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Old September 30th, 2019, 06:09 PM   #1
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East Midlands Growth : What do we really need?

What does the East Midlands really need to boost our economy for the new decade and beyond? How can we reach our full potential?
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Old October 1st, 2019, 12:38 PM   #2
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It's a good question.

We hear of the Northern Powerhouse. Also the Midlands Engine.

Even though the Midlands Engine has a larger population than the Northern Powerhouse; all you ever hear about in the media is the latter. The Midlands Engine is also very heavily focused on Birmingham and the West Midlands.

So with that in mind, the East Midlands seems a long way down in the priority list. We miss out on many infrastructure projects and have some of the lowest government investment per head of population.

It is hard to see how we can push ourselves further up. The three main cities are separate from each other and none of them dominate the region. The regional airport doesn't have a direct rail link and the potentially doomed HS2 is going to pass it by.

We are strong on tourism and have some of the best natural beauty in the whole country. We have sea resorts, forests, highlands and uplands. There are plenty of famous people from the region.

But we are still left with an identity problem.

The south-east and London dominate the UK. The south-west, north-east, north-west and Yorkshire have very strong identities.

Perhaps our best chance is a strong alignment with Birmingham. But what I've seen proposed by the Midlands Engine and Midland Connect isn't particularly exciting.
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EMexit!

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We need mote buildings around the train station as a starter. The whole of the grotty granby st and Charles street can redevelop and change its current image. East Midlands will never work as hub all the cities are too far away
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Old October 2nd, 2019, 11:35 AM   #5
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Wonder what happened to the Tri-city stuff?
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Wonder what happened to the Tri-city stuff?
Leicester decided to go it alone: https://www.insidermedia.com/news/mi...-of-devolution

Derby and Nottingham are working closely together in D2N2 and the Derby-Nottingham metro strategy.
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Old October 2nd, 2019, 04:32 PM   #7
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I thought the devolution plans were halted by disagreements over having an Elected Mayor? Also there were issues with Tory Counties and Labour Cities...

Local Enterprise Partnerships and Metro Strategies are not a regional solution for the East Midlands.
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Old October 2nd, 2019, 04:54 PM   #8
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I thought the devolution plans were halted by disagreements over having an Elected Mayor? Also there were issues with Tory Counties and Labour Cities...
That was when councils in Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire were trying to become a metro mayor area. Leicester had already bailed by then.

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Local Enterprise Partnerships and Metro Strategies are not a regional solution for the East Midlands.
Correct, but it's hard to work out a solution if Leicester thinks it's better off alone.
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Those links are a bit out of date. The latest situation is that the counties of Leicestershire, Lincolnshire, Derbyshire and Nottinghamshire along with the cities of derby . Leicester and Nottingham are still working on a wider devolution deal
https://www.insidermedia.com/news/mi...on-deal-agreed
There is a sticking point around having an elected mayor - none of them want one but the current govt legislation is that they are required. The east mids have made their case that elected mayors might suit a smaller urban metro area but not a larger mixed urban/rural area with no real centre like ours.

Javid has just announced there will be further Devo plans which might suit the east mids better. We will have to wait for the white paper. The papers I have seen regarding the emerging national industrial strategy certainly includes counties as a vital ingredient for rebalancing the economy . This is a subtle change to the osbourne ethos of prioritising the big cities.

The Derby - Nottingham metro strategy didn’t really get much traction with just one borough council signing up. It was seen as a ‘labour’ city idea and the predominantly Tory districts were suspicious. It still exists in theory but not much is being done since Derby city turned Tory.

There is also tensions between the counties and the districts with some at the county level wanting to get rid of the districts completely. At the moment the districts are playing along with the counties who are driving the current devo deal because if the wider east mids devo deal fails then it is considered likely the cities of Nottingham and Derby will then challenge the existing local council boundaries to create an enlarged Nottingham city council and the same with derby city and south Derbyshire . If that happens it is likely the county councils will seek to take over the remaining areas getting rid of the district/borough councils completely to create single Unitary councils.
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That link doesn't really suggest that the cities are signed up to this idea...?

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Leicester's elected city mayor, Sir Peter Soulsby , said he was aware talks had taken place and the move was being discussed.

He added: "I think this is one of those idea that get discussed at some length, but I have some doubts it will come to anything.

"Combined authorities were a big issue a couple of years ago but the momentum behind it seems to have faded."
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Nottingham City Council leader Councillor Jon Collins said: “We are aware that tiers of authorities in the East Midlands have been looking at configurations for a combined authority for some time now but there is nothing to suggest that achieving this is anywhere near close."
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Yes agreed, it is the counties that are behind the current plans.
The D2N2 LEP area has just won an important victory on keeping its geography intact with Bessetlae, Chesterfield , Bolsover and North east Derbyshire districts all agreeing to remain in the D2N2 area as opposed to splitting off into the Sheffield City Region
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And getting Lincolnshire involved is seen as key in keeping Leicestershire interested.
But yes the cities are less enthusiastic and are seeing how things go.
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Old October 3rd, 2019, 11:30 AM   #12
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An interesting idea that Nottingham was planning to expand its boundaries. Wouldn't that change the political character of the city council? Are all the surrounding suburbs more Conservative than the city?
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Related news story to Nottingham City border change
https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/...nd-2190904.amp
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An interesting idea that Nottingham was planning to expand its boundaries. Wouldn't that change the political character of the city council? Are all the surrounding suburbs more Conservative than the city?
Pretty much. (Gedling is still Labour.)

As it stands, the Labour cities want to expand into the Tory boroughs and county and the Tory boroughs/county don't want them to. I'm not sure that means any progress is possible any time soon.
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Old October 3rd, 2019, 07:07 PM   #15
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Politically, boundary expansion would not suit either party.

But it would be better for Nottingham generally; as it would be for Leicester too.
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Mixed business confidence for the Midlands.


www.insidermedia.com/insider/midlands/mixed-business-confidence-for-the-midlands
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