What does Tampa need?

[gstolze]

Originally Posted by FlaNatv

I mainly think it's a shame that the cruise terminals block access to the waterfront because security precautions, etc.

Well, what do you think of the area at the north end of the Ybor channel....a lot of "ifs" but if they were to build the Rays stadium near Ybor would it not be a prime waterfront area for some commercial development? Somekind of Boardwalk with shops, entertainment, blah, blah, blah

I think that's where they should have put the Tampa Convention Center with a marina, hotels, parking etc.

The place where the Center is now should have been developend like Bayside Marketplace in Miami with a riverwalk, marina, shops and condos around it.

[TampaGuy]

Originally Posted by gstolze

I think that's where they should have put the Tampa Convention Center with a marina, hotels, parking etc.

The place where the Center is now should have been developend like Bayside Marketplace in Miami with a riverwalk, marina, shops and condos around it.

I think tampa needs more cruise ships. Does anyone know if there are any plans to add more?

[Jasonhouse]

^There probably will be after HSR is built.

[tampasteve]

I could see more coming, but they will not be any larger than the ones there now. I believe they cannot get bigger because of the Skyway bridge. With that said, there is a huge market for the mid-size ships. If/when Cuba opens up I believe we will see more traffic with the cruise ships going that route.

Steve

[TampaMike]

Didn't Disney have a plan a couple years back to bring one of their cruise ships to the Port?

[tampasteve]

I think I remember hearing something about that. I believe it was because they were adding ships through 2012. I suppose it is still a possibility as more ships come online.

Steve

[TampaMike]

Originally Posted by tampasteve

I think I remember hearing something about that. I believe it was because they were adding ships through 2012. I suppose it is still a possibility as more ships come online.

Steve

Hopefully we can get another cruise ship for Tampa. Either Disney or Carnival. I would expect Carnival would be the one to go for the Cuba stop since Disney is more "for the kids" and I really can't see them jumping on a Cuba destination as fast as Carnival would. I wouldn't expect a new ship from Carnival since their CEO said they wouldn't order any new ships until the economic conditions improve. We could also try to lure some different cruise companies in to the port as well.

[TampaMike]

Pam Iorio was on Fox News 13 this morning and started talking about the area around where the HSR Station will go and how it was really the only last area in our downtown that hasn't seen much development. So my question (I like starting up conversations if you haven't realized) is what would you like to see in that area?

[Jasonhouse]

^The BofA project to be re-planned as a TOD for HSR with about triple the build-out density the plan presently has.

Oh, and I want Tampa's leaders to be up there in Tallahassee pushing HARD for state Legislators to authorize a casino resort for Tampa, if it turns out that the deal is favorable for the state's taxpayers... And then I want them to build the casino somewhere on Ybor Channel.

[TampaMike]

Originally Posted by Jasonhouse

^The BofA project to be re-planned as a TOD for HSR with about triple the build-out density the plan presently has.

Oh, and I want Tampa's leaders to be up there in Tallahassee pushing HARD for state Legislators to authorize a casino resort for Tampa, if it turns out that the deal if favorable for the state's taxpayers... And then I want them to build the casino somewhere on Ybor Channel.

I think we're pretty much on the same page on many things currently. The Encore definitely needs to replanned to include taller projects and actually connects to the city instead of the opposite. It has no retail along the main streets, you mentioned the park and how it acts as a border between the city and Encore instead of being a centerpiece, and the parking lot we've all pretty agreed sucks.

I actually talked about the casino being in north Channelside on the Ybor Channel when I contacted the development director or whomever it was about the W Hotel site a while back. Pretty much he had a little knowledge of what was going on which scares me. It may do something if we had at least 5 of us contact the mayor's office about this. If we bug her office about it they might relay the message back to her. And if there was another thing she wanted to leave with a positive note, having the knowledge that Sands Casino will build a $3 billion casino and Resort in Tampa would help out majorly.

[lamsalfl]

Where would a Rays stadium go in downtown Tampa?
What is going on with that land west of Merdian Ave, east of 618, and just north of the Forum?

[tampasteve]

There are a couple of locations in discussion. You can find the main talk about that project here:http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...545346&page=27

Steve

[Jasonhouse]

Originally Posted by lamsalfl

Where would a Rays stadium go in downtown Tampa?
What is going on with that land west of Merdian Ave, east of 618, and just north of the Forum?

Not a snowball's chance in hell... The FAA will never approve a stadium being built there, because it's DIRECTLY in the flight path for aircraft going to/from POK... That's why the 'Tampa Needle' project on the same site got all screwed up and eventually killed.

The only good site in DT Tampa is where I mentioned over a year ago... Somewhere within the Central Park CRA, between the downtown core and Ybor City.

[lamsalfl]

Originally Posted by Jasonhouse

Not a snowball's chance in hell... The FAA will never approve a stadium being built there, because it's DIRECTLY in the flight path for aircraft going to/from POK... That's why the 'Tampa Needle' project on the same site got all screwed up and eventually killed.

The only good site in DT Tampa is where I mentioned over a year ago... Somewhere within the Central Park CRA, between the downtown core and Ybor City.

It's my fault, but my two questions were completely separate thoughts. I was just wondering what all that cleared land on aerials (bing.com/maps has the best birds eye views) was for. The stadium question was separate.

[tampasteve]

Originally Posted by lamsalfl

It's my fault, but my two questions were completely separate thoughts. I was just wondering what all that cleared land on aerials (bing.com/maps has the best birds eye views) was for. The stadium question was separate.

Part of that land was supposed to be Prime Meridian, and office building. It still may be some day...but that site has been quiet for a while.

The website for the project is offline now, so that is not good news. Here is a link to the thread that was talking about it though:http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=501943
and a link to the TBO article with rendering:http://www2.tbo.com/content/2007/dec...ses-standards/

Steve

[Jasonhouse]

^I had heard CBRE killed that office project for a lack of demand.

[TampaMike]

Wouldn't be surprised if it is cancelled, but CBRE has it still listed and was last revised 5 days ago, so who knows. Maybe a quick email can verify where the project stands.

http://www.loopnet.com/xNet/Looplink...SRID=853493652

If it is cancelled, just another plot of land vacant in a area that shouldn't.

[TampaMike]

Originally Posted by TampaMike

Wouldn't be surprised if it is cancelled, but CBRE has it still listed and was last revised 5 days ago, so who knows. Maybe a quick email can verify where the project stands.

http://www.loopnet.com/xNet/Looplink...SRID=853493652

If it is cancelled, just another plot of land vacant in a area that shouldn't.

I contacted Prime Meridian and got a vague email back. The rep. only said that they have yet broke ground on the project (no, really? lol) and then asked if I was interesting in leasing. Should I lie to retrieve more info? lmao.

[Jasonhouse]

^no.

[TampaMike]

Originally Posted by Jasonhouse

^no.

Only kidding lol