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Old October 28th, 2012, 12:53 PM   #621
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Steve, do you know when the warships are leaving the Tyne?

We have relatives who would like to have seen them (ex shipyard worker) but they are getting on and were worried about visiting them in this "bad weather" so we might park up at Tynemouth and watch them leave.
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I got drunk in HMS INVERNESS once. Cost £1m a foot when new or something.

Estonia has a big problem with ex-soviet era ordnance dumped in its territorial waters. The place is a bit of a mine warfare nivarna for people in the marine ordnance disposal busoness.

I suppose it made sense we gave them a Sandown Class.

Cracking little ships, very clever sonar system that can identify a coke can on the sea bed. They can turn in their own length and like a lot of mine warfare ships are made of GRP with ferrous metal kept to a minimum.
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Old October 28th, 2012, 04:45 PM   #623
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Steve, do you know when the warships are leaving the Tyne?

We have relatives who would like to have seen them (ex shipyard worker) but they are getting on and were worried about visiting them in this "bad weather" so we might park up at Tynemouth and watch them leave.
They will start to go outbound from 13.20 tomorrow (Monday 29th) - if you ever want to check on Ship movements on the Tyne aim your browser @ http://www.portoftyneonline.co.uk/ha...d_shipping.asp

Takes them about an hour or so to get down river to Tynemouth. You can get a more sheltered view from the small public car park that is to the front of Knotts Flats
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Old October 28th, 2012, 04:47 PM   #624
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I got drunk in HMS INVERNESS once. Cost £1m a foot when new or something.

Estonia has a big problem with ex-soviet era ordnance dumped in its territorial waters. The place is a bit of a mine warfare nivarna for people in the marine ordnance disposal busoness.

I suppose it made sense we gave them a Sandown Class.

Cracking little ships, very clever sonar system that can identify a coke can on the sea bed. They can turn in their own length and like a lot of mine warfare ships are made of GRP with ferrous metal kept to a minimum.
Her present shade of grey is a nightmare to photograph Dan
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Old October 28th, 2012, 06:06 PM   #625
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They will start to go outbound from 13.20 tomorrow (Monday 29th) - if you ever want to check on Ship movements on the Tyne aim your browser @ http://www.portoftyneonline.co.uk/ha...d_shipping.asp

Takes them about an hour or so to get down river to Tynemouth. You can get a more sheltered view from the small public car park that is to the front of Knotts Flats
Cheers for that Steve.
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Old October 28th, 2012, 08:59 PM   #626
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FGS FULDA - M1058

German Navy Minehunter FGS FULDA - M1058 entering the Port of Tyne, North East England for a courtesy visit to Newcastle Upon Tyne as part of the NATO Standing Mine Countermeasures Force Group 1 (SNMCMG1) on 26th October 2012. Photographed from North Shields Fishquay.

Built: 1989
Dimensions: 54.50 x 9.20 x 2.60m
Type: "Frankenthal" class minehunter
Speed: 18.00 kn
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Old October 30th, 2012, 01:42 PM   #627
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You are all probably sick of seeing the photographs of the NATO Standing Mine Countermeasures Force Group 1 (SNMCMG1), so here is a summary of the Flotilla as it sailed out of the Port of Tyne yesterday, 29th October 2012.

HNLM Willemstad - M864


FGS FULDA - M1058


HNoMS KARMOY - M341


ENS Sakala - M314
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DONIZETTI

DONIZETTI alongside the Ocean Berth, Port of Tyne, North East England on 29th October 2012.

Type of ship : Chemical Tanker

IMO number 9174098
Call Sign LXDZ
MMSI 253217000

Gross tonnage : 2335
DWT : 3613

LENGTH OVERALL 99.95 m
BREADTH EXTREME 12.5 m
DRAUGHT 4.9 m

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Old October 30th, 2012, 06:48 PM   #629
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City of Rome

City of Rome at the Tyne Car Terminal, Port of Tyne, North East England on 29th October 2012.

Type of ship : Vehicles Carrier

IMO number 9174763
Call Sign MZMS2
MMSI 232079000

Gross tonnage : 9950
DWT : 2794





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Old October 30th, 2012, 09:30 PM   #630
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MIHO PRACAT

MIHO PRACAT unloading at the Tyne Bulker Terminal, Port of Tyne, North East England on 29th October 2012.

Type of ship : Bulk Carrier


IMO number 9384514
Call Sign 9AA6078
MMSI 238251000

Gross tonnage : 43717
DWT : 79964

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Old October 31st, 2012, 12:08 PM   #631
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Steve, can I just say (I'm sure on behalf of many forum members) that the large number of photos of yours (even more than usual!) over the last few days on this thread, have been very enjoyable to look through!
Yes, I always enjoy these. Great work, Steve.
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Old November 1st, 2012, 11:48 AM   #632
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Jupiter - Fjordline

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The Juputer did operate on the route but this is not 100% accurate. Jupiter sailed her last voyage from the tyne in 03. Fjordline then used MS Fjord Norway, which DFDS bought with the route and still operate on the Ijmuden route.

More info here: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_Princess_of_Norway
I was 'dusting' my hard drives and came across these photographs of Jupiter, taken on 5th February 2003 which since being taken hadn't seen the light of day.








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Old November 1st, 2012, 09:18 PM   #633
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Courtesy of The Shields Gazette.

Port hoping for jobs bonanza

By Paul Kelly
Published on Wednesday 31 October 2012 15:30




HUNDREDS of new jobs could be created at the South Tyneside-based Port of Tyne, it has emerged.

Ambitious plans for expansion in the renewable energy field could lead to major investment in the Port headquarters at Tyne Dock, South Shields.

The main aim is to create an offshore and wind turbine manufacturing site at the Port of Tyne, with the land and facilities already available to accommodate this on the site.

Now the search is on to persuade a major wind turbine manufacturer to set up in South Tyneside.

And today its chief operating officer, Steve Harrison, predicted a major jobs boost could follow.

He said: “At this stage we are talking to various potential customers and investors in both the wood pellet and offshore sectors.

Read more @ http://www.shieldsgazette.com/news/b...anza-1-5078620
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City of Rotterdam

CITY OF ROTTERDAM photographed at the Tyne Car Terminal, Port of Tyne, North East England on 2nd November 2012.

Type of Ship : Car Carrier

IMO number 9473468
Call Sign 3FUA7
MMSI 372002000




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Maple Ace II

MAPLE ACE II at the Tyne Car Terminal, Port of Tyne, North East England on 2nd November 2012.

IMO 9014808

Owner : Maple Car Transport - Singapore
Manager : MOL SHIP MANAGEMENT SINGAPORE

Built : 1992-07 Shin Kurushima Dockyard Co. Ltd. - Onishi Yard/hull No.: 2737 - Japan
Hull Material:Steel; Hull Connections:Welded; Decks:3 dks, 8 non-continuous dks; Bulbous bow.




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Old November 3rd, 2012, 07:48 PM   #636
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I am sure I have read something about this on the forum already but here's the question :
The building on King Street occupied by Sabbatini's why is it such a long thin shape? Is this form a burgage plot or from rebuilding after the fire?
My own personal take on the situation:

Built in 1875 by R.J. Johnson for the TYNE STEAM SHIPPING Company, it is so narrow (perhaps the most thinnest office block in Newcastle) as it was built on land that had been between PLUMMER CHARE and HORNSBY’S CHARE.

Following the 1854 Quayside Fire, King Street was built and consumed some of the burgage plot that had been between the previously mentioned Chares. Thus it does follow the footprint of an original burgage plot but much reduced to take into account the building work after the 1854 Great Fire.

There is reference to the building being named as SEAWAY HOUSE and housed amongst others in 1879, FOREIGN PASSPORT OFFICE and the NORTH OF ENGLAND STEAM SHIP OWNERS ASSOCIATION.
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Old November 3rd, 2012, 11:18 PM   #637
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As regards to the Tyne Tees Steam company there appears to be a number of locations, Gateshead Hillgate and the Hotel Vin at the bottom of Ouse Street spring to mind. Can anybody shed any light as to their activities and possible other locations please?

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As regards to the Tyne Tees Steam company there appears to be a number of locations, Gateshead Hillgate and the Hotel Vin at the bottom of Ouse Street spring to mind.

Can anybody shed any light as to their activities and possible other locations please?

Steve

As another one of the 'slightly spooky' coincidences that happen from time to time, while I was recently doing some research for Grace amongst my old Customs papers, I came across (and took out, to read later) a small booklet that was in one of the files, called . . .

Maritime History - The Tyne Steam Shipping Company, a Late 19th Century Shipping Line.

Then, a question arises about the very company that was to eventually become the Tyne Tees Steamship Company!!!

The below short extracts from the booklet, describe the origins of the Tyne Steam Shipping Company (though their locations are not discussed) and then a FULL record of all of their ships, from their commencement in 1864, to their merger with three other shipping companies in 1904, to form the (mentioned) Tyne Tees Steamship Company . . .











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What a fantastic start! Thank you NH, further findings will be posted!

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Tyne Tees Steam Shipping Company Limited

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What a fantastic start! Thank you NH, further findings will be posted!

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This is a paragraph from a report compiled by Mike Griffiths & Associates which accompanied the Planning Application for the former Allan House at Ouseburn. (Hotel Du Vin)

http://www.archaeologicalplanningcon..._ID=2&Page=2/5


Tyne Tees Steam Shipping Company Limited

The application of the steam engine to ocean going ships made the commercial coast-liner a reality. The first passenger carrying paddle-steamer to embark from Newcastle was the Gateshead built Rapid. The 24-ton vessel left Newcastle Quay in 1823 on a route from Newcastle to London. In the subsequent decades several entrepreneurs embarked on the mission of 'steam communication' between the Tyne and Thames. Steamships promised big business in an era when their rapid speed, and in time, roomier accommodation, offered an attractive alternative for passengers and light goods at a time when slow coach travel was the norm (Keys and Smith 2006).

The Tyne Steam Shipping Co Ltd was formed in 1864 out of the interests of W.D. Stephens, those of the Tyne and Continental Steam Navigation Co and the Newcastle, Antwerp and Dunkirk Steam Shipping Co. The venture was intended to coordinate the trade and coasting interests of the Newcastle Quayside. Between 1864 and 1903 the company operated routes out of Newcastle, to Hull, Yarmouth and London, as well as to the Continent: including Antwerp, Hamburg, Rotterdam, Dunkirk and Copenhagen. In the 1890s the number of passengers carried annually exceeded 20,000. The company owned in excess of twenty-five vessels, which ranged in size from the 323 ton Fusilier to the 1456 ton New Londoner. However, the risk inherent in coastal travel in the period is attested by the loss of around one-third of their number.

The Tyne Tees Steam Shipping Co Ltd was formed in 1903 by the merger of the Tyne Steam Shipping Co Ltd with three other concerns: the Tees Union Shipping Co Ltd; the London-based subsidiary firm Free Trade Wharf Co Ltd; and, the Furness Withy and Co Ltd. The company had their main offices at 25 Westgate, but in 1908 had new premises built to house 'new stores and works' on City Road at the site of Millers Hill, within plot of land No. 3003, as indicated on the 1896 Second Edition Ordnance Survey, 10ft to 1 mile (Figure 12). The building was designed by the architect J. Watson Taylor (b.1851) of St. John Street, Newcastle and was constructed to provide support and maintenance for vessels moored at the company's wharfs on the Quayside and at Gateshead. The building is first recorded in Wards Trade Directory in 1909-10. The building commands views along the company's wharfs and was ideally located at the bend of the river to be a major landmark to riverbourne traffic entering or leaving Newcastle. The building is now known as Allan House after the current occupiers, Allan Joinery, who purchased it in 1966/7 (Terry Sutherland, pers. com.); though the original sign recording the shipping company is still visible above the carriage arch (HER 5579).

To accommodate the company's workers houses were bought in the early 20 th century on Ouse Street. These were converted from tenements to flats in the 1932 (TWAS 22437).

Following the merger the company maintained its London and Continental services. It continued to operate throughout the First World War, though experienced some losses. In 1915 the 1540 ton Sir William Stephenson was mined and sunk off Great Yarmouth, and two years later the 1004 ton Grenadier was torpedoed off the Suffolk coast (Keys and Smith 2006).

By 1929 passenger numbers were in decline. The then chairman Sir Arthur Munro Sutherland admitted at the annual general meeting that buses had 'cut very heavily' into the company's profits. The last passenger ships ran in 1934 (Keys and Smith 2006) and the company shifted its emphasis to its cargo trading from Newcastle, Middlesborough and London to Holland in an attempt to remain viable. In 1943 the company and its subsidiary Free Trade Wharf Co Ltd were brought by Coast Lines Ltd, who continued to operate until 1967 (Mathias and Pearsall 1971).

Considerable records relating to the Tyne Tees Steam Shipping Co Ltd survive in the holdings of Tyne and Wear Archives Service (Ref. DT.TT). They include: corporate records; financial records; shareholders records; staff records; records of vessels; freight records; property records; publicity material; letters, photographs and documents regarding the Free Trade Wharf Co. Study of these documents is beyond the timescale and capacity of this assessment, but are referenced here for their good potential for the study of local economic and social history.

This is an advert for Tyne Tees Shipping from the 1925 River Tyne Official Handbook:



Advert - Tyne Tees Steam Shipping Co Ltd - Wards 1936 Directory:


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