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Old November 3rd, 2010, 03:09 PM   #961
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Not far off Andreas
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 03:16 PM   #962
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But the question is, where are the concacaf votes going to go once the USA gets knocked out? So far, I only have them done for Blazer, Warner and the British guy (thompson?). I think they would probably all go to Australia, pushing them over the line, instead of Qatar
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 03:19 PM   #963
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Infact, while I remember, I once heard a rumour that all of the french voting block (Temarii, Platini and Anouma) were being organised by Temarii to vote for Australia. But who knows what is going on with that now that Temarii is suspended. I dare say Anouma could go anywhere now
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 03:33 PM   #964
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 04:17 PM   #965
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I know all of the above.

My point was that some are still suggesting the US as a host because it "deserves" it. There is no other 2022 bid country more deserving than Australia.

Sure, the bribes, politics etc. will determine who wins, but no sane person can put forward another country or Doha, as a more deserving host.
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Old November 3rd, 2010, 04:19 PM   #966
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Blatter was elected president of the World Society of Friends of Suspenders, an organisation which tried to stop women replacing suspender belts with pantyhose.[2][3][4]

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Old November 3rd, 2010, 11:59 PM   #967
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I have marked down Cyprus going to Australia, Belgium going to whomever the technical reports recommend. Platini from france could go anywhere, and I think he will also go with the technical reports, or be influenced by Beckenbauer to vote for Australia, or just follow whoever Blatter votes for. (and France only has one vote, not two)

I also have paraguay going to South Korea. The 3 west african votes could go anywhere. They have really been rocked by the corruption scandal and it is hard to say if they are going to stick with deals they have made, or suddenly make an attempt to appear clean.

I also have Russia and Turkey marked down as going to Australia. Egypt is part of the Qatar deal, not Turkey
Cyprus - haven't heard any info on their intent

Belgium - reckon you may be right, that would give them to the US you would imagine

France - I thought Valcke still had a vote as Sec Gen (in addition to Plantini), is this wrong?

Paraguay - I agree, but I assumed Japan/Korea are both the first two out. AU/US/QT all have been desperate to get this guys vote, so all being equal I went for geography in the end.

Africa - Agree, I know AU has been putting a lot of work into the CAF exco members, so they could go anywhere. Last report I heard had them leaning to QT, and I reckon the aid QT can give them may tip the scale.

Turkey - Oops, bad cut and paste You are correct of course, its Egypt who is in the Spain/Qatar 7. I read a few weeks ago somewhere though that apparently the Turkish delegate is supportive of the Qatari bid.

The three big questions that will decide this for me are:

1) Will the Qatari/Spainish block hold? Looks like they will all get off, and with an anonymous vote their move is concealed. I expect all delegates (in light of the focus on corruption) to be heavily pushed to explain their vote afterwards though. Will this scrutiny be enough to smash the block?

2) Where will CAF go? As you mentioned, these guys could go anywhere, and corruption in footy is getting massive press right now with issues ranging from Nigeria to Zimbabwe. Reckon the old rules on how they vote may get thrown out as a result.

3) Who will England bring to the USA party from UEFA? If the above two go Qatar, this move almost decides it.

oh well, just 4 weeks to go now
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Soccer is a funny one in America, probably the 4th most popular but it has very different challenges than the other 3 of the 2 Baseball and Football. It is enjoyed highly at a recreational pursuit. Our local national league isn't of a great standard, or to be more specific, to a quality that Americans are accoustomed (we are used to the best in Baseball, Basketball, Hockey and of course American football). Millions follow the European leagues, especially the English Premiership
I like how similar our sporting cultures are.
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Some folks are going to be amazed with the results of this vote
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Some folks are going to be amazed with the results of this vote
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Old November 4th, 2010, 04:07 AM   #972
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????
Its true,but its not going to be for the benefit of your bias
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Old November 4th, 2010, 04:33 AM   #973
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Some folks are going to be amazed with the results of this vote
It will be a historic moment in world football that's for sure 2 world cups in one day, has never been done before and it's just going to be immense, the pressure on the bidding teams, the nations, the fans, it's just going to an absolutely magical moment for the 2 nations that win their assigned bids.
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and of course for the others it will be a horrendous/catastrophic hammering of national pride just before Christmas (although for one bid that doesn't really matter anyway).
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Old November 4th, 2010, 08:40 AM   #975
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It will be a historic moment in world football that's for sure 2 world cups in one day, has never been done before and it's just going to be immense, the pressure on the bidding teams, the nations, the fans, it's just going to an absolutely magical moment for the 2 nations that win their assigned bids.
Too bad, Blatter disagrees with you. since it was a "mistake" (maybe thats why he crashed that day )
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I think we've got this boys!!!! World Cup Confirmed the Australian GDP to grow at 6% next year....we're ****** laughing boys!!!
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6% Only ? Sources ?
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Old November 4th, 2010, 08:47 AM   #978
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ALso you can't compare Canadian sporting landscapes to Australia. Australia has a mentality of winning while Canada has a mentality of losing!
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Old November 4th, 2010, 08:54 AM   #979
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6% Only ? Sources ?
I don't think you undestand how much more that is.
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ALso you can't compare Canadian sporting landscapes to Australia. Australia has a mentality of winning while Canada has a mentality of losing!
That's a bit harsh. Canada excells at the sports they care about.
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