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Old March 18th, 2019, 06:44 PM   #7341
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Love the idea but I feel like the ferris wheel is not in a great location - surrounded by an industrial area combined with possibly high ticket prices and low public interest.
I think it depends on the success of the T1 mall, I have not visited it yet so I dont know what exists there and if there are any activities other than shopping.
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Old March 18th, 2019, 09:48 PM   #7342
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The entertainment section is supposedly working out a lot better for them than shops.
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Old March 18th, 2019, 09:52 PM   #7343
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The entertainment section is supposedly working out a lot better for them than shops.
My kids loved the skypark
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Old March 18th, 2019, 10:53 PM   #7344
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Old March 21st, 2019, 01:11 AM   #7345
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Keskkonnamaja



Keskkonnaministeerium soovib alustada keskkonnamaja ehitust 2020. aastal ja majja sisse kolida 2022. aastal. Projekti kogumaksumuseks on prognoositud 38,5 miljonit eurot.
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Old March 21st, 2019, 10:48 AM   #7346
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How in the hell are they planning to meet the required energy standards with that huge atrium? There is no way it will be built that way.

My bet is that they'll reduce that archway to maybe two-storeys tall and it won't go all the way through the building, maybe only a small hall on both sides. This, of course, means that the whole concept of this main building will be ruined but that's what RKAS is for.

What's also likely is they'll ditch the timber structural framing with concrete and only keep some stylistic wooden elements on the outside and the interior.

BTW, this "super-duper environmentally friendly" building will have 450 underground parking spaces
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Old March 21st, 2019, 01:29 PM   #7347
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How in the hell are they planning to meet the required energy standards with that huge atrium? There is no way it will be built that way.

My bet is that they'll reduce that archway to maybe two-storeys tall and it won't go all the way through the building, maybe only a small hall on both sides. This, of course, means that the whole concept of this main building will be ruined but that's what RKAS is for.

What's also likely is they'll ditch the timber structural framing with concrete and only keep some stylistic wooden elements on the outside and the interior.

BTW, this "super-duper environmentally friendly" building will have 450 underground parking spaces
actually. Atriums are part and parcel of energy efficient buildings.
As for other criticism, absolutely agreed. I also took part in this competition, i got ****ed over by RKAS ofcourse, so they didnt even send the work to the jury.

heres what Me and Tõnu came up with. As you can see we also made an atrium.




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Old March 21st, 2019, 01:46 PM   #7348
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Can you explain that to a layman like me? Because what I see is a massive space that needs to be heated for a relatively small floor area. And since energy efficiency is measured by kWh/m2 per annum, you will have an energy consumption that's much higher on average than for a building with the same floor space but with no atrium. Again, I'm not an architect nor a civil engineer so my logic might be completely flawed.
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Old March 21st, 2019, 02:11 PM   #7349
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Can you explain that to a layman like me? Because what I see is a massive space that needs to be heated for a relatively small floor area. And since energy efficiency is measured by kWh/m2 per annum, you will have an energy consumption that's much higher on average than for a building with the same floor space but with no atrium. Again, I'm not an architect nor a civil engineer so my logic might be completely flawed.
Well, one of the most important aspects is the ratio of facade surface area compared to the floor area. If you set atrium in the middle you are exposing 50% less of your facade to the outer elements. With proper sunshading you also get a greenhouse effect in the winter, which is free heating, ofcourse proper shading means you dont get greenhouse effect in the summer.
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Old March 21st, 2019, 05:16 PM   #7350
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Keskkonnaministeerium soovib alustada keskkonnamaja ehitust 2020. aastal ja majja sisse kolida 2022. aastal. Projekti kogumaksumuseks on prognoositud 38,5 miljonit eurot.
Meenutab Rotterdami Market Halli. I like it!
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Old March 21st, 2019, 09:00 PM   #7351
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Meenutab Rotterdami Market Halli. I like it!
RKAS paneb käed külge, ja varsti enam ei meenuta.
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Old March 22nd, 2019, 12:46 PM   #7352
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RKAS paneb käed külge, ja varsti enam ei meenuta.
Veidi OT, aga huvitav kas Eesti rahva muuseumi projekteerimise ajal seoti RKAS`i projektijuhtide käed kinni et nad midagi teha ei saaks. Ala, kas on mingi RKAS´i projekt mis ka vähemalt 95% võistlustööle vastaks. PS, mitte et ma kärbetest aru ei saaks raha on ikka ühe palju, ning hoonet eeldatavalt kiiresti vaja.
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Old March 22nd, 2019, 01:52 PM   #7353
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Konkurssidel osalevad tiimid võiks mõnikord enda hulka kaasata mõne eriosade spetsialisti, konstruktori ning eelarvestaja, siis muutuks RKAS-i hilisem kärpimistöö palju lihtsamaks

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Old March 26th, 2019, 11:13 PM   #7354
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Old March 27th, 2019, 05:15 PM   #7355
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Keskkonnamaja võistlusest on saamas omamoodi skandaal: https://www.err.ee/924038/pealtnagij...ses-tobeda-vea

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..Hoolimata sellest, et töö oli valmis ja jõudis paberil RKAS-i kontorisse, öeldi arhitektidele, et nad ei esitanud tööd. Mapid tagastati, ilma et keegi oleks neid isegi avanud.

Seejuures polnud Eek ja Mutso ainsad kõrvalejääjad - detailid on pisut erinevad, aga IT-sekelduse tõttu jäi internetis töö esitamata kolmel bürool, näiteks ka Salto arhitektidel...

...Arhitektid avaldasid protesti nii hankekeskkonda haldavale rahandusministeeriumile kui RKAS-ile, et viga polnud neis, kuid ametkonnad teatasid sisuliselt, et süsteem töötab ja oma viga, kui seda kasutada ei oska või üles laadimine viimasele hetkele jäi...

...Nüüd otsisid arhitektid IT-spetsialisti, kes tuvastas lõpuks kurja juure: nimelt võtab veebikeskkond küll korraga vastu kuni 20-megabaidiseid faile, aga need tuleb üles laadida täpselt ühe minuti jooksul! Kui see 60 sekundiga ei õnnestu, katkestatakse tegevus automaatselt. Ehk teisisõnu – kõik taandub sellele, kui kiire internet sul on. Selle eest ei hoiatata aga kusagil...
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Old March 27th, 2019, 05:38 PM   #7356
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Ülle Madise jutt on sümpaatne, vastutavate riigiasutuste kommentaarid ajasid aga lihtsalt marru.
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Old March 28th, 2019, 01:08 PM   #7357
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Jätkub, arhliit tegi pressiteate: https://www.err.ee/924314/arhitektid...ab-burokraatia

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Naljaga pooleks näitab ju see seda et kui turvaline on hankekeskkond, eriti võrreldes teiste asutustega( ala viimane kaitseväe dokumentide avalikkuse skandaal). 60 sekundit et esitada fail muidu ühendus katkeb, see on nagu peaaegu tuumaallveelaeval kus raketi lakmiseks tuleb kahte võtit samaaegselt keerata 2 erineva inimese poolt.
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Old April 3rd, 2019, 10:24 AM   #7359
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Ehitisregistrisse on ilmunud Veskiposti tn 2 büroohoone ehitusloa taotlus. Hoone asendiplaan ajab oksele...364 maapealset parkimiskohta


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Sinna parklasse saaks veel kolm samasugust maja ehitada. Täielik lollus planeerija poolt...
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