Ahmedabad Discussions

[Cosmicbliss]

Not that octroi and prohibition can really be compared but I am just giving an example.

[GJ10]

Originally Posted by hashpatel

one major reason why Gujarat lags behind in IT/BPO segment is lack of this:

IT/BPO is an industry dominated by youngsters fresh out of college. They all want to go to a place with a good nightlife (going to manekchowk for pay bhaji @ 2am does not count as nightlife) and pubs/bars (or at least some place to buy & drink legally). Unless companies can attract the best talent here, they will not set up centres in Ahmedabad. Same goes for the foreigners as well (being able to buy booze with permit & drink it at hotel room/home is no subsitute for a pub/bar)

Some time ago, I had read about a proposal to setup a SEZ like place where these restrictions would not apply and you could setup pubs/bars. Don't know what is the status of that project, but it might help.

I know this is a factor that is taken very seriously (in TN threads especially) What i'll say on the matter is that foreigners (inc the same young professional Indians) manage to get by just fine in the Middle East.

Personally, I dont believe in alcohol prohibition for Gujarat, I think its another obsolete Gandhian reference. But at the same time, I dont believe in prohibition of other drugs even in the west. Heavy taxation and letting people suffer the consequences of their own decisions is

That said, if the Govt of Gujarat decided to end alcohol prohibition specifically to attract IT yuppies, I would see it is a very desperate move. If the law is to be overturned, it has to be for the right reasons, not as a cheap ploy.

Will probably offend a chunk of the SSCI junta by saying it, but I think that many in the young generation of richer Indians have a cultural immaturity when it comes to things like alcohol and other things they think are "western" and "modern".

The other side of the argument of course is that Ahmedabad and all Gujarat cities really are much safer for women than other parts of India, with certain IT hubs beings on the exact opposite end of the spectrum.

Obv the general consensus here has to be taken with a pinch of salt, SSCI is close to 100% male, majority will be from that unmarried, 18-25 age group, well off (educated in english) etc etc so understandable that IT is so massively overrated on here.

Have lost count of the number of times that ppl have derailed Gujarat threads because for some reason they believe IT is the only sector that provides real growth. Weirdly such activity always tends to peak during election years, must be a coincidence of course...

[tryindiffdrugsngirls]

Good reason or not booze ban needs to go. Not everyone can be Gandhi and nor we want to. People should have the choice to decide if they want to drink or not. Shouldn't be decided by govt.

[TutConr]

Prohibition in my opinion will only cause much more smuggling and cause people even younger to go into alcohol faster.

[gandhi.rushabh1992]

It's pathetic the way 'young bright educated and cultured Indians' want to work at only those places where there is free flowing booze and indecent pubs (yeah, I know many will disagree, but we all know the ugly side of nightclubs). Is that the only entertainment which suits these highly educated people?

I wholeheartedly support the liquor ban in Gujarat. I know people who want to drink will find a way to drink anyway, but atleast the general public wont be tempted to drink. Whereas in the other case, everyone from kids to elders can walk into a shop and buy liquor. We are a whole lot better off without alcohol in our lives. I dont care if we have IT sector or not, but atleast our cities are safer than anywhere in India.

[tryindiffdrugsngirls]

Originally Posted by gandhi.rushabh1992

It's pathetic the way 'young bright educated and cultured Indians' want to work at only those places where there is free flowing booze and indecent pubs (yeah, I know many will disagree, but we all know the ugly side of nightclubs). Is that the only entertainment which suits these highly educated people?

I wholeheartedly support the liquor ban in Gujarat. I know people who want to drink will find a way to drink anyway, but atleast the general public wont be tempted to drink. Whereas in the other case, everyone from kids to elders can walk into a shop and buy liquor. We are a whole lot better off without alcohol in our lives. I dont care if we have IT sector or not, but atleast our cities are safer than anywhere in India.

Tempted to drink if there are bars? So are you saying no body drinks in Gujarat cuz there are no bars? I don't think so. You are loosing on opportunity to tax the booze sales and many people can get jobs in bars. And really what do you think young people will do on a Friday night? You got a new job you got a new place living away from parents. What would u want to do? Watch aasaram Bapu on asstha tv? Lol I don't want to say nothing else. Hope they don't try to make GIFT a conservative city and give people all the freedom they deserve.

[tryindiffdrugsngirls]

And what do you mean by general public from those who drink? They are not general public? I know how you feel man. They Way we are brought up we are tought drinking is evil. When I first told my parents I got drunk they both cried. But I didn't do anything wrong and it's weird since both my parents smoke. And they considered hanging out with opposite sex as bad too. Now my sister has a boy friend and they dint object to it. All this being conservative needs to go. I know I m way off topic but dude your not 50 years old are you? Do u support arranged marriage?

[virajdoshi]

Poeple can stay social drinkers if they want to. not everybody in IT drinks. people in gujarat do drink illegally.

Being an IT guy, i just wanted my state to progress specially it is progressing in other sectors. I would like to stay in gujarat rather than going to pune or noida for my IT job.

Anyways, guys, don't need to stretch this too much. The thread is for GIFT and i hope when GIFT is ready,IT comes along.

[aks_sky]

Its not the GIFT thread

And stop complaining about drinking you lot. All you guys wish you did this all the time hence you use this emoticon a lot --->

[aks_sky]

How does this sound... It will only work if the plan actually comes into place but i doubt that will come as too many people will create hoo haa on not being able to drive their cars.


Be ready to walk down town...

If the Ahmedabad Municipal Corporation (AMC) has its way, citizens will have to walk down the road in the walled city. The civic body may prohibit entry of three and four-wheelers, including cars, to solve problems related to traffic and parking in walled city areas. The suggestion is part of the proposed parking policy submitted to Jawaharlal Nehru National Urban Renewal Mission (JnNURM) recently by AMC. In addition, AMC has proposed to make public transport effective in the traffic-congested areas.

The civic body is facing a major challenge in managing traffic and parking due to increasing number of vehicles, especially cars. The authorisation of irregular constructions in the city is likely to add to the parking and traffic woes.

In the parking policy submitted to the JnNURM, the civic body has proposed to restrict entry of vehicles larger than three-wheelers including cars on certain roads of the city. The move aims at reducing traffic congestion and parking demand as large vehicles occupy huge space on and off the road. In case large vehicles need to be permitted entry on such roads, they should be allowed only during night for transportation of goods and other purposes.

AMC sources said there is a possibility that three and four-wheelers could be banned on Relief Road, Gandhi Road, Manek Chowk and other congested areas of the walled city. Sources further anticipate that the civic body might have to face protest from the residents and traders in the area; but they add that tough actions are needed to solve traffic and parking problems. "Majority of the commercial and even residential complexes in the old city area will not be able to provide parking space as per the requirement for regularising unauthorised constructions, so such steps are a must," said an AMC official.

The AMC has also proposed to strengthen public transport system on congested roads in the walled city area to encourage people to utilise the public transport system. The civic body has proposed to start feeder route service for better utilisation of public transport system by people. Small vehicles with a seating capacity of 20 to 25 should be used regularly on roads where traffic congestion is high. This will provide efficient transportation facilities for people of the area and reduce the number of vehicles on the road in that area apart from reducing the demand for parking.

Sources said that a feeder route service on Relief Road between Lal Darwaja and Kalupur railway station and Gandhi Road will allow people to park their vehicles at designated parking space outside the area and use public transport.

Source: Dna epaper

[CivilEngineer079]

Our college is organizing a panel discussion on town planning and planners are from AMC and AUDA. So, if any one wants to share his/her idea with them, they can message me or post their message here below I will forward it to them and then give you reply.

Message can be in form of idea or problems with their solution. Ideas should be such that they can easily be accepted in Ahmedabad or any other city.

Thankyou.

[virajdoshi]

I had posted a message for ahmedabad special bus service in this thread.

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...=#post89354046

[aks_sky]

Remember this song

[gandhi.rushabh1992]

It's fantastic, Dhvanit, as usual, rocks!!

[vadodra007]

Originally Posted by hashpatel

one major reason why Gujarat lags behind in IT/BPO segment is lack of this:

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Not that I am defending the so called Gandhian laws (it seems more like the liquor mafia protecting itsnprofits) but have u thought why Germany is not known much for it's IT?

Gujarat has too many industries to worry about a few call centers here and there, even though for women it does offer decent employment opportunity that is somewhat limited in traditional industries.

[kalkibhagwan]

Originally Posted by virajdoshi

Poeple can stay social drinkers if they want to. not everybody in IT drinks. people in gujarat do drink illegally.

Being an IT guy, i just wanted my state to progress specially it is progressing in other sectors. I would like to stay in gujarat rather than going to pune or noida for my IT job.

Anyways, guys, don't need to stretch this too much. The thread is for GIFT and i hope when GIFT is ready,IT comes along.

GO TO BENGALURU, YOU WILL LOTS OF BEWADAS

[gandhi.rushabh1992]

Household Amenities Census 2011 data puts Ahmedabad on the top spot on several sectors like:-

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Housing - majority of Amdavadis live in one and two bedroom houses

Water - 84.7 per cent households in Ahmedabad have tap water facility -- nearly double the national average of 43.5 per cent

Gas - The city has maximum LPG connections -- nearly 64.6 per cent houses use LPG for cooking. This is not only highest in Gujarat but nearly thrice the national average of 28.6 per cent.

Electricity - As compared to the national average of 67.3 per cent, nearly 97.4 per cent houses in Ahmedabad have power connectivity. In fact, 90.4 per cent houses in Gujarat boast of electricity connection, cocking a snook at the national average of 67.3 per cent.

Sanitation - 83 per cent Amdavadi households have toilet while only 61.8 per cent have cellphones. This is in sharp contrast to the national average of 46.9 per cent households with toilets and 53.2 per cent with cellphones.

Mobility - Around 46.3 per cent houses own a two-wheeler and 11.7 per cent a four-wheeler. The figures are not only highest in the state but more than double the national average of 21 per cent in two-wheelers and 4.7 per cent in four-wheelers.

Communication - Almost 77.6 per cent houses in the city own television sets and 8.5 per cent own computers with internet connectivity.

[murlee]

I like that pic above! Looks cool in the nights..

Is that the premium CBD of Ahmedabad??

[tryindiffdrugsngirls]

Can u post such stats about other cities too SVP?

[gandhi.rushabh1992]

@murlee

Not exactly a CBD, but a shopping destination.