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[jarden]

Originally Posted by michael_n_

Still annoyed but over Air China. Claim, and only claim from a agent friend is that they 'remain' committed to the route as the loads were fine for 4 flights. I am not talking the 787 issue I mean according to one site they cease at the end of March. Then again it is Wik.

They are coming back soon but not with 787s:

Air China W18 International changes as of 15OCT18


Beijing – Brisbane eff 18JAN19 Service resumption (since August 2018), 4 weekly A330-200 (3 weekly from 06MAR19)

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...as-of-15oct18/

[VH-OEJ]

Interesting article in the Courier Mail yesterday regarding QR:

Source - Courier Mail

Qatar deal shot down as ex-Qantas chief joins Transport Minister

A FEDERAL decision to give Queensland farmers a multimillion-dollar export deal and Brisbane passengers cheaper international flights was overidden after intense lobbying from Qantas.

The decision by Deputy Prime Minister and Transport Minister Michael McCormack to accede to Qantas’ concerns about competitor Qatar Airways has shocked some of his own staff, including some who have resigned or returned to the public service.

The lucrative freight and passenger deal for Qatar Airways and Brisbane Airport Corporation was given the go-ahead by Mr McCormack’s predecessor as transport minister, Darren Chester, in 2017.

But Mr McCormack has put the deal on ice.

Continues...

[KJBrissy]

Qatar knows that McCormack is unlikely to be transport minister for long and that they'll have another shot shortly.

[EnolaGray]

Certainly weighted toward Qatar airlines that article, doesn’t really mention the restrictions that Qatar place on their own airspace, open skies agreements work both ways and Qatar is one of the more restricted developed countries in the world. They want access into other countries but don’t reciprocate the same rights to others.

There is a reason they have limited access and it’s not because a former Qantas member is on staff.

[michael_n_]

Originally Posted by jarden

They are coming back soon but not with 787s:

Air China W18 International changes as of 15OCT18


Beijing – Brisbane eff 18JAN19 Service resumption (since August 2018), 4 weekly A330-200 (3 weekly from 06MAR19)

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...as-of-15oct18/

Jarden my apologies their was an article that they were pulling out of Brisbane. The issue of course was too Wikipedia stated it was stopping but obviously not. Good to hear.

[michael_n_]

Originally Posted by EnolaGray

Certainly weighted toward Qatar airlines that article, doesn’t really mention the restrictions that Qatar place on their own airspace, open skies agreements work both ways and Qatar is one of the more restricted developed countries in the world. They want access into other countries but don’t reciprocate the same rights to others.

There is a reason they have limited access and it’s not because a former Qantas member is on staff.

Enola I 100% agree with you BUT...


The tourism and export potential is being ruined by an idiot deputy who won't talk about it. He is in Melbourne and he's making a decision for Brisbane and it's wrong. Yes queue the outrage but remember, the Melbourne trolls post various oh it's unfair we don't get this carrier for months now and how many have they gotten??


I don't doubt that long term unless they went bankrupt, doubtful, that they will fly here. But for decades, as the late David Jull uncovered in 1987 and I have that article, Qantas guards Brisbane and the rest of Queensland but gives Sydney and Melbourne everything. The population arguement does not work because many carriers started flying into Brisbane 30 years ago when the PAX were lower. But now the PAX are up and yet they fly to Canberra and Adelaide?



Not acceptable sorry if it sounds like outrage but I'm not the only one in the world or in the Queensland tourism industry who thinks this way. It's disgusting and a pox on them. Yes Doha is awful but as an airline and probably only use Doha to go onto England or France, but...we won't stop until it lands here. If that offends other forum members well

[EnolaGray]

It’s not about offending forumers... it’s about open skies agreements being reciprocal, Qatar has similar disagreements with Europe and the US, there’s also geo-political issues to consider with Emirates and Etihad being state airlines of the UAE who are currently in conflict with Qatar, UAE have allowed greater access to Australian carriers based on the same reciprocal agreements that Qatar are denying. It sets a dangerous precedence and would be offensive to larger trading partners in the region to allow greater freedom to Qatar when more was demanded of them.

[Oskar Clare]

Originally Posted by michael_n_

Jarden my apologies their was an article that they were pulling out of Brisbane. The issue of course was too Wikipedia stated it was stopping but obviously not. Good to hear.

Sorry mate but reservation has closed after 29 MAR 19 so atm CA is not coming back after 29 MAR

[tourismman]

Originally Posted by michael_n_

Enola I 100% agree with you BUT...


The tourism and export potential is being ruined by an idiot deputy who won't talk about it. He is in Melbourne and he's making a decision for Brisbane and it's wrong. Yes queue the outrage but remember, the Melbourne trolls post various oh it's unfair we don't get this carrier for months now and how many have they gotten??


I don't doubt that long term unless they went bankrupt, doubtful, that they will fly here. But for decades, as the late David Jull uncovered in 1987 and I have that article, Qantas guards Brisbane and the rest of Queensland but gives Sydney and Melbourne everything. The population arguement does not work because many carriers started flying into Brisbane 30 years ago when the PAX were lower. But now the PAX are up and yet they fly to Canberra and Adelaide?



Not acceptable sorry if it sounds like outrage but I'm not the only one in the world or in the Queensland tourism industry who thinks this way. It's disgusting and a pox on them. Yes Doha is awful but as an airline and probably only use Doha to go onto England or France, but...we won't stop until it lands here. If that offends other forum members well

I agree with most what you say Michael and i go back longer than you.I won't say anymore as this has been happening for over 40 years.

[tourismman]

Originally Posted by Oskar Clare

Sorry mate but reservation has closed after 29 MAR 19 so atm CA is not coming back after 29 MAR

I am also hearing the flights may be seasonal and return NW 19.

[michael_n_]

Yes Oscar and TM are correct. CA have however stated they are interested in return.

[Oskar Clare]

As NW18/19 is just about here, here's a list of what is about to start:

28 OCT:

Timing changes to EK432/433 EK430/431. EK432 arrive 1940, EK433 depart 0230 (using EK430 77W). EK430 arrive 2245, EK431 depart 2225 (using EK432 77W)

Air New Zealand adding more CHC flights. NZ807/806 start, 4-6x weekly

Korean Air replace A333 with B789, increase to 5x weekly

Thai decreasing to 4x weekly. B772/77W replace B788

3 NOV:

Solomon Airlines add BNE-MUA, IE715

12 NOV:

Qantas replace 744 to 789 on QF55/56, BNE-LAX

13 NOV:

Samoa Airways start APW-BNE, 2x weekly, OL843/844, B738

18 NOV:

Air New Zealand add A321neo on AKL-BNE. NZ739/734 and NZ733/732, alternate days

1 DEC:

EVA air change A332 to A333 on TPE-BNE

Korean Air increase to daily until late March

China Airlines change A359 to 77W until 28 FEB 19, CI53/54

4 DEC:

Air Calin add 3rd weekly flight on NOU-BNE

6 DEC:

Air New Zealand add more AKL-BNE flights. NZ733/732 increase to 5-6x weekly

7 DEC:

Qantas increase QF55/56 to 4x weekly

10 DEC:

Hawaiian Airlines add 4th weekly flight until 7/1 on TUE

18 DEC:

Air New Zealand add WLG/ZQN-BNE. NZ861/860 (3-4x weekly) and NZ827/828 (4-5x weekly) both A320 flights

Qantas add 789 to QF97/98 HKG, day 3 from BNE

20 DEC:

Philippine Airlines add 5th weekly flight until 25/1 on FRI, A321neo operating.

17 JAN:

Air China resume PEK-BNE, 4x weekly, A332

Overall a lot of exciting services to begin and increase + new aircraft in the next few months.

[BBJ789]

I believe we may see the Royal Thai Air Force A340 make a visit at some point in mid November.

[tourismman]

Originally Posted by BBJ789

I believe we may see the Royal Thai Air Force A340 make a visit at some point in mid November.

AND

perhaps more than that