time such as the $15 billion LNG project announced yesterday,but our bid throughout has been fully realistic.Its not based on an architects wet dream,it is real.Stadiums that continually get attendances up to 100,000

While everyone else struggles with a massive economic crisis with huge unemployment,we don't and can certainly afford Qatars non existent stadiums but its this very prudent decision making that finds us in the position we are in now
Where the **** are you getting 8 rectangular stadiums from? THERE ARE ONLY SIX!!! Which of the others do you consider rectangular?
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 02:33 AM   #922
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No need to bring the level of the forum down to the lowest common denominator which is your base.
Do your own research-I'm telling you the information is correct and just because you join the forum at the last minute doesn't absolve you from the basic duty of being properly informed if you are to post with folks that are specialists on the matter and have been discussing it at length since the bid was announced.Its exactly the same as the twats that wanted World Cup tickets in the very last month and wanted those that had discussed it at length umpteen times in the previous 15 months to dredge it up again and again.

The information is publicly available -go for it
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 03:13 AM   #923
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That fact that you can't simply tell me which stadiums in the bid you think are rectangular tells me that you don't have a ******* clue what you're talking about.
I'm wasting my time here. Goodbye little boy
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 03:40 AM   #924
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Where the **** are you getting 8 rectangular stadiums from? THERE ARE ONLY SIX!!! Which of the others do you consider rectangular?
They will be re-configured to be rectangular... This means that for the World Cup they will appear to be rectangular and have people sitting closer to the pitch. After the World Cup, they will go back to their oval shape. Our stadiums are designed to be used, not to be left as white-elephants after the WC. We could build 10x 45,000-100,000 seat stadiums, but the likelihood of filling them up (especially in the smaller cities of Geelong, and Townsville) is unlikely. So we propose 40,000-45,000 seat expandable re-configurable stadiums which will have their seating dropped to 25,000-30,000 when the World Cup has been and gone...

I can further break this post down should you still not understand the concept of a re-configurable stadium.
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 03:45 AM   #925
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Is soccer considered a big sport in Australia? I'm sure Australia could easily host a successful WC, but what is the level of support for this with the Australian public?
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Soccer is not big.

Australians enjoy spending their time watching aussie rules football, cricket and kangaroo kick boxing.

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Old November 3rd, 2010, 03:59 AM   #927
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Soccer is not big.

Australians enjoy spending their time watching aussie rules football, cricket and kangaroo kick boxing.
It's not soccer, it's football, clearly you're an american troll who has no idea, get back to your day job of rimming jack warner, Best hope he's clean in at least one way
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 04:02 AM   #928
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Is soccer considered a big sport in Australia? I'm sure Australia could easily host a successful WC, but what is the level of support for this with the Australian public?
Football is the most played sport in Australia. I think this video covers the level of passion and support for Football within Australia.

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Soccer is not big.

Australians enjoy spending their time watching aussie rules football, cricket and kangaroo kick boxing.
**** off racest troll. u ar miickey mouse.
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It's not soccer, it's football, clearly you're an american troll who has no idea, get back to your day job of rimming jack warner, Best hope he's clean in at least one way
Uh, I know it's called football, I was responding to the American who called it soccer. Go back to your mickey mouse sydney f.c vs melbourne victory. . You know nothing.

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**** off racest troll. u ar miickey mouse.
Australia is not a race. I have been with every girl of the rainbow, I'm far from a racist.
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Uh, I know it's called football, I was responding to the American who called it soccer. Go back to your mickey mouse sydney f.c vs melbourne victory. . You know nothing.
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 06:05 AM   #933
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Is soccer considered a big sport in Australia? I'm sure Australia could easily host a successful WC, but what is the level of support for this with the Australian public?
Soccer is a funny one in Australia, probably the 3rd most popular but it has very different challenges than the other 3 of the 2 Rugby's and Aussie Rules. It is enjoyed highly at a recreational pursuit. Our local national league isn't of a great standard, or to be more specific, to a quality that Australians are accoustomed (we are used to the best in Rugby, Rugby League, Cricket and of course Aussie Rules). Millions follow the European leagues, especially the English Premiership and the "Socceroos" have probably overtaken the "Wallabies" of Rugby Union as the nations favorite Football National side. Soccer is probably the 3rd largest Football code in Australia as Rugby Union really just has a niche market in Wealthy areas or Sydney, Brisbane and to a lesser extent Perth (somewhat of a generalisation). Soccer on the other hand is not tied down by regional rivalries in Australia. It transends all the states like Cricket where as Rugby League struggles out side of New South Wales and Queensland and Australian Football only has a niche foothold in those two. When it comes to Internationals the Socceroos break TV records.

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Australia is not a race. I have been with every girl of the rainbow, I'm far from a racist.
You are mickey mouse. I seriously doubt that you have been with every 'girl of the rainbow'. Are you a gynecologist or a rapist?
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How can you judge what sport is on top anyway?

Horse racing attracts larger crowds than any form of football. It's so big that it gets its own public holiday. Everyone gravitates to the nearest TV when the race is on.

Anyway, the Australian domestic league might not be a big player but support for the national team is very high. I remember the 2006 World Cup - it was right in the middle of the exam period for university students and in particular the Brazil - Australia match that kicked off at 6am local time. Exams start at 9:30 and the exam venue was full of scarves from all the people who had gotten up early (or stayed up all night) to watch the game at the local bar or at the live site at Federation Square.

No other sport comes close. Even my girlfriend who usually has no interest in sport whatsoever stayed up every night for the World Cup this year. In a sense, it's a good thing that Australia aren't ranked at the top - everybody adopts a second country to support.
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That fact that you can't simply tell me which stadiums in the bid you think are rectangular tells me that you don't have a ******* clue what you're talking about.
I'm wasting my time here. Goodbye little boy
Here is your screwed up logic
Rectangle Stadiums-

Blacktown
Brisbane
Canberra
Newcastle
Townsville
Sydney Football Stadium

Oval-
Perth Stadium

Olympic Stadium-
ANZ stadium

Firstly...WTF is an Olympic Stadium?..I guess considering Turner Field in Atlanta is an "Olympic Stadium",then by your logic its not classed as a Baseball Field?

ANZ Stadium,FYI,is not configured to hold track and field events and hasnt had the capability since 2000.The current status of the ground wouldnt even allow a athletics track to fit onto the field.
Here is what the proposal for 2022 at ANZ Stadium is:




Sorry...mate...How the hell does that class as an oval stadium?????

And for Perth Stadium?


There is your 8 rectangle fields and if you think both ANZ and Perth are still "oval" and doesnt count,then your an idiot.
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*******************....waiting for......"ummm...yeh...but....the top deck of Perth Stadium is like an oval".........

8 Rectangle
1 Oval (an ultra modern 95,000 seat stadium)
3 Ovals (with temporary seating bring seats closer to the ground)
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 09:12 AM   #938
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In many ways theres big pararels between Australia and the US regarding football, or soccer, and its position in the sporting landscape.

It sits behind other sports, but at around the number 3 or 4 sporting code in the country, it likely has more potential to reach the 1 oer 2 spot than it does in the US, with its mega sporting brands, like NFL, NBA and NHL. The key thing here is that football is very close to cementing a number 3 position very soon in this country, and if a WC was to come here, number 2 would not be far away.

The sports here of interest (in no particular order):

Australian Rules Football
Rugby League
Cricket
Football (soccer)
Rugby Union

A summary of our challenges:

- Australian Rules Football is mainly focused still on its traditional states (Victoria, SA and WA), and is trying hard to get a foothold in NSW and Queensland. It is the giant of sporting codes here, with its economic clout and media saturation in its key markets.
- Rugby League is falling flat in many ways these days. Small crowd averages, but decent TV figures, it is mainly focused on NSW and Queensland, with a presence in Victoria and a desire to move into WA. Its position has been damaged though by scandals and the loss of traction in growing in its key markets and also in Melbourne.
- Cricket is struggling to maintain its position it once had in the minds of the public, masinly due to its own failings and inability to embrace a changing culture in this country (too anglo-saxon, yobo focused). They are trying hard to get back to the glory days, with a big money domestic Twenty20 competition announced, but without changing their strategy to include other parts of the market, it will just keep falling.
- Rugby Union is in many ways considered to be the most niche of the major sports, with a very small demographic coverage. It is focused on the richer population, which makes it strong in corporate backing, but light on for real broad interest. They are trying hard to expand into Melbourne now, with a new team playing in the Super 15, but it is fading in importance in the national sporting landscape.

Overall, Football has its challenges to overcome, but its high participation rate, growing interest and standard of domestic and international teams, gives us a big chance of taking the game to the next level.
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 09:25 AM   #939
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Gotta be happy with qualifications for the following
Mens 2010 WC South Africa
Womens 2011 WC Germany
Under 20 2011 WC Colombia
Under 17 2011 WC Mexico
Under 23 2008 Olympics China

This is a strong sign ,along with high rankings for both Men(21) and Women(11) that we are progressing nicely
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Melb_aviator:

I'm Canadian not American, but thanks for the explanation. Soccer is probably 5th in Canada and behind the big 4 Canadian sports (hockey, football, baseball, and basketball), but the trends in Australia seem to be the same.

Maybe 20-30 years down the road, soccer will reach #3 or #4 in Canada due to immigrants not adopting Canadian sporting traditions, but right now it's just not in the cards. Soccer seems to have less competition from other sports in Australia. I assumed that Aussie Rules, rugby, and cricket had a strangle hold on the sporting culture in Australia, but I guess they don't. That's the price of globalization I guess: nations are losing cultural uniqueness.
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