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Old June 19th, 2016, 10:07 AM   #621
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Old February 5th, 2018, 10:51 PM   #622
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This thread is so depressing and sad.

So much history was lost in Europe and part of asia.

**** wars.
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Old February 5th, 2018, 11:25 PM   #623
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This thread is so depressing and sad.

So much history was lost in Europe and part of asia.

**** wars.
The wars were bad but modernism probably did more damage to historical city fabrics than hundreds of millions of tonnes of bombs being dumped on europe. Yes some cities like berlin and warsaw and dresden were thoroughly obliterated by war but for instance london was much more damaged by modernism than bombings.

Europe would still be a thoroughly beautiful continent if modernism hadn't taken hold, and it'd even be getting more beautiful if gothic and classical styles of architecture had remained prevalent
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Old February 6th, 2018, 12:46 PM   #624
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This thread is so depressing and sad.

So much history was lost in Europe and part of asia.

**** wars.
I would say, **** those who start/wage them.
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Old February 6th, 2018, 01:50 PM   #625
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This thread is so depressing and sad.

So much history was lost in Europe and part of asia.

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I would say, **** those who start/wage them.
And that's everybody, you know.
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Old February 6th, 2018, 03:02 PM   #626
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Well.... I can with 100% honesty state i've never started a war or waged one.
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Old February 7th, 2018, 03:28 AM   #627
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Glogow (Glogau)







The rebuilt city center now:




Good to see beautiful German cities being rebuilt.
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Old February 7th, 2018, 08:09 AM   #628
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Good to see beautiful German cities being rebuilt.

Not this one...
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Well, it is not a good example to follow, maybe with exception of city hall (rathaus) reconstructed in 94-96 (see on the right). The other probably good news from Głogˇw (Glogau) is starting reconstruction of city theater.
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Old February 7th, 2018, 10:20 AM   #630
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Good to see beautiful German cities being rebuilt.
This city is in poland or germany?
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This city is in poland or germany?
This city is in EU
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Glogau was a German city for centuries before 1945. Very good friends of my family lived in Glogau, and the mother and four children (along with thousands of others) fled on foot in early February 1945, heading west. All they had was the clothes they were wearing and one wheel barrow of food and supplies. One child became very ill and simply could not continue the onward, so the mother found a barn for shelter for a few days. Had the kid not become ill and their journey had proceeded as planned, they would have been in Dresden when it was bombed. They were over 100 miles from Dresden and could see the red glow in the western skies for several nights.
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Old February 8th, 2018, 12:25 PM   #633
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So what! Practically ALL of my polish friends has family stories of relatives being shot or killed in many different ways with no reason (sometimes simply for fun) by GERMANS during WW II. So please, stop whining and suggesting that responsibility for this war and it's atrocities belongs EQUALLY to everybody (all nations) because it's not f... true!
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So what! Practically ALL of my polish friends has family stories of relatives being shot or killed in many different ways with no reason (sometimes simply for fun) by GERMANS during WW II. So please, stop whining and suggesting that responsibility for this war and it's atrocities belongs EQUALLY to everybody (all nations) because it's not f... true!
You need to calm down. Keepthepast was responding to Wakka12's question on whether Glogau was German or Polish, and shared an interesting personal anecdote. He said nothing about the the involved parties being equally responsible for atrocities. In fact, he didn't even mention the Poles.
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Glogow (Glogau)

The rebuilt city center now:

While i really apreciate the attemp to rebuild a lost city, i am shocked by the amateurishness way its done. This is more like a "best of polish candy Postmodernism" than any proper rebuilding and when i take a look on what the city looked like its really getting heavy polonised.

















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Old February 9th, 2018, 01:25 PM   #636
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Old February 9th, 2018, 01:27 PM   #637
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Yeah, the rebuilding in Glogow reminds me of what they've done in Elbing. While it's probably better than anything else they could have done, I'm not really big on post-modernism. The reconstruction here also fails to capture the haphazardness of the original oldtown — everything is very straight and looks like a modern housing estate from above.

I see it as sort of a missed opportunity. The facade is usually a small cost relative to the entire structure — so if you're going to all the effort of rebuilding, why not just make it a bit more historically authentic?

I'd rather have half as many rebuilt structures so long as they were quality.
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Old February 9th, 2018, 01:40 PM   #638
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The old town was completely destroyed during the fighting in 1945. Glogau/Głogˇw was among the most, if not was the most destroyed city in the present-day Poland, more destroyed than Breslau/Wrocław or Danzig/Gdańsk, probably expcept Warsaw takin into consideration the area. The provincial town, which does not have such monuments as mentioned above bigger cities, was not treated as a priority during the post-war reconstruction. The construction of the "new old town" is quite widely criticized in Pl, for a number of reasons, from aesthetics to urban planning. It is, however, quite cheap housing in a not specially wealthy country. I can not see in this new built city district, somthing like "polonization" because in this place almost no German residential houses over 2 m high rubble were left.
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This thread is so depressing and sad.

So much history was lost in Europe and part of asia.

**** wars.
Compared to Asia, European ancient architecture are very well-preserved.
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Old May 23rd, 2019, 02:58 AM   #640
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Budapest. Pre-war (Hauszmannian) design of the Royal Palace


Erzsebet Bridge (demolished in the 50's)


Bridge pylon's finial


Ruined gateway pylons


and a little rotunda near its base
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