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Old February 19th, 2011, 02:21 PM   #101
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Hmm Old Stratford is definitely in Northamptonshire, it's on the otherside of the Great Ouse, probably the ancient country boundary between Bucks at Stony and Northants at Old Stratford. So what would that area become, around Olney? Like the Non-Metropolitan area?

MK is definitely the largest city between London and the Midlands proper, and between Oxford and Cambridge, probably one of the best strategic positions in the region, is probably one of the major reasons for it's economic success. But there is a lot of resentment among the older generation aimed towards Milton Keynes, there certainly is among ppl from Bletchley, which I'm not surprised, it's soul has literally been sucked from it. Its quite sad. But hopefully, as MK continues to grow, Bletchley will receive more investment from the council!
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I live down the road in Aylesbury and am really impressed with how Milton Keynes has developed over the past 25 years or so that I have been visiting it. It used to seem a little soulless tbh but now has a nice vibrant urban feel and many distinctive buildings with new ones seemingly springing up almost every time I visit. Certainly a vast improvement on the other local 'new towns' like Stevenage and Hemel Hempstead imho.

Are there still plans to build a casino next to the Xscape building or has that been shelved for good?
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Old February 20th, 2011, 05:04 AM   #103
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Hey guys, didn't know this thread was here. I'm from Bedford (but live in a village 8 miles away now) so this is pretty local for me.

Impressive developments.
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Old February 20th, 2011, 07:47 PM   #104
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tlr: I'd rather call it Milton Keynes County, but non-metropolitan area works fine! Old Stratford is in Northants but it's also fairly contingent with the MK urban area I feel. I do however realise how annoyed residents would be to hear that! Also, I'd say the MKDC, given the circumstances, did a pretty good job of keeping Bletchley's soul intact. What MK took from it was its commerce; like you say, let's hope for more investment in that area.

Steve: I went to school in Aylesbury and still maintain a frequent presence there. The Xscape development has encountered massive protests from local people and has stalled a bit. It's one of the three sites in competition for the casino license, the others being the stadium and the leisure plaza (the ice rink).

Thanks london-b. It's good to know people are discovering the thread!
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Does MK have a hight restriction?
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Old February 20th, 2011, 09:46 PM   #106
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It used to but it's been lifted now. The Xscape went straight through it, making it a little meaningless, so the Partnership decided to lift it altogether.
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Good, I'd love to see more density in the centre.
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Hi everyone, newbie here! I am hoping to move to Milton Keynes in the future (if I can get a job). I live in Harrow (Greater London) it is so boring here nothing to do, not child friendly. I just love Milton Keynes, all the green spaces, the parks, the lakes, the shopping and the grid road system. I don't understand why some people criticise the place. I'm glad to hear the hub is being developed further, it reminds me of a mini canary wharf!!! Does anyone know if the A421 will be widened to Fen roundabout? Seems a bit silly to leave that section single carriageway.
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Hi, welcome to the forum! Nice to hear that not all London-area people have the wrong idea about MK. Apropos the A421 the main issue there is that it crosses the MK/Bedfordshire border, so it requires a collusion between the two councils. The next stage will be dualling from Fen roundabout to a new roundabout near where the road turns to align with the M1. That'll leave the mile between that and the new bit at Junction 13, which will follow when the EEA starts paying for itself. The dualling is part-funded by the land sales at Magna Park, so when it happens is sort of dependent on the uptake of unit space there. That bit of road has been a death trap since it opened; IMHO it should have been built as a dual carriageway from the outset.
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Old March 6th, 2011, 11:28 PM   #110
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I don't understand why some people criticise the place.
They are usually narrow-minded and mis-informed.

Most people still take the 1980s-style Mike Harding (comedian) 'viewpoint' of it being all caged tower blocks, motorways everywhere and people suffering new-town blues as gospel, whereas it is quite the opposite.
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Thanks for the info. What about the centremk? I know there was plans for expansion, was this put on hold indefinitely? I know they only proceeded with queens ct redevelopment. I think they should definitely expand. With all the other developments in other parts of the country especially westfield stratford, MK should not be left behind.
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Old March 7th, 2011, 11:00 AM   #112
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The Centre:MK was in line for a controversial redevelopment that would have seen the Secklow Gate flyover demolished, parking removed and the appearance of the building completely changed. Now that the building (including the flyover) has been listed this seems pretty impossible now. It's still possible to expand the centre within the listing; principally by extending the shopping units down either side of John Lewis. I personally think MK could do with a bit of outdoor shopping; I'd like to see a small mixed-use development including some larger and some smaller stores on the site east of the Point. Could even have a Greggs or a CeX!
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Old March 8th, 2011, 01:39 PM   #113
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Construction update time! Took advantage of yesterday's weather to do a walk over to the EEA...

Firstly, Network Rail...



Next, a large crane on the project to widen the A5130 between The A509 and the Eastern Expansion Area. This is a bridge being widened to dual carriageway width.


Countess Way, the new 'city street' in the EEA which acts as and should have been an extension of H7 Chaffron Way.


New housing in Broughton Gate. The ditch is the original MK boundary - the new housing beyond it shows how we've gone beyond being a new town. The ditch is also the future route of the Bedford-Milton Keynes Waterway.


New housing at Campbell Heights on the south side of Campbell Park. The plan is to do blocks like this all along both sides of the park to create a New York Central Park style effect.


A view of the Hub on the sunniest day of the year so far...


Lastly, one for the rail enthusiasts! Got a real surprise as I walked over the bridge over the railway...


All in all a pretty enjoyable walk!
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Old March 8th, 2011, 05:52 PM   #114
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The A421 I believe is actually the responsibility of the Highways Agency, so any improvements to the section between the new improved road at J13 and at Fen Roundabout is actually upto them, even though I know that Central Bedfordshire has applied to the Dept. Transport for that section to be upgraded in turn with the new road leading to Bedford from J13. (I doubt it will be approved, especially since the improvements have now been completed, on top of the sweeping cuts being put in place by gov't atm!)
It's a shame really because Milton Keynes has such a poorly developed East-West aligned transport infrastructure, compared to it's North-South (M1, A5, Watling Street, Grand Union Canal and WCML), it would benefit from upgrades of the A421 which would compliment the O2C Arc, helping establish new potential for the region in general!

Anyways fantastic pictures there ^, everything, Milton Keynes in particular, looks so much better in the sun! Are there any new developments concerning the station square redevelopment? When I came home weekend before last there were, what looked to me, like surveyors measuring all sorts around that concrete expanse!
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Yeah construction is expected to commence in April on the £3 million redevelopment scheme which will see private cars, taxis and buses separated onto different sides of the square with only one crossing in place of the current three. The plans I saw a year or two back included a new canopy running out over the bus stops; I don't know if that element is still going ahead or not.
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Old March 8th, 2011, 07:46 PM   #116
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Just seen a piece on BBC Look East about the damaged bridge next to the marketplace in the centre. Taking their time fixing it it seems!
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I was considering going along to the protest about that but I had other things I needed to do! The group I'm in is one of the groups protesting. It's disgraceful why they haven't done it - they were planning an expansion that would have required the removal of the Secklow Gate flyover, which is a critical piece of road infrastructure. They've held off on repairing the bridge in case this controversial development goes ahead... only it never will because the shopping building AND the bridge are now a listed building! The road needs to be repaired and reopened ASAP. If it's not open by June it gets referred to the Secretary of State.
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Also, if they're deliberately delaying the repair of part of a listed building in order to demolish it, that's negligence and the council could find themselves open to a challenge by protest groups
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Yeah that's the risk they're running. As you probably saw on the article the council claims the delay is due to the complexity of the bridge and the extent of the fire damage. But there's been little or no evidence of work of any kind taking place on the bridge. The fire was fairly localised and it should only be a case of replacing the buckled springs. I just think they're unwilling to go through that expenditure when they still might have plans to demolish it. Either way if they can't present proof of work to the Secretary of State come June then they'll be facing sanctions. The best part is it's all insured; it won't even cost them anything to fix it!
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Doesn't look like a very complex bridge to me. I wonder if using the insurance is now not an option given that they've taken ages to decide what to do. Put it this way, the insurance company wouldn't hang onto my car for 9 months whilst I decided whether I wanted it repaired or not. They'd say its getting repaired, or have it back.
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