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Old April 13th, 2014, 11:37 PM   #1021
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Please get it right It's not the planners, it's the Highway Engineers!

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I did mean planner as in those who plan the traffic flow, rather than those who actually plan the roads .
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Old April 14th, 2014, 12:04 AM   #1022
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I did mean planner as in those who plan the traffic flow, rather than those who actually plan the roads .
Planners should be short for Town Planners, but is generally used by people as anyone who does new stuff for the council and a form of critisism

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Old April 14th, 2014, 02:44 AM   #1023
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Planners should be short for Town Planners, but is generally used by people as anyone who does new stuff for the council and a form of critisism Cheers GBDT (not a planner though)
I wish I had £1 for every time I get the blame for anything and everything when people find out I'm a planner.

This one is definitely one for a Highway Engineer
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Old April 14th, 2014, 02:14 PM   #1024
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I've yet to see a traffic light controlled intersection in Tyne and Wear do anything but increase congestion. It's as if the planners deliberately cause sets of lights to be out of synchronisation (or have totally wrong timings) with each other...
Not sure about Tyne and Wear but when Stanley finally got some traffic lights installed a few years back it improved things massively.
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Old April 14th, 2014, 06:57 PM   #1025
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Lights will help, especially for pedestrians and cyclists, but a flyover for North/South traffic would be better.
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Old April 14th, 2014, 11:14 PM   #1026
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Have to say I find the A1 / Lobley Hill roundabout improved since it was signalised, and I think that the junction at the South end of the Team Valley would benefit from lights as well.
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Old April 15th, 2014, 11:16 AM   #1027
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Lights do help the flow of traffic at peak times along with helping pedestrians cross. Having lights on roundabouts working at non peak times adds to a lot of start stopping for no reason.
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 09:51 PM   #1028
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In a sort of tongue in cheek way does anyone know if Gateshead council are a majority shareholder in a traffic light manufacturer?

Just had a meeting in Birtley at the Komatsu plant and was astounded by the amount of traffic lights in a short space. Here's the list (including planned)

Zebra crossing at Windsor Road.
Zebra crossing outside 3 Tuns Pub (installing next week)
Signal junction at Red Lion/Birtley Lane (currently being installed)
Signal junction at Station Lane
Signal junction at new Morrisons development (later this year)
Signal junction at Harras Bank/Komatsu.

How the hell is traffic supposed to flow with all those junctions? And such a short space. You can stand at one end of Birtley and be able to see 4 sets of traffic lights. Crazy.
zebra at the 3 Tuns being painted on the road today, saving the punters a 100 yard walk to the other zebra crossing outside the thai wah takeaway...

the red lion lights to be honest have helped with traffic build up on birtley lane... still one more set of lights to be installed at morrisons new entrance...
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Old April 22nd, 2014, 11:24 PM   #1029
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zebra at the 3 Tuns being painted on the road today, saving the punters a 100 yard walk to the other zebra crossing outside the thai wah takeaway...

the red lion lights to be honest have helped with traffic build up on birtley lane... still one more set of lights to be installed at morrisons new entrance...
I assume its to stop drunks coming out of the Tuns or people parking at the Tuns and crossing to get to the One Stop. It is crazy with one so close by and right next to that rather busy Sanders Gardens junction.

Morrisons' ones are going in shortly I believe
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Old May 7th, 2014, 07:34 PM   #1030
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Transport bosses reveal £3m improvement plans for Cowgate roundabout

From today's Journal Live, copyright NCJMedia Ltd @ http://www.thejournal.co.uk/news/nor...vement-7084741

Transport bosses reveal £3m improvement plans for Cowgate roundabout
May 07, 2014 16:00 By Mike Kelly



Details of a £4.5m plan to overhaul one of Newcastle’s busiest junctions have been revealed.

Planners admitted the work at Cowgate roundabout, which is used by thousands of motorists each day, will cause disruption with work due to start in the summer and not be completed until January 2015. However they say it will make what has become a notorious accident blackspot safer and ease traffic congestion.

The scheme involves:

*Changing the road layout by making one large junction from the existing roundabout and mini-roundabout to reduce congestion and collisions.

*Putting in better and joined up signalling to increase the smooth flow of traffic and reduce journey times.

*Making priority lanes for buses to speed up public transport. Around 70 pass through the junction every hour during the day.

*Removing the subway and replacing it with street-level and signalised crossings making it easier and safer to cross the junction.

*Providing better access to local shops and services including Morrisons.

*Creating dedicated and direct cycle routes through the junction making it safer for cyclists.

The scheme is to go to public consultation next week which could result in some minor changes but officials said this is their preferred plan. Newcastle transport bosses said they had to act with nearly 10% of all city centre traffic passing through the junction, often causing massive congestion. The road is also slowing down airport traffic, with nearly 14% of all cars getting to the airport by passing through the roundabout.

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Old May 7th, 2014, 08:33 PM   #1031
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In spite of getting mugged in the dark, isn't it safer and quicker to have a subway for pedestrian crossing which would suit all. Traffic would flow quicker and pedestrians would be segregated from moving vehicles without the wait to cross.
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Old May 7th, 2014, 09:54 PM   #1032
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"joined up signalling" that would be a nice change.

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Old May 7th, 2014, 09:59 PM   #1033
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isn't it safer and quicker to have a subway for pedestrian crossing which would suit all. Traffic would flow quicker and pedestrians would be segregated from moving vehicles without the wait to cross.

Yes, but it requires a little more effort from the pedestrian.
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Old May 8th, 2014, 03:31 PM   #1034
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And many/ most find subways intimidating, especially at night. However well designed they can effectively exclude some with disabilities, including the very old, and there are going to be a lot more of them with us in the very near future.
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Old May 8th, 2014, 03:44 PM   #1035
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Am I reading that diagram right? Are they taking out both Cowgate roundabout and the mini one?

That would be a major change!
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Old May 8th, 2014, 04:45 PM   #1036
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Cowgate roundabout set to have major overhaul which could cause months of disruption

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Am I reading that diagram right? Are they taking out both Cowgate roundabout and the mini one?

That would be a major change!
Indeed they are - check out the Chronicle article @ https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=994

Motorists are to be warned to expect major changes to the Cowgate roundabout as a £3m gets the go ahead. The changes will see the roundabout merged with a smaller mini-roundabout to make one large junction which the council says will make it safer for motorists in what has become a notorious accident blackspot.

Just as dramatic a change is planned for the subway beneath the roundabout. Council planners say they want to fill it in or concrete over it, saying the time has come for a safer walkway. They want to remove what they call “the unpopular subway” and replace it with street-level and signalised crossings, making it easier and safer to cross the junction.
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Old May 8th, 2014, 07:48 PM   #1037
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The Cowgate Roundabout.


Further to the above discussions about all the planned changes, including the "filling in" or "concreting over" of the current large 1960s Cowgate Roundabout and complex of underpasses, I thought it might be interesting to have a look back at some photos that were posted on the Historic Newcastle thread, back in 2010 . . .


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Building the Cowgate Roundabout, in 1967.

This is quite a historic photo . . .

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A few more photos from Maxtoon, showing the 'Health & Safety shy' construction of the Cowgate Roundabout ..

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Old May 9th, 2014, 01:01 PM   #1038
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£6.5m to improve key road junction - Seaton Burn Roundabout

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£6.5m to improve key road junction

8th May 2014



A multi-million pound scheme is due to start on reducing congestion at a key road junction.

The Highways Agency is planning on spending £6.5m to improve the A1/A19 Seaton Burn junction to cut congestion and reduce journey times. And officials say that the work, due to start on June 2 and be completed by December, could boost local projects which would have the potential to create 17,300 jobs and 16,300 homes by 2020.

Work on the Seaton Burn junction will see improvements to the northbound and southbound exit slip roads from the A1; widening the Fisher Lane roundabout and the A1068, A1 and A19 approaches; installing traffic signals on the B1318 approach to the junction; improving pedestrian and cyclist facilities; providing a new concrete barrier on the A1; and installing new traffic signs, signals, lighting, retaining walls and landscaping. Work will take place during the day and night and there will be narrow lanes in place on the northbound A1 and A19 carriageways. During the work there will be night time lane closures, full closures and speed restrictions. It will also be necessary to close Fisher Lane roundabout for four weekends, during which time signed diversion routes will be put in place.

The schemes are part of a £317m Pinch Point improvement programme designed to boost local economies, reduce congestion and improve safety on the strategic road network in England. There are four Pinch Point schemes, totalling more than £21m, in the north east. They are part of a major programme of road improvements, with the region benefiting from over £500m of investments.

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Old May 9th, 2014, 01:33 PM   #1039
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A flyover connecting the A1 South bound (allowing A1 North bound to run underneath it)to the A19 would solve this problem, I assume £6.5 million would not stretch to this?

It is a shame they didn't do this at the same time as they "fixed" the R.A.B. connecting the A189 to the A19, 8 months that took to widen the A189 and the R.A.B. by one lane.
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Old May 16th, 2014, 10:46 AM   #1040
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Northumberland MP issues fresh calls for dualling of A69 road

From today's Journal Live, copyright NCJMedia Ltd @ http://www.thejournal.co.uk/news/nor...alling-7128395

Northumberland MP issues fresh calls for dualling of A69 road
May 16, 2014 08:15 By Brian Daniel



A Northumberland MP has issued fresh calls for the dualling of the A69.

Hexham Conservative MP Guy Opperman has written to transport secretary Patrick McLoughlin to request a meeting to discuss the potential for the full dualling of the Newcastle to Carlisle road, which is largely single carriageway to the west of Hexham. The MP’s action comes after he called for a safety review of the A69 in April last year after a number of fatal crashes.

The following month, Mr McLoughlin revealed the Highways Agency had already commissioned a safety review of the full length of the road, the results of which were said to be expected soon and a road safety action plan “near to completion”, the minister added.

Mr Opperman’s stance also follows calls by Hexham Town Council for the dualling of the road west of the town in 2011. The MP said the time is right to put the dualling of the road back on the agenda. He added: “The best way to improve safety of the A69 is to dual it. I hope to discuss with the minister how we can make long-term progress on dualling the A69 carriageway. I am afraid the important nature of the road coupled with its single carriageway status is resulting in some very dangerous incidents, people driving too fast toward blind hills, overtaking on double white lines and tailgating are all real problems. Yes we need people to drive safely but fundamentally we need to address the issue of no safe overtaking opportunities for a 20-mile or so stretch of the road.” Mr Opperman also said there would be an “economic dividend” for West Tynedale if the carriageway was dualled which could “transform” the economy of places like Haltwhistle and Haydon Bridge. He added: “Some of our towns in the west would really benefit from the economic regeneration that dualling the A69 would bring. I am determined we get this back on the agenda.”

Mr Opperman’s call for action last April came after an accident near Haydon Bridge in which a man was killed after his car collided with a lorry. In December 2012, a woman was killed in a three-vehicle pile-up on a stretch of single carriageway between Haydon Bridge and Hexham. In October 2012, a 76-year-old Melkridge man was knocked down and killed as he crossed the A69 walking home from church with his wife and earlier in July, a 66-year-old Cumbrian man was killed in a two-car accident near Hexham. That June a 50-year-old Tyneside man died in a crash on the A69 near Ovingham, east of Hexham.

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