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Old March 17th, 2019, 08:26 PM   #61
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Excellent news if that is the case, I am sure the proposal for the Snowhill tower would not be too far behind either!

The thing I find most exciting about this development is I am more certain Berkeley will get this done with the pace that Snowhill wharf moved along unlike other proposals which have been a bit stagnant.
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Old March 17th, 2019, 08:29 PM   #62
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I'm sure the Snow Hill tower won't be far behind but I wasn't able to gain any further information.

Yep, totally agree Lucas. I think this site is in very good hands. Hope it's the 'second' of many.
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Old March 17th, 2019, 08:44 PM   #63
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I'm sure the Snow Hill tower won't be far behind but I wasn't able to gain any further information.



Yep, totally agree Lucas. I think this site is in very good hands. Hope it's the 'second' of many.


Which snow hill tower is this?
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Old March 17th, 2019, 08:46 PM   #64
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Which snow hill tower is this?

Opposite where Snow Hill 2 is, on the former Lumina proposal site. We were told around September time last year that it would be about 300 homes. We don't know the height.

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Old March 17th, 2019, 09:16 PM   #65
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Opposite where Snow Hill 2 is, on the former Lumina proposal site. We were told around September time last year that it would be about 300 homes. We don't know the height.


Ohhhh nice! 300 homes that quite a bit should be expecting a quality build with some height
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Old March 17th, 2019, 09:18 PM   #66
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Ohhhh nice! 300 homes that quite a bit should be expecting a quality build with some height



You've just forgotten this Hasaandoo. (Call the police someone. Hasaandoo has forgotten a proposal). I remember you commenting on it at the time we found out about it. We're expecting it to be tall.
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Old March 17th, 2019, 09:28 PM   #67
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You've just forgotten this Hasaandoo. (Call the police someone. Hasaandoo has forgotten a proposal). I remember you commenting on it at the time we found out about it. We're expecting it to be tall.


my baddddddd I knew there was something on lumina never knew it was a Berkeley development I though it was the bomb site car park or is that a completely different development. Berkeley did say they値l make the tallest tower in Birmingham, so above 146m
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Old March 17th, 2019, 09:41 PM   #68
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my baddddddd I knew there was something on lumina never knew it was a Berkeley development I though it was the bomb site car park or is that a completely different development. Berkeley did say they値l make the tallest tower in Birmingham, so above 146m

Didn't know Berkeley were saying it was going to be the tallest. I'm expecting 30-35 storeys but that's only a guess. No inside knowledge.


The Bomb Site car park was Sterling but we now think it is Moda.
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Old March 17th, 2019, 09:41 PM   #69
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I have it on good authority that a planning application for the redevelopment of this site has already been submitted and that we may see it appear on the planning portal next week.

Before anyone asks and derails the thread, I was unable to gain any information on the proposed Snow Hill tower.
It has been submitted...

Unfortunately it’s for hoardings...


Application Details
Application Number2019/02006/PA
Application TypeFull Planning
Site AddressLand at Eastside Locks Plots D, E and F Birmingham
ProposalErection of temporary hoarding to site boundary
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It has been submitted...

Unfortunately it痴 for hoardings...

Hoardings app has been submitted and validated.


Proposals app has also been submitted and is awaiting validation by BCC. We may hear next week.
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Old March 17th, 2019, 10:29 PM   #71
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Didn't know Berkeley were saying it was going to be the tallest. I'm expecting 30-35 storeys but that's only a guess. No inside knowledge.





The Bomb Site car park was Sterling but we now think it is Moda.


I知 sure when the announced that they値l be building in Birmingham they stated they値l build the biggest tower in Birmingham, unless they got another sight apart from this and lumina and snow hill wharf
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Old March 17th, 2019, 11:33 PM   #72
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I知 sure when the announced that they値l be building in Birmingham they stated they値l build the biggest tower in Birmingham, unless they got another sight apart from this and lumina and snow hill wharf



There were a couple of other sites they were looking at when we found out about this site back in September but they wouldn't give any more info at the time because neither site was in the public domain.It appears that is still the case.


Tony Pidgeley, the Chairman of the company, said last year that they want to be building 3,000 homes a year in Birmingham if my memory serves me well so we should hear more from them this year.
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Old March 17th, 2019, 11:52 PM   #73
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Didn't know Berkeley were saying it was going to be the tallest. I'm expecting 30-35 storeys but that's only a guess. No inside knowledge.


The Bomb Site car park was Sterling but we now think it is Moda.
Apologies for my ignorance, but where is the Bomb Site car park?

Is it on the Birmingham Interactive Map?
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Apologies for my ignorance, but where is the Bomb Site car park?

Is it on the Birmingham Interactive Map?

It's on Great Charles Street, between Ludgate Hill and Livery Street.

Don't know.

I went to a consultation for a development proposal on the site back in September 2015 but it never saw the light of day.

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Old March 18th, 2019, 09:12 AM   #75
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Tony Pidgeley, the Chairman of the company, said last year that they want to be building 3,000 homes a year in Birmingham if my memory serves me well so we should hear more from them this year.
I’m still sceptical about that. Most developers only build a max of 150 a year on a good day. I think he misspoke and meant 3000 homes over a period. To put it into context, the Council think there is land for about 20-30000 homes in the City Centre. Over 10 yrs these guys would have met that alone which doesn’t seem correct.

Seven Cap who have been prolific haven’t managed anywhere near 1000 homes a year never mind 3K.
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The former Lumina site is going to be 30 something floors and plans are close to be being made public.

And Moda are in the process of drawing up plans for the Great Charles Street Car Park. I don't think you'll see anything mega tall there. The planners are quite anti it in that location. The only building of any height is allowed in the front right hand corner (by the viaduct).

And apologies for going off topic!
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Old March 18th, 2019, 01:19 PM   #77
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Fidget, people are welcome to go off topic when they are giving excellent news. (NB. People will obviously go off topic at times, that's understandable. It's just when threads get completely derailed that it's a problem).


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I知 still sceptical about that. Most developers only build a max of 150 a year on a good day. I think he misspoke and meant 3000 homes over a period. To put it into context, the Council think there is land for about 20-30000 homes in the City Centre. Over 10 yrs these guys would have met that alone which doesn稚 seem correct.

Seven Cap who have been prolific haven稚 managed anywhere near 1000 homes a year never mind 3K.

I may have misquoted but I don't think I have. I seem to remember it was 3,000 a year. It does sound a lot but if they're building tall and building in the suburbs as well, they could achieve a high annual total. That said, it does sound an awful lot of homes to be building every year.
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Fidget, people are welcome to go off topic when they are giving excellent news. (NB. People will obviously go off topic at times, that's understandable. It's just when threads get completely derailed that it's a problem).

I may have misquoted but I don't think I have. I seem to remember it was 3,000 a year. It does sound a lot but if they're building tall and building in the suburbs as well, they could achieve a high annual total. That said, it does sound an awful lot of homes to be building every year.
You remembered correctly RalphyGuy! It was from an interview with Birmingham Mail on September 27th last year:

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...homes-15169215

Whether they misquoted him is a different matter but you would have thought it would have been corrected by them or him if it wasn't what he said.

ETA: although he did include 'surrounding areas', which might include the wider west midlands and even east midlands too.
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The former Lumina site is going to be 30 something floors and plans are close to be being made public.

And Moda are in the process of drawing up plans for the Great Charles Street Car Park. I don't think you'll see anything mega tall there. The planners are quite anti it in that location. The only building of any height is allowed in the front right hand corner (by the viaduct).

And apologies for going off topic!
Thanks Fidget for this info! one question and promise back on topic after. will the lumina site be a commercial building or apartments
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Thanks Fidget for this info! one question and promise back on topic after. will the lumina site be a commercial building or apartments



Around 300 apartments.
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