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Old November 18th, 2010, 12:52 PM   #1261
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what about the trading deal between USA - England to Withdraw England from 2022 and USA from 2018 in favor of some and exchange votes
Huh? No trading deal. By virtue of the double-hosting rules, England was automatically disqualified from 2022 when the USA withdrew from 2018.
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Old November 18th, 2010, 12:54 PM   #1262
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Exactly.
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Old November 18th, 2010, 01:01 PM   #1263
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Old November 18th, 2010, 01:04 PM   #1264
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Forgot to mention, This means:

Qatar loses 1 CAF vote.
Australia loses 1 Oceania vote.

USA is benefiting from this. (Personally like either Qatar or Australia to get 2022, not US)
yep, USA will be smiling with this outcome
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Old November 18th, 2010, 01:34 PM   #1265
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I know FIFA is getting a lot of bad press, but this world cup bid is getting lots of coverage, and I'm sure while some of hating it, FIFA is laughing all the way to the bank.
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Old November 18th, 2010, 01:37 PM   #1266
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Yeah, but that's hardly the point is it? If England lose would I want us to enter another one under the same conditions, hell no.
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Old November 18th, 2010, 01:50 PM   #1267
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Yeah, but that's hardly the point is it? If England lose would I want us to enter another one under the same conditions, hell no.
The 2026 bidders are probably lining up outside Messe Zurich as we speak.
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Old November 18th, 2010, 02:51 PM   #1268
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Sorry if this is plainly obvious but why are Temarii and Adamu suspended and not just fired?
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Old November 18th, 2010, 03:03 PM   #1269
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Sorry if this is plainly obvious but why are Temarii and Adamu suspended and not just fired?
Think a bit. The answer should come easy.
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Old November 18th, 2010, 03:09 PM   #1270
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I'm not entirely sure that replacements-Fred De Jong and Danny Jordaan won't be appointed tomorrow at the extraordinary meeting as ExCo meet primarily to discuss the Qatar bid
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Old November 18th, 2010, 03:24 PM   #1271
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Sorry if this is plainly obvious but why are Temarii and Adamu suspended and not just fired?
What happens is they just move down to the lower tier and then a few years later they get caught up in something else another suspension but as long as you can win the vote in your confederation and comeback you are ok. You only get taken out if you cross Blatter or even one of the other executive committee members or you actual admit mass corruption in FIFA, then you are definitely gone.
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Old November 18th, 2010, 03:30 PM   #1272
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If Blatter likes you, you get away with just about anything. I mean, Jack Warner is still FIFA vice-pres people!
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Old November 18th, 2010, 03:31 PM   #1273
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What happens is they just move down to the lower tier and then a few years later they get caught up in something else another suspension but as long as you can win the vote in your confederation and comeback you are ok. You only get taken out if you cross Blatter or even one of the other executive committee members or you actual admit mass corruption in FIFA, then you are definitely gone.
I didn't really want to just say that if they were fired they would just spill the beans on the rest of FIFA. So it's easier for FIFA to keep them on a long leash.
What a vile cancer it is that runs the worlds favorite sport.
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Old November 18th, 2010, 04:32 PM   #1274
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I didn't really want to just say that if they were fired they would just spill the beans on the rest of FIFA. So it's easier for FIFA to keep them on a long leash. What a vile cancer it is that runs the worlds favorite sport.
Governments are far worse but you don't hear as much about them. A certain one comes to mind extremely clearly, one which basically has lobbyists and businessmen running the whole show and nothing's changed even today. I'm not supporting FIFA and their actions but there are far worse out there than FIFA and people say/do nothing about them.
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Old November 18th, 2010, 04:34 PM   #1275
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FIFA Evaluation report boosts Australia's bid for 2022 FIFA World Cup



The FIFA Evaluation Group has confirmed that Australia’s bid is technically sound, enjoys excellent support and highlights the opportunity to bring the FIFA World Cup™ to Australia and Oceania for the first time.

The Evaluation Group has publically released the executive summary of each of its reports on the nine bidders for the 2018 or 2022 FIFA World Cup™.

Comprehensive reports on each bidder have been prepared by the Group and submitted to the FIFA Executive Committee before the host country selection on 2 December.

Football Federation Australia CEO Ben Buckley welcomed the release of the report that showed Australia’s was judged as one of the best all round bids.

“Our bid has ticked all of the boxes and our full government guarantees mean we really will be a ‘no worries’, friendly and safe option for FIFA and the football fans of the world,” Buckley said.

“We are pleased that the Evaluation Group has confirmed that our bid meets FIFA’s requirements and is well supported by Australian governments and all key stakeholders.

“We think that when FIFA pairs the excellent bid proposal we have prepared with the unparalleled opportunity we offer as a bridge between Asia and Oceania we offer a compelling case for FIFA to take the World Cup to the only continent that has never hosted it.”

Australia’s time zone and geographic location are two of its most compelling strengths in bidding for the FIFA World Cup.

It provides an experienced event delivery partner, a safe pair of hands and a fun, relaxed, safe and secure destination within a region that will be the world’s commercial nucleus in 2022.

Buckley said the massive projected growth in the Asian region would more than offset any reduced revenue from Europe.

“Asia’s middle class is growing rapidly and by 2022 there will be more middle class consumers in Asia than there will be in Europe and North America combined,” Buckley said.

“This will greatly increase the value of television rights in Asia, allowing FIFA the opportunity to more than recoup any potential reduction in income derived from Europe or the Americas.

“Australia offers the opportunity to hold the World Cup in prime time for a region that will be home to three quarters of the world’s population in 2022.

“This represents an unparalleled commercial opportunity for FIFA and its partners to maximise their revenues from the World Cup.”

The unequivocal support the bid enjoys from Australian governments was recognised as core strength, with compliant Government Guarantees and Declaration provided and all necessary support secured.

The report confirms Australia’s considerable experience in hosting major events and recognises the contribution a FIFA World Cup™ in Australia would make towards establishing football as one of the leading sports in Australia and Oceania.

Australia’s transport, safety and security, health and medical and information and communications technology proposals are all endorsed as being of international standard and able to meet all of FIFA’s requirements.

Australian governments have supported the bid from its inception, with the Federal Government providing $45.6 million to fund it, COAG confirming the Country’s united commitment to it and a stadium proposal supported by all Australian governments.

“A lot of confidence has been shown in the report in our experience of putting on large events like the 2000 Sydney Olympic Games and many World Cup competitions for other sports,” Buckley said.

“Our bid has the full support of the hospitality and tourism industries and they have assured us they will have more high quality hotel rooms than will be needed and that has been noted in the report.

“Our aviation experts have briefed FIFA and told them our air transport network is one of the best in the world and will easily handle the necessary capacity.”

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Old November 18th, 2010, 05:42 PM   #1276
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FIFA suspensions hurt Aussie Cup bid

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...18/3070521.htm

Australia looks to have lost a vital vote as it bids to host the 2022 World Cup with soccer's governing body FIFA suspending Oceania chief Reynald Temarii on Thursday.

Temarii was banned for one year and Nigeria's Amos Adamu three years following a probe into alleged misdealings in bidding for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups.

Both men were fined and four other footballing officials were also sanctioned.

Tahiti's Temarii was expected to gift Australia a vote because of his close ties in the region but, like Adamu will now take no part in the December 2 process in Zurich.

"For Reynald Temarii, FIFA vice president, he was prohibited from exercising any activity relative football for one year," and fined 5,000 Swiss francs," Claudio Sulser, president of FIFA's ethics committee, told reporters.

"Amos Adamu ... was prohibited from footballing activities for three years."

FIFA has been trying to salvage the credibility of the selection process for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups after a controversial sting by undercover reporters for a British newspaper raised claims of vote-buying.

Adamou and Temarii had been suspended temporarily last month pending the full investigation by the ethics committee this week, which also covered allegations of collusion between bidders, notably Qatar and Spain-Portugal.

On Thursday, Sulser said there was no evidence to back allegations that Qatar and Spain-Portugal colluded.

England, Russia and joint bids by Spain-Portugal and Netherlands-Belgium are in the running to host the 2018 World Cup while Australia, the United States, Japan, Qatar and South Korea are bidding for 2022.

....... With another report by BBC television on FIFA looming, England 2018 bid chiefs have written to all members of the executive to distance themselves from British media reports, amid fears of a backlash.

-AAP/AFP


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1. Oz bid dented which was already a weak one due to commercial impact.
2. No Collusion btwn Spain/Portugal & Qatar.
Sources: AFP
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Old November 18th, 2010, 11:16 PM   #1277
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Old November 19th, 2010, 12:27 AM   #1278
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Old November 19th, 2010, 12:58 AM   #1279
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I love it how the moronic media outlets see the banning of the executives as a blow to Australia. It doesn't change the dynamic for Australia at all, 13 votes out of 24 or 12 out of 22. It doesn't change anything for Australia. Australia has a fantastic bid, has received the best bid report, even though again various morons in media outlets haven't noticed South Korea's report noting transportation issues and also spacial/infrastructure issues. Australia has the best technical bid report out of all the nations and hasn't hosted before so it should be right up the front in terms of pecking order. It's up to how well the Australian FA has been able to convince FIFA to how much Australia deserves to host the world cup.
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FOOTBALL can become as big as AFL. In fact, if Australia wins the bid to host the 2022 World Cup, football could become bigger than AFL in this country.

There is no sporting event on the planet that comes close to the World Cup and it could be the push that the game really needs to take off to that new level.

I suppose that's why a lot of people in the round ball game are a bit nervous at the moment, waiting for the next two weeks, hoping and praying that this will be the turnaround we need.

Over the past few days, FIFA has come out with a report detailing the positive's and negative's of each countries bid. It all seems quite positive for Australia.

FIFA has highlighted the positives of Australia hosting the World Cup, which include sound security, fantastic stadia and transport infrastructure. The biggest negative highlighted by FIFA was the risk of reduction in European and American TV income. For me I see this as our biggest danger.

Although I'd like to think that with the continued growth in Asia, FIFA would have a vision that the Asian market in 12 years could become the biggest market world wide.

Our two biggest positives are the fact that we could provide a 'carefree' World Cup and the fact that the region of Oceania has never hosted the tournament.

FIFA wouldn't be confronted with any of the problems associated with hosting the tournament in a country such as South Africa or Brazil.

A lot of people out there don't realise how big an opportunity this is for the country to host an event as big as the World Cup.

The opportunity for the country, the exposure the country will get, it's obviously going to have a massive economic impact. As a footballing country we have been slowly gaining respect world wide. Both from successful players plying their trade in leagues overseas, but more so the recent success of the Socceroos has really put us on the map.

Since Frank Lowy has come on board, the game's turned a massive corner. Look back over the last five or six years since we have qualified for the World Cup, the game's been turned on its head.

Children are being turned away from local clubs everywhere because the waiting lists are too long.

There is still a long way to go until the round ball game reaches the levels it should be in this country, both on and off the pitch. But with the right people involved, there is no reason why the game can't reach those heights.

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