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Old November 3rd, 2009, 07:23 PM   #1
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Neo-baroque architecture being built today

I find neo baroque styles spectacular, so it is sad to see that so few neo-baroque building are built in this day and age. What is the main reason for this? I find that older styles have far more elegance, class and style than today's buildings, is the cost of building neo-baroque buildings today compared to 100 years ago just that high?
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Old November 3rd, 2009, 10:45 PM   #2
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The name is anachronistic.
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Old November 4th, 2009, 01:09 AM   #3
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It might be anachronistic, but the important thing is the Architectural style. What do you think about the question asked?
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Old November 4th, 2009, 02:51 AM   #4
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Economics and fads.
Baroque is a "backward" style and expensive.
I love Baroque, but Europeans are far more interested it seems in building structures that look like busted razors than actually building nice structures.
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Old November 4th, 2009, 06:07 AM   #5
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I love Baroque, but Europeans are far more interested it seems in building structures that look like busted razors than actually building nice structures.
More classical architecture seems to be built outside of Europe these days. We have had quite a few nice examples in the United States built over the past few years.
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Old November 4th, 2009, 06:18 AM   #6
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I love Baroque, but Europeans are far more interested it seems in building structures that look like busted razors than actually building nice structures.
More classical architecture seems to be built outside of Europe these days. We have had quite a few nice examples in the United States built over the past few years. I do love some baroque but it is not my favorite style. Sometimes the bulging aspects and over ornamentation put me off to some examples of the style.

Here is a new mansion in Russia built in the Baroque style. More Rococo but it is related.
























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What’s “Russian Barocco”? Obviously it’s an architectural style and it has been pretty popular among modern Russian riches.

They build real “palaces” made in a 19th century style. Hundreds of them built across the Russian river coasts.

Meet one of them. Called to be the pearl amongst of its kind. It’s even has a Russian orthodox church building embedded into the house, probably with a “court” priest living there.

It’s pretty hard to understand how they stay sane being in the interiors like this, but probably they got used.

http://englishrussia.com/?p=5254
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Old November 4th, 2009, 02:04 PM   #7
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There are two reasons I suppose.
First it's the architecture of authority, repression and extreme wealth, not of democracy. It's something that fits Russian nouveau riches.

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It's an architectectural style that we appreciate as historical heritage. Building baroque now is simply considered kitch and a sort of lying. Historical heritage speaks to us about our ancestors, the history of a place, about us. In newly built baroque this rich meaning is slimmed down to just being a cheap aesthetic showoff of money.

There is one exception and that's when it's a rebuilding of demolished structures, though even then it's a very much debated topic. In Dresden the bombed baroque city centre is recently rebuild, with the generally approved with and very detailed reconstruction of monuments, and with much more debated new appartment blocks with contemporary copies of the original baroque facades. And in berlin an entire baroque palace will be rebuilt on the museumsinsel, on the place where used to be the Volkspalast of the communistic regime, though a great part the Berlin population would actually have prefered the Volkspalast to be kept and reconverted, as it stands for the model of accepting and adapting history instead of wiping out.
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Wow! Thanks for posting this, Concrete Stereo.
I would have said almost the same, but couldn't find the right words.
Your explanation is perfect to me. Anyway, I don't like Baroque that much...
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There is one exception and that's when it's a rebuilding of demolished structures, though even then it's a very much debated topic. In Dresden the bombed baroque city centre is recently rebuild, with the generally approved with and very detailed reconstruction of monuments, and with much more debated new appartment blocks with contemporary copies of the original baroque facades. And in berlin an entire baroque palace will be rebuilt on the museumsinsel, on the place where used to be the Volkspalast of the communistic regime, though a great part the Berlin population would actually have prefered the Volkspalast to be kept and reconverted, as it stands for the model of accepting and adapting history instead of wiping out.
True. Another excellent example is Castle Howard in the UK, where a fire in 1940 destroyed the Great Hall and many of the state rooms. Contemporary accounts detail how the lead used in the great dome melted and cascaded down in spectacular fashion.

It was rebuilt according to the original design.

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More classical architecture seems to be built outside of Europe these days. We have had quite a few nice examples in the United States built over the past few years.
Stands to reason since the US is an extension of Europe.
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What Concrete Stereo says is true. For example, neo-gothic was used in churchs becauses tries to remember the religiosity of that age; the same that banks used classic architecture with colossal order to express strength and security; or some ludic buildings like casinos or saunas use moorish style to express the exotic, the festive part of the life...
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There are two reasons I suppose.
First it's the architecture of authority, repression and extreme wealth, not of democracy. It's something that fits Russian nouveau riches.


It is architecture the very idea that certain styles belong to an era and should stay that way denies the natural flow and pattern of our aesthetic taste.
We repeat fashions and adapt them to our needs, like classical through European history.
One nation might like a style and they may be a dictatorship, that doesn't mean that style is somehow owned by them or the era they ruled, it simply means they used it.
What if we never reused classical because it was an example of Imperial Rome? Europe and the New World would look nothing like they do now.
Point is, one could also say Modern belongs in the era of post war confusion and should not be constructed today.
It is a matter of aesthetics, and though aesthetics may come from an era, they surely do not belong to it and no man or woman can declare it dead.
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