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Old August 20th, 2005, 04:45 PM   #1
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Old August 20th, 2005, 04:56 PM   #2
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Athens, Greece.

Any city can have a 150m tall Skyscraper,
One city can have a 150m tall acropolis.....

ATHENA: THE CRADLE OF WESTERN CIVILISATION
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Old August 20th, 2005, 05:34 PM   #3
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Athens - in ancient times, this was the leading cultural and intellectual centre on the planet. Much of "western civilization" has its origins there.

Rome - capital of the Roman Empire. Major influence on the development of government, law, military, architecture, and many other aspects of Western life.

London - home to some of the most famous Kings and Queens in history, spanning the Saxon, Norman, MediŠval, Tudor, Stuart, Georgian and Victorian periods. The parliamentary model of democratic government was formed there. It was also the centre of the Industrial Revolution, and capital of the largest and most widespread empire in modern history. It survived the Great Fire of London, numerous plagues, invasions, rebellions, and of course the devastating bomb attacks of World War II.
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Old August 20th, 2005, 05:48 PM   #4
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when was london founded?
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It was founded by the Romans in about 50 AD.

Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_London
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Old August 20th, 2005, 06:54 PM   #6
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thank you.
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Old August 20th, 2005, 08:02 PM   #7
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How can a city be the MOST historical.

Every city got their history
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Old August 20th, 2005, 08:56 PM   #8
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Athens - in ancient times, this was the leading cultural and intellectual centre on the planet. Much of "western civilization" has its origins there.

Rome - capital of the Roman Empire. Major influence on the development of government, law, military, architecture, and many other aspects of Western life.

London - home to some of the most famous Kings and Queens in history, spanning the Saxon, Norman, MediŠval, Tudor, Stuart, Georgian and Victorian periods. The parliamentary model of democratic government was formed there. It was also the centre of the Industrial Revolution, and capital of the largest and most widespread empire in modern history. It survived the Great Fire of London, numerous plagues, invasions, rebellions, and of course the devastating bomb attacks of World War II.
Athens in ancient time was the intellectual center on the Planet?
How western-centric, I assume you didn't bother to think of any other civilizations' existence during that time.
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Old August 20th, 2005, 10:53 PM   #9
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How can a city be the MOST historical.

Every city got their history
Well, obviously some cities are more historical than others.

Think in terms of:
  • The number of old landmarks, heritage sites and monuments which are preserved in the city.

  • The amount of influence the city had in the past, in terms of shaping the world.

  • The number of famous people who lived in the city in the past, e.g. writers, philosophers, emperors, monarchs, artists, musicians, politicians, scientists, inventors, explorers, etc...

  • The number of famous events that took place in the city's past, and the significance of those events.
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Old August 20th, 2005, 10:55 PM   #10
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Athens in ancient time was the intellectual center on the Planet?
How western-centric, I assume you didn't bother to think of any other civilizations' existence during that time.
Well, Athens was the first place which came to my mind. Feel free to disagree with me.
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Old August 21st, 2005, 01:41 AM   #11
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Old August 21st, 2005, 01:47 AM   #12
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Old August 21st, 2005, 03:42 AM   #13
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And what about Beijing?
That was a very important city for most of the asian culture I suppose.
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Old August 21st, 2005, 04:32 PM   #14
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Well, Athens was the first place which came to my mind. Feel free to disagree with me.
Cities in China, Egypt, and India were as equally important (even more) as Athens as intellectual centers during their time.
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Old August 21st, 2005, 07:02 PM   #15
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For Europe Rome
For Asia(east Asia) definetly Beijing
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Old August 22nd, 2005, 12:25 AM   #16
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wjfox2000 if the basis of the discussion is what you have posted them you are leaving out half of the world and only concentrating on Europe and a few cities in Asia and Africa. What about the new world??

Th poll should be about whcih city has the most well preserved and comprehensive historic quarter and not about which city has been more influential throughout history.
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Old August 22nd, 2005, 12:43 AM   #17
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maybe Cairo or Giza ... once a home of a great empire 3000 years ago.. and Xian, China-- the same age as Athens
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Old August 22nd, 2005, 02:37 AM   #18
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Cairo, Beijing, Athens all comes to mind.

One that hasnt been mentioned yet is baghdad. Baghdad is located in one of the cradles of civilization, mesoptania. Its been a significant city from ancient times, even contained the world's largest library.
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Old August 22nd, 2005, 06:35 AM   #19
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Rome, Athens, and London for me. Rome and Athens for ancient history, London for more modern history (1600- present)
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Old August 22nd, 2005, 07:09 AM   #20
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Athens in ancient time was the intellectual center on the Planet?
How western-centric, I assume you didn't bother to think of any other civilizations' existence during that time.
well then tell me why the other civilisations dont come to mind first?

Because Athens is the BEGINING of the western world.....were Democracy was started, were Freedom was invented. There is a reason for it coming to mind first you know....
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