What does Tampa need? - Page 4

tampasteve · December 3rd, 2009, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DShenise

(because they are young and want sweaty sex with tan people who only eat celery).

Man, that cracks me up!

Stev

randommichael · December 3rd, 2009, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tampasteve

Man, that cracks me up!

Stev

Yeah, I loved that part...the only problem is, isn't Miami one of the most obese cities out there???

TampaMike · January 3rd, 2010, 06:52 AM

Just a up in the air question here. How much do you guys think TBPAC would be willing to partially fund a pedestrian bridge connecting to expanded Riverwalk to Julian B. Lane Riverfront Park? If the city could fund some money and get some state or federal fund to fund the rest.

I was actually going to suggest University of Tampa, but don't know if they would fund a bridge off of their campus, even if it did have their name on it. TBPAC would seem like a better suggestion since it would be right next to their place.

A monumental pedestrian bridge isn't a needed thing for every city, but something many admire. I did a little research and found some info on pedestrian bridges. the Bob Kerrey Pedestrian Bridge that connects Omaha to Council Bluffs cost $22 million to construct. The reason for the name, the former Senator Bob Kerrey secured federal funding for the bridge. How much? $18 million. If the city is able to secure $4 million, TBPAC puts up a $3 million donation, and we recieve the same amount of funding that the Bob kerrey bridge recieved; we could be able to fund a top-notch bridge like the Bob Kerrey one.

jonknee · January 3rd, 2010, 07:38 PM

Why bother? The Laurel St bridge already does that and has wide pedestrian areas on both sides.

FlaNatv · January 5th, 2010, 03:25 AM

i like the idea of signature pedestrian bridge ....however the only useful direction would probably be from curtis hixon park to UT and connect to a West Bank riverwalk

TampaMike · January 5th, 2010, 06:54 AM

I was thinking about that exact thought, but wondered if it would be a security issue to have a connection on to the campus. I know you can get on the grounds by Kennedy easily, but a bridge to the campus directly would seem inviting for anyone to walk on the campus. If the university is able to handle it and if it is possibility, then do it. I just don't see it working with such security risks that could be found in it.

Once Curtis Hixon is completed, I would like to see Tampa start up a annual music festival of some sort at the park. Get some big names while having some local bands play as well. Many cities have a music festival and Tampa could be a nice location for a Fall music festival in front of MofA and Glazer's Children Museum.

Jahi98 · January 5th, 2010, 09:29 PM

^Like the music festival idea. I love NYC's Summer Stages series in Central Park. There's always some big names, a variety of types of shows (music concerts, dance, poetry), and it was FREE -- well, they requested a donation at entrance, but there was no set price. Would be cool to see something like that, on a smaller scale, throughout September and/or October in Tampa.

TampaMike · January 5th, 2010, 11:20 PM

They could even do it where they have more family-oriented music and activities during the day and then move it to more PG-13 and R material later in the evening to advertise to many of the population. UT also has their band and could put out some stuff at the festival. And we could have restaurants like Five Guys and others to set up booths like they have at some festivals to serve food and beverages. And then have alcohol served at 5 pm after most of the kids are out of the place.

csg99 · January 10th, 2010, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by FlaNatv

Future Tampa Skyline?
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How long would this take for Tampa? 50 years?

What city is this?

csg99 · January 10th, 2010, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by desertpunk

Tampa needs gargantuan shopping malls. Tampa needs hundreds of skyscrapers and supertalls all being built at once. Tampa needs palm shaped islands filled with multimillion-dollar villas. Tampa needs indoor skiing. Tampa needs...Dubai.

They need to strike oil in the bay or the Gulf of Mexico for that to happen.

TampaMike · January 10th, 2010, 04:35 AM

Hopefully the state does allow for off-shore drilling in Florida. Here in my county, Pasco County, I have proposed off-shore drilling off our shore. We don't really have any beaches and what beaches do exist lack major time compared to Clearwater, Ft. Desoto, and even Howard Park in Tarpon Springs. Off-shore drilling would bring much needed money in to this county if allowed. And the thing is, oil is going to be needed for a long time for now. So even if it is regulated and such, it's still going to be used by drivers, homeowners, and companies. So to say we don't need it because we're switching to green energy is a defeated argument.

FlaNatv · January 10th, 2010, 05:37 AM

The Skyline Shot is of Melbourne, Australia. It has some similarities with Tampa (things Tampa could possibly learn from). ie: Small downtown river(great riverwalk scene), bayfront, port district ( cool redevelopment happening there)....It has a similar population however, it's a much more important city to it's State than Tampa is to Florida. Plus Tampa has a competing skyline in the bay area to deal with...Anyway, Melbourne is a cool looking city with lots of rail transit and great architecture...

FlaNatv · January 10th, 2010, 05:39 AM

BTW, drilling off the coast of Florida would be a major mistake....and this is coming from a Republican!

csg99 · January 10th, 2010, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JBrisco

When Tampa becomes part of China. Haha I don't think Tampa will get that big anytime soon. I really doubt it'll ever look like that

I think something like this is quite possible for Tampa in under 50 years. Look at how fast Atlantas skyline shot up. (referring to the picture of Melbourne above)

TampaMike · January 10th, 2010, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FlaNatv

BTW, drilling off the coast of Florida would be a major mistake....and this is coming from a Republican!

Don't mean to hijack the thread, even though its mine lol, but can you explain why? From what I have read, the pros outweight the cons on the issue. But I'm always open to learning more.

Do I think Tampa could become a Melbourne? It's always a possibility. But at the same time, Tampa will need to do a lot to reach to such a level. I'm talking about atleast 2 corporate headquarters, lots of private funding, serious improvement on all our transportation, and a lot of investment on pretty much everything in Tampa, espicially our port. Melbourne has done a great job of keeping the port so close to the city, but at the same time it is far enough to not interfere in growth. And Melbourne has also benefited with many large sporting events, including the 1956 Summer Olympics.

I must say, Melbourne has done a great job on developing many parks and green spaces. Their whole riverfront is filled with parks and golf courses. It would be like filling up the whole riverfront from University of Tampa to the Sulphur Springs Water Tower with parks.

FlaNatv · January 10th, 2010, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TampaMike

I must say, Melbourne has done a great job on developing many parks and green spaces. Their whole riverfront is filled with parks and golf courses. It would be like filling up the whole riverfront from University of Tampa to the Sulphur Springs Water Tower with parks.

That would be awesome to have a "safe" trail from Downtown to Sulpher Springs (hopefully, future home to a botanical garden and major redevelopent). When the trail hits private residential waterfront it could perhaps bridge over to the other side...

FlaNatv · January 10th, 2010, 05:25 PM

Something else cool about Melbourne is that many of the alleys are pedestrian corridors filled with cafes and small shops...

gstolze · January 10th, 2010, 06:24 PM

Melbourne has 4 Million inhabitants with a lot of condos and established shopping and culture downtown. A city like that can pull off much more development and also can achieve the critical mass when it comes to attracting customers to newly developed areas.

Tampa needs to focus more on developing downtown than it did in the past. A lot has been achieved compared to 15 years ago, but there is still a long way to go.

In my opinion, Tampa needs light rail, an intermodal transportation center, a symphony hall downtown, more condos, more shopping, and, incorporated into the developments should be several reconstructions of historic buildings (e.g. court house) to create something like a gas light district between city hall and the old post office.

TampaMike · January 10th, 2010, 10:21 PM

Edinburgh had the same thing with alleys being turned into pedestrian corridors. Most of the bars and Pubs were in there while the more family-oriented places were along the main streets.

Dean · January 10th, 2010, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by FlaNatv

Something else cool about Melbourne is that many of the alleys are pedestrian corridors filled with cafes and small shops...

Centre Place - Melbourne CBD
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January 3rd, 2010, 06:52 AM	#63
TampaMike Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 6,141 Likes (Received): 5	Just a up in the air question here. How much do you guys think TBPAC would be willing to partially fund a pedestrian bridge connecting to expanded Riverwalk to Julian B. Lane Riverfront Park? If the city could fund some money and get some state or federal fund to fund the rest. I was actually going to suggest University of Tampa, but don't know if they would fund a bridge off of their campus, even if it did have their name on it. TBPAC would seem like a better suggestion since it would be right next to their place. A monumental pedestrian bridge isn't a needed thing for every city, but something many admire. I did a little research and found some info on pedestrian bridges. the Bob Kerrey Pedestrian Bridge that connects Omaha to Council Bluffs cost $22 million to construct. The reason for the name, the former Senator Bob Kerrey secured federal funding for the bridge. How much? $18 million. If the city is able to secure $4 million, TBPAC puts up a $3 million donation, and we recieve the same amount of funding that the Bob kerrey bridge recieved; we could be able to fund a top-notch bridge like the Bob Kerrey one. __________________ Corporations Are People Too - Mitt Romney For the People that dress up like Corporations.

January 3rd, 2010, 07:38 PM	#64
jonknee Downtown resident Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tampa Posts: 2,285 Likes (Received): 0	Why bother? The Laurel St bridge already does that and has wide pedestrian areas on both sides. __________________ What I've been up to in the kitchen

January 5th, 2010, 03:25 AM	#65
FlaNatv Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Orlando then Tampa Posts: 544 Likes (Received): 0	i like the idea of signature pedestrian bridge ....however the only useful direction would probably be from curtis hixon park to UT and connect to a West Bank riverwalk __________________ Consider it irresponsible to not seek Truth

January 5th, 2010, 06:54 AM	#66
TampaMike Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 6,141 Likes (Received): 5	I was thinking about that exact thought, but wondered if it would be a security issue to have a connection on to the campus. I know you can get on the grounds by Kennedy easily, but a bridge to the campus directly would seem inviting for anyone to walk on the campus. If the university is able to handle it and if it is possibility, then do it. I just don't see it working with such security risks that could be found in it. Once Curtis Hixon is completed, I would like to see Tampa start up a annual music festival of some sort at the park. Get some big names while having some local bands play as well. Many cities have a music festival and Tampa could be a nice location for a Fall music festival in front of MofA and Glazer's Children Museum. __________________ Corporations Are People Too - Mitt Romney For the People that dress up like Corporations.

January 5th, 2010, 09:29 PM	#67
Jahi98 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: St. Petersburg, FL Posts: 807 Likes (Received): 0	^Like the music festival idea. I love NYC's Summer Stages series in Central Park. There's always some big names, a variety of types of shows (music concerts, dance, poetry), and it was FREE -- well, they requested a donation at entrance, but there was no set price. Would be cool to see something like that, on a smaller scale, throughout September and/or October in Tampa. __________________ I bleed Orange and Green! The Urban Advisor

January 5th, 2010, 11:20 PM	#68
TampaMike Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 6,141 Likes (Received): 5	They could even do it where they have more family-oriented music and activities during the day and then move it to more PG-13 and R material later in the evening to advertise to many of the population. UT also has their band and could put out some stuff at the festival. And we could have restaurants like Five Guys and others to set up booths like they have at some festivals to serve food and beverages. And then have alcohol served at 5 pm after most of the kids are out of the place. __________________ Corporations Are People Too - Mitt Romney For the People that dress up like Corporations.

January 10th, 2010, 04:35 AM	#71
TampaMike Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 6,141 Likes (Received): 5	Hopefully the state does allow for off-shore drilling in Florida. Here in my county, Pasco County, I have proposed off-shore drilling off our shore. We don't really have any beaches and what beaches do exist lack major time compared to Clearwater, Ft. Desoto, and even Howard Park in Tarpon Springs. Off-shore drilling would bring much needed money in to this county if allowed. And the thing is, oil is going to be needed for a long time for now. So even if it is regulated and such, it's still going to be used by drivers, homeowners, and companies. So to say we don't need it because we're switching to green energy is a defeated argument. __________________ Corporations Are People Too - Mitt Romney For the People that dress up like Corporations.

January 10th, 2010, 05:37 AM	#72
FlaNatv Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Orlando then Tampa Posts: 544 Likes (Received): 0	The Skyline Shot is of Melbourne, Australia. It has some similarities with Tampa (things Tampa could possibly learn from). ie: Small downtown river(great riverwalk scene), bayfront, port district ( cool redevelopment happening there)....It has a similar population however, it's a much more important city to it's State than Tampa is to Florida. Plus Tampa has a competing skyline in the bay area to deal with...Anyway, Melbourne is a cool looking city with lots of rail transit and great architecture... __________________ Consider it irresponsible to not seek Truth

January 10th, 2010, 05:39 AM	#73
FlaNatv Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Orlando then Tampa Posts: 544 Likes (Received): 0	BTW, drilling off the coast of Florida would be a major mistake....and this is coming from a Republican! __________________ Consider it irresponsible to not seek Truth

January 10th, 2010, 05:25 PM	#77
FlaNatv Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Orlando then Tampa Posts: 544 Likes (Received): 0	Something else cool about Melbourne is that many of the alleys are pedestrian corridors filled with cafes and small shops... __________________ Consider it irresponsible to not seek Truth

January 10th, 2010, 06:24 PM	#78
gstolze Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hannover, Germany>Tampa Bay, Florida, USA>Hannover, Germany Posts: 1,373 Likes (Received): 6	Melbourne has 4 Million inhabitants with a lot of condos and established shopping and culture downtown. A city like that can pull off much more development and also can achieve the critical mass when it comes to attracting customers to newly developed areas. Tampa needs to focus more on developing downtown than it did in the past. A lot has been achieved compared to 15 years ago, but there is still a long way to go. In my opinion, Tampa needs light rail, an intermodal transportation center, a symphony hall downtown, more condos, more shopping, and, incorporated into the developments should be several reconstructions of historic buildings (e.g. court house) to create something like a gas light district between city hall and the old post office.

January 10th, 2010, 10:21 PM	#79
TampaMike Moderator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 6,141 Likes (Received): 5	Edinburgh had the same thing with alleys being turned into pedestrian corridors. Most of the bars and Pubs were in there while the more family-oriented places were along the main streets. __________________ Corporations Are People Too - Mitt Romney For the People that dress up like Corporations.

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