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Old September 15th, 2018, 01:12 AM   #21
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Never mind the civilization debate, then. My point was that when science/academia is very quick to dismiss something, it's usually for very good reasons. So much bullshit is being peddled these days, usually based on conjectures disproven a thousand times already, that most of them can be summarily dismissed unless they bring extraordinary evidence to the debate.
The problem is when it ceases to be for good reasons and becomes a matter of interests.


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Saturn being like a sun in historic times is one of those obviously bullshit conjectures. How do you move a planet of almost 100 Earth masses from near Earth's solar orbit (~1 AU) to an orbit 10 AU away from the sun within a few thousand years, without disrupting the balance of the solar system to a degree we'd still be seeing traces of today, without destroying the planet in question or everything around it, and without this transition period ever being mentioned in the historical record? For a start, you'd have to set everything we know about physics aside, and that bodes badly for the credibility of your conjecture. What's more likely, that all we know about physics is wrong, or that a few people interpreted stick figure drawings incorrectly and let their imagination fill in the blanks? Hopefully, you can see why you draw so much ridicule here.
Trial and error is a fundamental method of problem solving, that is how science evolves. And very often partly wrong ideas gave origin to grate advances, scientific progress is cumulative in nature.
The stick figures are actually the most interesting part. I don't believe that they are the result of the supposed movement of the planets but could well be the result of a major solar wind event, something like the polar lights, but observed on a global scale. If the earth's magnetic field was weakened at the time, the earth could have been bombarded with huge amounts of hot plasma, and who knows how the ancients would have interpret those events.
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Old September 15th, 2018, 06:53 AM   #22
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Well, Galileo was also once considered a loony.
All crazy people like to think they are missunderstood and oppressed like Galileo. Trust me you are nothing like Galileo. You are not under arrest. The church or government has not seized your properties. You are just presenting a wacky idea on the internet. One that can easily be debunked, and well... people respond to wackiness with wacky reactions.
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