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***Newcastle Historian*** · November 7th, 2009, 04:06 PM

From the Newcastle Journal this morning, 7th November 2009 . .

Background . . .

Tynemouth Station, now Tynemouth Metro Station, opened in 1882 and is a grand Victorian station, renowned for its extensive and highly decorative iron canopies, by William Bell. It is a Grade II listed building, parts of which are very much still at risk.

Tynemouth Station with its beautiful wrought iron and glass canopy, originating from 1882, and in the early days it was respected and well maintained. It even won several prizes for being the best-kept station on the North Eastern Railway line.

For many years, as well as being a busy station on the Tyne & Wear Metro, the extensive areas of the old Victorian Station are used on Saturdays and Sundays, as a very popular and well attended indoor Antiques and Collectables market . . .

But, to either end of the station, the old Victorian arches are as shown in the first photo at the top of this page. and so there is a lot of work still to do to save those areas of the old station that have not yet been repaired.

Here are the detailed proposals . . .

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...a%3DN%26um%3D1

So . . much to do yet, but a VERY deserving restoration, in my opinion.

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Zim Flyer · November 7th, 2009, 04:10 PM

I hope they do restore it, it's a beautiful canopy. Commercially with it being part of the Metro line, there has to be a use it.

***Newcastle Historian*** · November 7th, 2009, 04:34 PM

Some other PHOTOS . . .

The re-furbished area in the foreground (used for the Antiques Market at the weekend) with the un-repaired areas in the far background . .
image hosted on flickr

Detail at the top of the Roof Columns . .

A similar close-up of an area still at risk . .
image hosted on flickr

AngerOfTheNorth · November 7th, 2009, 07:03 PM

Does anyone have any images of the proposal? The only one on that link doesn't show much (and looks a bit crap)... People should support the restoration of the station, but only if it's going to be done well, without some form of ham-fisted extension that will make the place look awful.

***Newcastle Historian*** · November 7th, 2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AngerOfTheNorth

Does anyone have any images of the proposal? The only one on that link doesn't show much (and looks a bit crap)... People should support the restoration of the station, but only if it's going to be done well, without some form of ham-fisted extension that will make the place look awful.

The only formal one that I have seen, is the one from the LINK above, shown here . . .

I'm not sure I can even make out what that represents!

Essentially (as I have been told it) it is simply a continuation of the restoration of the two ends of the Victorian Station, in the same way that the central part has already been done.

The only 'danger' is that some commercial deals may need to be done which could result in things (shops, or whatever) being built internally within parts of the areas still to be restored, though I have not been told that I am just 'surmising'.

johnnypd · November 7th, 2009, 07:19 PM

i am guessing there's no call for extra platforms so what would the area currently fenced off and derelict serve as?

***Newcastle Historian*** · November 7th, 2009, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnypd

i am guessing there's no call for extra platforms so what would the area currently fenced off and derelict serve as?

There is a paragraph in the Development Proposals (from link in Post 1) that seems to state its "intentions" . . .

Station Re-development

This initiative will restore Tynemouth Station to its Victorian splendour, expand its strong tradition as an arts venue of regional significance, and ensure its future is sustained. The introduction of enhanced community facilities within an urban design of exceptional quality will provide an exciting gateway to our cultural coast.

As its core, the project wishes to see the Grade II building restored, but restored with a purpose. The project will include a new library and community facilities to the north and a new major tenant to the south. The concourse will be opened up to become a major events space for the region and could see enhanced markets, arts events, theatre and exhibitions.

A vibrant programme of arts and cultural events are proposed for the concourse.

How based in realism this is, or whether it is just a 'wish list', I don't know.

hollow man · November 8th, 2009, 01:25 PM

Tis a great station, would hate to see it lost.

BigLebowski · November 8th, 2009, 09:45 PM

I live just up the road from Tynemouth Station and Ylana First has done a great job in preserving it this long...she's also being incredibly balanced in her appraisal of the newest proposal, basically acknowledging that if they dont accept it, the money will never arrive and large areas of the canopy will be pulled down as unsafe. The Tynemouth Residents Arseholes are doing their utmost to get in the way though, bombarding the local press with all sorts of the usual NIMBY scaremongering. (parking, traffic, access, unfair competition, wont somebody think of the children etc etc - all unfounded bollocks as usual)

But i know these people....if its Tesco Extra they'll fight tooth and nail to stop it. If its Waitrose, just watch their concerns disappear!

BigLebowski · November 8th, 2009, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Newcastle Historian

There is a paragraph in the Development Proposals (from link in Post 1) that seems to state its "intentions" . . .

Station Re-development

This initiative will restore Tynemouth Station to its Victorian splendour, expand its strong tradition as an arts venue of regional significance, and ensure its future is sustained. The introduction of enhanced community facilities within an urban design of exceptional quality will provide an exciting gateway to our cultural coast.

As its core, the project wishes to see the Grade II building restored, but restored with a purpose. The project will include a new library and community facilities to the north and a new major tenant to the south. The concourse will be opened up to become a major events space for the region and could see enhanced markets, arts events, theatre and exhibitions.

A vibrant programme of arts and cultural events are proposed for the concourse.

How based in realism this is, or whether it is just a 'wish list', I don't know.

I think its actually quite likely NH, the Station has hosted multiple events in the past, this will just give more scope to do so (as well as extra capacity for the popular twice-weekly market). They even have artists in residence to fill the renovated gallery space on the bridge over the tracks - if anyone doesnt know what i mean i urge you to pay a visit. its easily reached by metro apparently....

AndrewC · November 9th, 2009, 11:41 PM

My sister lives on Hazeldene Court and I've used this station loads of times. It really is a lovely station and in such a sad state. The market is great, I love it when its on when I'm around. It would be great for some new uses for the building to be found so restoration can be completed.

johnnypd · November 16th, 2009, 05:03 PM

Tynemouth Station work gets a cast iron guarantee

Nov 16 2009 by Tony Henderson, The Journal
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Tynemouth Station

RESTORATION plans for a listed Victorian station were boosted today by a £2m cash arrival.

The money will be spent on resurrecting the ornate cast iron canopies at Tynemouth Station – regardless of whether approval is given to a wider scheme for the historic site.

The grant, which will also be used to enhance the station’s exhibition areas, has come from the Government-funded Sea Change programme, which is aimed at revitalising seaside communities.

Next month North Tyneside councillors will decide on a planning application by Station Developments.

The scheme proposes the restoration of the canopies, use for arts, cultural and market programmes, the provision of a library, heritage centre, photographic society, food store, caretaker’s office, public toilets, car parking, public meeting rooms and toilets.

The grade II-star listed station was built in 1882.

A spokesperson for North Tyneside Council said: “We welcome the offer of £2m funding from Sea Change to ensure the canopies of Tynemouth Station can be restored, and the exhibition areas enhanced.

“We will now work closely with Sea Change, Station Developments and English Heritage to take forward the implementation of a scheme to carry out the necessary work.”

Morris Muter, managing director of Station Developments Ltd, said: “We are absolutely delighted with the £2m which has been offered towards the Tynemouth Station project. We will work with the funders and our partners, particularly North Tyneside Council and English Heritage, to determine how the project should move forward and how we can ensure we get best value out of the funding which has been offered.

“We could not have got this far without the tremendous support shown by our partners, and our particular thanks go not only to the council and English Heritage, but to the Friends of the Station who have worked tirelessly alongside us for many years to achieve our mutual goal of completing the restoration of this magnificent structure to its former glory.”

WilfBurnsFan · November 16th, 2009, 06:10 PM

Excellent news.

***Newcastle Historian*** · November 16th, 2009, 07:59 PM

I was starting to worry a little about this, should have known better, great stuff!

It will be FANTASTIC when it's all done!

***Newcastle Historian*** · November 30th, 2009, 02:16 PM

From last month, but still relevant . . Not sure what the very latest position is on this?

Supermarket plan for old station site
09 October 2009, by Athony McLean

COUNCIL planners are considering proposals for a huge new supermarket in Tynemouth as part of a multi-million pound scheme to redevelop the historic railway station.

If the plans are approved the village could see a 1,500 square metre supermarket – bigger than the Netto store in North Shields – built on derelict grassland just south of Tynemouth Station, with 67 parking spaces to help the store compete directly with North Tyneside's Morrisons supermarkets.

Some 25 jobs are expected to be created at the store although it has not yet been confirmed which retailer will occupy the new space. Commuters and motorists will access the supermarket – likely to be open from 6am until 11pm every day – from the A193 Tynemouth Road.

The proposal is part of the £10 million redevelopment plans for the historic station that were announced last month, which will also see the restoration of the canopies, a new library, caretaker's office, new public toilets, public meeting rooms and a tourist information centre. The current library on Front Street will be moved to a new building to the north of the station, along with a new community centre.

The plans, expected to be debated by councillors by December, have been submitted by Station Developments who own Tynemouth Station and run the market.

The company is jointly owned by North Tyneside Council and The Millhouse Group. Both the council and company have made a bid for a £4m grant from the Sea Change initiative, along with a further application to English Heritage to enable the restoration works to go ahead.

The planning application on the new supermarket claims it "would improve the existing shopping provision in the local area which lacks a modern supermarket." But Stephen Bennett, of Park Crescent, said the last thing Tynemouth needed was huge supermarket in the heart of the village. "This is a historic station," she said. "It has been in need of regeneration for a number of years, but it is not right that the regeneration should come at the expense of building a huge supermarket in the centre of the town."

A report on the application adds: "The proposed foodstore would be large enough to compete with the existing Morrisons stores and to claw back some of the leakage out of the catchment area. "It would significantly improve consumer choice and competition in convenience goods shopping in the local area. "The net floorspace is larger than that of the Co-op supermarkets in Tynemouth and Whitley Bay and Netto in North Shields, but it is smaller than the Co-op in North Shields and significantly smaller than Morrisons in the Collingwood Centre and Morrisons in Whitley Bay."

WilfBurnsFan · November 30th, 2009, 02:56 PM

Interesting how developers come up with the notion of 'derelict grassland' when they want to build on existing open space... reminds me of how NUFC and their hirelings on the city council lied and lied about the supposed 'dereliction' of Leazes Park when thay wanted to steal it and destroy it to build their grand new stadium. However, I don't know this patrticular derelict lawn, and a decent s'market would help revitalise the centre of Tynemouth in that locals might shop there.

johnnypd · November 30th, 2009, 03:03 PM

there's two bits of grass either side of the tracks - i am guessing it will be the one to the right, but it's an odd shape for a supermarket.

***Newcastle Historian*** · January 19th, 2010, 12:36 AM

Originally posted by TownPlanningNE on the Tyne & Wear Metro thread, on 18 January 2010 . .

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Originally Posted by TownPlanningNE

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/8466365.stm

Tynemouth Station gets £500K more cash for restoration

A Victorian station on North Tyneside has been given a further cash injection of £500,000.

The grant, from English Heritage, will go towards the restoration of the ornate canopy at Tynemouth Station.

It brings the amount awarded by English Heritage to £1m and comes on top of a recent £2m government Sea Change grant.

Grade II-listed Tynemouth Station opened in 1882 and was once described as one of the finest in the country, but is now on the "at risk" register.

Morris Muter, from the station owner's Station Developments Ltd, said: "This latest grant offer from English Heritage is most welcome and will be instrumental in filling a funding gap.

"I look forward to working with them and the other members of the project team in order to ensure delivery of the restoration and conservation scheme."

Carol Pyrah, from English Heritage, said: "Tynemouth Station is one of the highest priority buildings at risk in the region.

"The large grant we have offered is testament to the significance of the building and the urgency of repairs needed to the extensive iron canopies."

bigchrisfgb · January 19th, 2010, 12:38 AM

Didn't they want about £5m to upgrade it, so another £2m to find.

MrRolandRat · January 19th, 2010, 05:04 PM

Hi All,

Just found this forum and have been following the discussions about the new supermarket proposals for Tynemouth Station in the local rag and decided to do a little exercise to see exactly how big the proposed supermarket will be. The lighter shaded areas are the associated carparks.

image hosted on flickr

I think this diagram makes it quite clear that the 'super' market will be small and unobtrusive and if it's a necessary evil to secure extra funding to save such a worthy building then so be it.

I personally think a supermarket of this size would benefit Tynemouth greatly, as the existing Coop is pretty inadequate.

November 7th, 2009, 04:06 PM	#1
*Newcastle Historian* Moderator and Archivist Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 15,070 Likes (Received): 66	Tynemouth Station Restoration \| Tynemouth \| Various \| U/C From the Newcastle Journal this morning, 7th November 2009 . . Background . . . Tynemouth Station, now Tynemouth Metro Station, opened in 1882 and is a grand Victorian station, renowned for its extensive and highly decorative iron canopies, by William Bell. It is a Grade II listed building, parts of which are very much still at risk. Tynemouth Station with its beautiful wrought iron and glass canopy, originating from 1882, and in the early days it was respected and well maintained. It even won several prizes for being the best-kept station on the North Eastern Railway line. For many years, as well as being a busy station on the Tyne & Wear Metro, the extensive areas of the old Victorian Station are used on Saturdays and Sundays, as a very popular and well attended indoor Antiques and Collectables market . . . But, to either end of the station, the old Victorian arches are as shown in the first photo at the top of this page. and so there is a lot of work still to do to save those areas of the old station that have not yet been repaired. Here are the detailed proposals . . . http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...a%3DN%26um%3D1 So . . much to do yet, but a VERY deserving restoration, in my opinion. . Last edited by Newcastle Historian; November 7th, 2009 at 06:18 PM.

November 7th, 2009, 04:34 PM	#3
*Newcastle Historian* Moderator and Archivist Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 15,070 Likes (Received): 66	Some other PHOTOS . . . The re-furbished area in the foreground (used for the Antiques Market at the weekend) with the un-repaired areas in the far background . . image hosted on flickr Detail at the top of the Roof Columns . . A similar close-up of an area still at risk . . image hosted on flickr Last edited by Newcastle Historian; November 18th, 2009 at 01:33 AM.

November 9th, 2009, 11:41 PM	#11
AndrewC Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Sheffield Posts: 11,903 Likes (Received): 1	My sister lives on Hazeldene Court and I've used this station loads of times. It really is a lovely station and in such a sad state. The market is great, I love it when its on when I'm around. It would be great for some new uses for the building to be found so restoration can be completed. __________________ Any progress on this?

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bigchrisfgb The Legend Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Newcastle Posts: 10,043 Likes (Received): 48	Didn't they want about £5m to upgrade it, so another £2m to find. __________________ The stars are falling into bombs! Newcastle Metro Area

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November 7th, 2009, 04:10 PM	#2
Zim Flyer Rock Lord Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Blackpool Posts: 12,920 Likes (Received): 4	I hope they do restore it, it's a beautiful canopy. Commercially with it being part of the Metro line, there has to be a use it.

November 7th, 2009, 07:03 PM	#4
AngerOfTheNorth Architectural Dogsbody Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne/London Posts: 2,866 Likes (Received): 7	Does anyone have any images of the proposal? The only one on that link doesn't show much (and looks a bit crap)... People should support the restoration of the station, but only if it's going to be done well, without some form of ham-fisted extension that will make the place look awful.

November 7th, 2009, 07:19 PM	#6
johnnypd Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Newcastle/Edinburgh Posts: 6,088 Likes (Received): 8	i am guessing there's no call for extra platforms so what would the area currently fenced off and derelict serve as?

November 8th, 2009, 01:25 PM	#8
hollow man Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Newcastle, England, UK, Europe, Planet Earth Posts: 1,976 Likes (Received): 0	Tis a great station, would hate to see it lost.

November 8th, 2009, 09:45 PM	#9
BigLebowski Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Newcastle Posts: 1,108 Likes (Received): 1	I live just up the road from Tynemouth Station and Ylana First has done a great job in preserving it this long...she's also being incredibly balanced in her appraisal of the newest proposal, basically acknowledging that if they dont accept it, the money will never arrive and large areas of the canopy will be pulled down as unsafe. The Tynemouth Residents Arseholes are doing their utmost to get in the way though, bombarding the local press with all sorts of the usual NIMBY scaremongering. (parking, traffic, access, unfair competition, wont somebody think of the children etc etc - all unfounded bollocks as usual) But i know these people....if its Tesco Extra they'll fight tooth and nail to stop it. If its Waitrose, just watch their concerns disappear!

November 16th, 2009, 05:03 PM	#12
johnnypd Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Newcastle/Edinburgh Posts: 6,088 Likes (Received): 8	Tynemouth Station work gets a cast iron guarantee Nov 16 2009 by Tony Henderson, The Journal Add a comment Recommend * 1 * 2 * next Tynemouth Station RESTORATION plans for a listed Victorian station were boosted today by a £2m cash arrival. The money will be spent on resurrecting the ornate cast iron canopies at Tynemouth Station – regardless of whether approval is given to a wider scheme for the historic site. The grant, which will also be used to enhance the station’s exhibition areas, has come from the Government-funded Sea Change programme, which is aimed at revitalising seaside communities. Next month North Tyneside councillors will decide on a planning application by Station Developments. The scheme proposes the restoration of the canopies, use for arts, cultural and market programmes, the provision of a library, heritage centre, photographic society, food store, caretaker’s office, public toilets, car parking, public meeting rooms and toilets. The grade II-star listed station was built in 1882. A spokesperson for North Tyneside Council said: “We welcome the offer of £2m funding from Sea Change to ensure the canopies of Tynemouth Station can be restored, and the exhibition areas enhanced. “We will now work closely with Sea Change, Station Developments and English Heritage to take forward the implementation of a scheme to carry out the necessary work.” Morris Muter, managing director of Station Developments Ltd, said: “We are absolutely delighted with the £2m which has been offered towards the Tynemouth Station project. We will work with the funders and our partners, particularly North Tyneside Council and English Heritage, to determine how the project should move forward and how we can ensure we get best value out of the funding which has been offered. “We could not have got this far without the tremendous support shown by our partners, and our particular thanks go not only to the council and English Heritage, but to the Friends of the Station who have worked tirelessly alongside us for many years to achieve our mutual goal of completing the restoration of this magnificent structure to its former glory.”

November 16th, 2009, 06:10 PM	#13
WilfBurnsFan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 2,381 Likes (Received): 15	Excellent news.

November 16th, 2009, 07:59 PM	#14
*Newcastle Historian* Moderator and Archivist Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 15,070 Likes (Received): 66	I was starting to worry a little about this, should have known better, great stuff! It will be FANTASTIC when it's all done!

November 30th, 2009, 02:16 PM	#15
*Newcastle Historian* Moderator and Archivist Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 15,070 Likes (Received): 66	From last month, but still relevant . . Not sure what the very latest position is on this? Supermarket plan for old station site 09 October 2009, by Athony McLean COUNCIL planners are considering proposals for a huge new supermarket in Tynemouth as part of a multi-million pound scheme to redevelop the historic railway station. If the plans are approved the village could see a 1,500 square metre supermarket – bigger than the Netto store in North Shields – built on derelict grassland just south of Tynemouth Station, with 67 parking spaces to help the store compete directly with North Tyneside's Morrisons supermarkets. Some 25 jobs are expected to be created at the store although it has not yet been confirmed which retailer will occupy the new space. Commuters and motorists will access the supermarket – likely to be open from 6am until 11pm every day – from the A193 Tynemouth Road. The proposal is part of the £10 million redevelopment plans for the historic station that were announced last month, which will also see the restoration of the canopies, a new library, caretaker's office, new public toilets, public meeting rooms and a tourist information centre. The current library on Front Street will be moved to a new building to the north of the station, along with a new community centre. The plans, expected to be debated by councillors by December, have been submitted by Station Developments who own Tynemouth Station and run the market. The company is jointly owned by North Tyneside Council and The Millhouse Group. Both the council and company have made a bid for a £4m grant from the Sea Change initiative, along with a further application to English Heritage to enable the restoration works to go ahead. The planning application on the new supermarket claims it "would improve the existing shopping provision in the local area which lacks a modern supermarket." But Stephen Bennett, of Park Crescent, said the last thing Tynemouth needed was huge supermarket in the heart of the village. "This is a historic station," she said. "It has been in need of regeneration for a number of years, but it is not right that the regeneration should come at the expense of building a huge supermarket in the centre of the town." A report on the application adds: "The proposed foodstore would be large enough to compete with the existing Morrisons stores and to claw back some of the leakage out of the catchment area. "It would significantly improve consumer choice and competition in convenience goods shopping in the local area. "The net floorspace is larger than that of the Co-op supermarkets in Tynemouth and Whitley Bay and Netto in North Shields, but it is smaller than the Co-op in North Shields and significantly smaller than Morrisons in the Collingwood Centre and Morrisons in Whitley Bay."

November 30th, 2009, 02:56 PM	#16
WilfBurnsFan Registered User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne Posts: 2,381 Likes (Received): 15	Interesting how developers come up with the notion of 'derelict grassland' when they want to build on existing open space... reminds me of how NUFC and their hirelings on the city council lied and lied about the supposed 'dereliction' of Leazes Park when thay wanted to steal it and destroy it to build their grand new stadium. However, I don't know this patrticular derelict lawn, and a decent s'market would help revitalise the centre of Tynemouth in that locals might shop there.

November 30th, 2009, 03:03 PM	#17
johnnypd Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Newcastle/Edinburgh Posts: 6,088 Likes (Received): 8	there's two bits of grass either side of the tracks - i am guessing it will be the one to the right, but it's an odd shape for a supermarket.

January 19th, 2010, 05:04 PM	#20
MrRolandRat Registered User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Cullercoats Posts: 6 Likes (Received): 0	Hi All, Just found this forum and have been following the discussions about the new supermarket proposals for Tynemouth Station in the local rag and decided to do a little exercise to see exactly how big the proposed supermarket will be. The lighter shaded areas are the associated carparks. image hosted on flickr I think this diagram makes it quite clear that the 'super' market will be small and unobtrusive and if it's a necessary evil to secure extra funding to save such a worthy building then so be it. I personally think a supermarket of this size would benefit Tynemouth greatly, as the existing Coop is pretty inadequate.