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Old October 11th, 2005, 09:47 PM   #81
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@potto: When there's plenty of money sloshing around it can work, but when residents must rely on the beneficence of Southwark or Lambeth Borough Council we know it'll all end in tears.
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Old October 11th, 2005, 09:55 PM   #82
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This development has nothing to do with the Southbank masterplans. Its in a different location for a start! Those masterplans for the cultural district of the Southbank and the other attempts by other architects have all collapsed due to bickering, local politics, lack of leadership and funding problems. There is still a chance we will get another try but at the moment it seems that piece-meal improvements are the way forward. Anyway are you telling me that this development wouldnt look good as a backdrop to any of the Rogers plans?
I hope you're not suggesting that we should build an hideous tower because its in keeping with the crap that is the south bank centre?
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Old October 12th, 2005, 12:23 AM   #83
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no im saying this development has nothing to do with the Rogers development in that it doesnt stop a similar masterplan from occuring in the future because it is in a different location.

The brochure from the developers shows clearly that they have noted and addressed the inadequacies of the urban environment in the proposed location and from a street level and from a community prospective it has all the ingredients to be a success.

In skyline terms i think that this will appear attractive when considering current proposals and almost certain future tall proposals in this area
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Old October 12th, 2005, 03:49 AM   #84
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My SSP drawing of it.
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Old October 12th, 2005, 05:59 AM   #85
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too fat and too short
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Old October 12th, 2005, 07:10 PM   #86
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Wrong location. Really it would all have to be moved eastwards towards where Beetham would be.
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Old October 14th, 2005, 04:43 AM   #87
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Updated my SSP drawing. Looks alot better now.
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Old October 14th, 2005, 05:23 AM   #88
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let's see it then

edit: looks much better

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Old October 14th, 2005, 10:18 AM   #89
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Old October 14th, 2005, 02:48 PM   #90
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The updated drawing was already up in my other post.
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Old October 15th, 2005, 12:30 PM   #91
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The proposal is fine in principal and addresses lots of the issues of affordable housing and community facilities. But I have reservations about the design. Just looks a bit bleuuuuurh and compared to what we're used to (Riverside South, 122 Leadenhall, Gherkin, Bishopsgate and Minerva - albeit office towers), it certainly lacks something. Summed up - IMO, it makes Beetham look beautiful.
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Old October 15th, 2005, 01:47 PM   #92
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its too square, it need softening a little
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The proposal is fine in principal and addresses lots of the issues of affordable housing and community facilities. But I have reservations about the design. Just looks a bit bleuuuuurh and compared to what we're used to (Riverside South, 122 Leadenhall, Gherkin, Bishopsgate and Minerva - albeit office towers), it certainly lacks something. Summed up - IMO, it makes Beetham look beautiful.
hmm, I think that could e a good thing, something that isnt so eye catching but will add bulk to beetham and wont make it stand out alone
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Old October 20th, 2005, 01:14 AM   #94
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This tower will block the view of LBT from Hungerford 'Golden Jubilee' Bridge.
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Old October 20th, 2005, 09:02 AM   #95
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I quite like that aspect of this potential cluster here. I can imagine turning the bend in the river and suddenly LBT appears with DIFA on the other side of the panorama. I think this would be quite dramatic and sort of mirrors a typical London street where things suddenly appear into view
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Old October 21st, 2005, 01:36 AM   #96
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im not sure i see any problem with it..hmmmm ill have a think
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Old October 21st, 2005, 09:12 AM   #97
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I think 'hiding' certain things for later on is a bloody brilliant idea, would we not all love there to be enough quality architecture so that we have to get round half to look at the other half???? I know I would....
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Old November 1st, 2005, 09:33 PM   #98
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Cabe have given this a postive report but cautious of the view from Horseguards

http://www.cabe.org.uk/review/report...rts.asp?id=312
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Old November 2nd, 2005, 12:52 AM   #99
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thats a bit concerning regarding the view from horse guards... squared off tops always seem to look bad when they appear half-heartedly or slightly protuding above an existing skyline, it just isnt satisfying aesthetically and just feels like an intrusion. Surely if the architects knew about this (you would hope so) then you would have thought they would have come to the conclusion that a tapered point to the tower would be the best design and certainly not a black block... hmm
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Why not an aspiring crown
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