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Old July 16th, 2008, 03:45 AM   #41
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As a Londoner I have to say I find walking around these towns very depressing as the architecture (what architecture?) is very painful to view.
Well, looking at the British Commieblock thread, it looks like you have plenty of commieblocks yourselves. They even appear to be much taller than the Swedish blocks on average, possibly more run down too. Not saying that our commieblocks are any more beautiful, but we're not the only ones who built them.

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I don't rate cheap plastic for flooring, tiny boxy rooms with barely enough room for a double bed let alone much else, low ceilings, echoey interiors and concrete stairwells.
Parquet flooring here, linoleum flooring in the kitchen and bedrooms (which is environmentally friendly and very easy to clean and comes in a variety of colours and patterns).. The interiors are only echoey until you've furnished the rooms. Well, it doesn't comapre to a big, newly built suburban house, I don't think anyone is trying to say that.. But the cost is like.. hmm.. 1/10th for a true 70's "commieblock" apartment in the suburbs.. Removing these commieblocks would leave a lot of families that can not afford to own a detached house, homeless.. What's worse, homelessness and shanty towns, or plastic flooring and standardized window shelves?

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I often wonder how complete families can live in such cramped spaces where three rooms totalling 70 square meters is the norm.
The typical two-bedroom apartment is between 70 and 85 sq meters. I think this is enough for a couple with one child. If the parents share a bedroom, the child can have a room of his/her own. Families with two children should have a three-bedroom apartment (90 - 110 sq meters), IMO. That way, both children can have a room of their own, which is very important.

The problems begin when poor families with lots of children move into small apartments, sometimes even bringing their relatives - it's impossible for the children to concentrate on their homework, for example, when they have to share the room with two or three noisy siblings. This results in children taking to the streets at an early age, simply to get out of the cramped, crowded apartment.

Another problem is that inner-city apartments in the bigger cities of Sweden are extremely expensive - most people I know who live anywhere near central Stockholm live in tiny apartments of between 20 and 35 sq meters.. For the price they paid for these "shoeboxes", you could easily buy two big houses in rural Sweden

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Old August 5th, 2008, 06:47 PM   #42
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I just know that it is very hard for the majority of the Swedes to say something bad in their country because they honnestly believe that Sweden is the best country in the world.
This is so true. Interesting that an outsider has noticed it too.
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Old August 8th, 2008, 12:28 PM   #43
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Some more footage from my 'hood, courtesy of our local "gangsta rappers"

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I just know that it is very hard for the majority of the Swedes to say something bad in their country because they honnestly believe that Sweden is the best country in the world.
Well, I don't think that is a trait unique to Swedes. Everyone gets a little defensive when it's their own country that's being criticised. But I don't mind critique of Sweden, as long as it's fair(and aimed at the socialists!). Clearly we Swedes have a lot to be proud about too. But as I said, mention to an American the meddling in South America and he'll be angry, say to a Russian that communism might not be the best system and he'll go ape shit and if you say that the Arabs haven't achieved anything in the last 700 years the Bulgarians will call you a 5 year old hateful racist.(yeah, I don't get that last one either)

Besides, If you are a socialist who wants to justify the highest tax rates in the world, wouldn't you also want the people to believe your system is the best in the world?
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Old August 10th, 2008, 10:24 AM   #45
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Nice repair work done on those. I think I saw some with marble or granite pavement. That's the way to go. Commies will prevail
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Old August 13th, 2008, 09:58 PM   #46
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Abandoned commieblocks as a result of closed down mining activity in rural Sweden (new pitctures)
http://www.jornmark.se/places_intro....d=167&lang=eng

What's funny is that some of the kitchens in those apartments looks exactly identical to the kitchen of my apartment in prosperous Uppsala (allthough my cupboard doors etc. are newer/more modern, the actual layout is identical).

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Old August 13th, 2008, 10:08 PM   #47
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Thats like a ghost town
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Old November 24th, 2008, 01:34 AM   #48
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Huge commieblock areas in the outskirts of Malmö. Photo taken they were brand new, in the beginning of the 70s.

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Old January 3rd, 2009, 02:47 AM   #49
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Some stockholm commies can be found here:

https://www.skyscrapercity.com/showpo...&postcount=302
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Old January 17th, 2009, 03:16 AM   #50
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Well, looking at the British Commieblock thread, it looks like you have plenty of commieblocks yourselves. They even appear to be much taller than the Swedish blocks on average, possibly more run down too.
Yes these buildings are known as British council estates where no-one wants to live and only a very small percentage of the population does. Thankfully these buildings are not found on mass everywhere. What you don't seem to understand is that such buildings are not standard housing in the UK, however in Sweden it is rare to find someone who isn't living in a commieblock. The country is blighted with them. In the uk it is the poor who have to live in these things. Thankfully they are not in practically every street in vast quantities and are not the only type of building in said street, unlike in Sweden and as such one can avoid looking at them on a daily basis.

Having said that, I appreciate that people who have lived all their lives with the existence of these blocks in their vast numbers do not find grey slabs of concrete a depressing sight and might even enjoy the fact the entire country resembles what to me appears to be one massive council estate. No-one is saying that Sweden is the only place where these things exist, the point is that people expect to see this buildings in these numbers in old Eastern Europe but not in Sweden, after all Sweden is utopia isn't it?
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Old January 17th, 2009, 10:27 PM   #51
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And well managet commieblock district can provide utopian quality of life with trees and flowers instead of dull streets with lots of cars and little sunlight...
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Old January 24th, 2009, 10:07 PM   #52
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Retroglobe is a site featuring boring postcards, not surprisingly most of them are from Sweden. Here are some postcards from the 50ies and 60ies:

Gothenburg





Jönköping


Karlskoga


Skärholmen


Handen


Skellefteå


Uddevalla


Fagersta


Eskilstuna


Flen


Tranås


Värnamo


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Old June 16th, 2009, 10:07 PM   #53
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I lived in this commieblock in Märsta a town in Stockholm metropolitan area.

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Old August 12th, 2009, 12:44 PM   #54
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I live in Stockholm (as a Belgian) in a suburb and I have to say that I am still shocked that there are so many commieblocks in this city. I also have to say that the ones who have been posted here are by far the nicer ones.

Many of them are just gray without any colours and variation. It was shocking the first time I came in Sweden, I thought I was in Poland.
There is nothing strange with that scince we have a lot of poor and black people in Swden. The government knows that they have to put them somewhere, sad but true
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Old August 12th, 2009, 08:09 PM   #55
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It is so boring to see here the complaints of people from GB, NL, BE etc that the commies of SE are not satisfying their "highest" standards . It is only because of your habits, nothing else.
I lived 2 years in NL, visited BE and Scotland, lived 2 years in Denmark and visited many times SE and can say that Swedish commies are of nice quality.
Private houses in NL and BE looks nice. And that is all. Half of them have permanent terrible smell inside of something, God knows what, as they are very old, and people simply do not have time to take proper care on them. I would better live in a Swedish commie than in a private cardboard Belgium house, which is normally in the middle of nowhere, expensive and with lots of problems inside. Belgium cities composed from those private houses in a whole seem very chaotic. In contrast, Swedish cities are very compact and everything is smartly organized.
English houses for normal people are most frequently jokes with "astronomic" prices :-).
And also Belgium and Dutch guys do not think you are much better than polish. A bit higher income is probably the only difference between ... :-)
Sorry for this emotional post but, really, don't complain, you are not better.
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Old August 12th, 2009, 10:06 PM   #56
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I think we as commieblock inhabitants were not honest at all.

There are lot of problems with commieblocks! As nice and functional as they may seem to us, the extremely high density of ppl living in such blocks is associated to a lot of trouble. You might have living some psychotic stranger just next door and you wonder yourself why isn't there somebody who just kicks those freaks out of the block. I'm not sure how to solve this porblem rather am I aware why commieblocks are something like a magnet for unemployed non-well behaved people who think they can do whatever they like to. Maybe it is just a impression of mine because so many ppl live here but in the end I can say, it is not the best place to live, because commieblocks here in Germany just lack the higher percantage of "normal" ppl living in the blocks.

So lets say, you might not be better person if you don't live in a commieblock but there is definitely a much nicer place to live out there.
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Well to be honest I'm living in a commieblock distirct whole my life and quality of life is actually above averege I would say it's clean and green with lots of trees etc. I don't know all people from my block(10 storey) but I know people from my floor it's not that many of them anyway it all depends but even the longest ones usually have many separate entries so it's not that different from living in a traditional street.
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Old August 14th, 2009, 11:10 PM   #58
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There are lot of problems with commieblocks! As nice and functional as they may seem to us, the extremely high density of ppl living in such blocks is associated to a lot of trouble. You might have living some psychotic stranger just next door and you wonder yourself why isn't there somebody who just kicks those freaks out of the block. I'm not sure how to solve this porblem rather am I aware why commieblocks are something like a magnet for unemployed non-well behaved people who think they can do whatever they like to. Maybe it is just a impression of mine because so many ppl live here but in the end I can say, it is not the best place to live, because commieblocks here in Germany just lack the higher percantage of "normal" ppl living in the blocks.
Ok, maybe there are problems in Germany and other countries but why are they associated with commieblocks? For example in Poland I can't see any similar problems to these from the western countries. People live in huge 10 or even 16-storey blocks of flats and I don't think the're unhappy or something...

I used to live in one of them for 14 years in a district covered almost only with commieblocks from late 80's. Now I live in far suburbs of the city and I must say, if I could I would move back to a commieblock even tommorow, I'd do it with pleasure.
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I think the differnence to the Czech Republic or Slovakia (thats where I have at least some experience) or other eastern europe countries is that living in commieblocks is common to most of the ppl.

Police has to visit my block at least one time per week because somebody got beaten up or some freaks have turned up their music too loud. If you just have enough money then you move out of german commieblock districts. And I am not sure if this process is also happening already in East-Europe as well. It is really sad that (east)german commieblock districts are just in this desolate situation where nobody feels responsible for what is happening in those blocks, because no other neighbourhood could come up with such a rich infrastructure.
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Why do you think it is like that? Was transformation too fast or is it because of the immigrants
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