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Old January 23rd, 2019, 04:01 PM   #1
Chris B
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Surface Car Parks in Liverpool

Inspired by this article - https://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/new...ity-car-parks/ - from PNW about the amount of surface car parks in Manchester in 2009 compared to now, I thought I'd see how Liverpool has fared over the same period.

A few notes -

- I've used the generally accepted boundary of the city centre as Leeds Street, the Byrom Street/Hunter Street/Islington/Low Hill/Grove Street corridor, and Parliament Street. I know we have several developments pushing that outwards these days, but that wasn't the case ten years ago, and I wanted to make a fair comparison.

- What counts as a surface car park? Is it fair to count a university car park, but not one attached to a hotel? Honestly, this is a bit of a judgement call based on the likelihood of redevelopment and their size. It's unlikely a hotel would redevelop its car park, but the university might (and indeed has been known too). I've also disregarded very small car parks. The university campus is littered with them and while it would be nice to include everything, there has to be a line somewhere. I don't expect everyone will necessarily agree with this determination of what counts and what doesn't, but I think I've covered all the major surface car parks, and a lot of others, so I think it's still a fair assessment of the situation in 2009 and today.

- It might look like I've missed a few obvious ones off the redeveloped list but actually they weren't around in 2009 and have already been redeveloped, so don't appear on any list here. These include The Paramount, the Art Apartments, and the Brickland Development on Blundell Street. This explains why the 'New since 2009' list feels light, as we have seen more surface car parks open up since then, but they have already gone.

So where were we in 2009. Here's what I came up with -

Extant in 2009

1. NCP, Pall Mall
2. Land at Old Leeds Street
3. Corner of Great Crosshall Street/Johnson Street
4. Corner of Great Crosshall Street/Byrom Street
5. Corner of Islington/Camden Street
6. Corner of Islington/Norton Street
7. Clifford Street car park
8. Craven Street car park
9. Kempston Street car park
10. Corner of Islington/Devon Street
11. Corner of Erskine Street/Moss Street
12. Land at Low Hill
13. Corner of Low Hill/West Derby Street
14. Corner of West Derby Street/Crown Street
15. West Derby Street opposite Crown Street
16. University car park off Crown Street
17. Land at Grove Street/Cambridge Street
18. Corner of Grove Street/Myrtle Street
19. Vine Street car park
20. Corner of Hope Street/Myrtle Street
21. Corner of Dale Street/Hatton Garden
22. NCP, Smithfield Street
23. NCP, Tithebarn Street
24. Land between Moorfields/Tempest Hey
25. Corner of Chapel Street/Rumford Street
26. Corner of Brunswick Street/Drury Lane
27. Victoria Street car park
28. NCP, Red Cross Street
29. NCP, The Strand
30. Former Central Station High Level
31. Corner of Skelhorne Street/Bolton Street
32. Land at Russell Street
33. Corner of Park Lane/Liver Street
34. Corner of Seel Street/Slater Street
35. Corner of Duke Street/Slater Street
36. Corner of Duke Street/Kent Street
37. Opposite Concert Street, Seel Street
38. Riverside, Kings Dock
39. Corner of Monarch's Quay/Halftide Wharf
40. Corner of Monarch's Quay/Queens Wharf
41. King Park, Kings Dock Street
42. Land to the rear of Norfolk House II
43. Corner of Price Street/Canning Place
44. Corner of Prescot Street/Daulby Street
45. Land at Upper Hope Place
46. Land at Roscoe Street

Since then, a number of surface car parks have been redeveloped -

Redeveloped since 2009

1. Corner of Great Crosshall Street/Byrom Street (Byrom Point)
2. Victoria Street car park (Victoria Street MSCP)
3. NCP, Red Cross Street (The Strand Travelodge)
4. NCP, The Strand (21 Strand Street)
5. Opposite Concert Street, Seel Street (Seel Street Hotel by Epic)
6. Riverside, Kings Dock (Exhibition Centre Liverpool)
7. Corner of Monarch's Quay/Halftide Wharf (New Kings Dock MSCP)
8. Corner of Skelhorne Street/Bolton Street (Horizon Heights)
9. Land at Russell Street (Sensor City)
10. Corner of Islington/Norton Street (Calico)
11. Corner of Islington/Devon Street (The Fabric Village)
12. Land at Low Hill (NHS MSCP)
13. Corner of Low Hill/West Derby Street (New Royal Liverpool University Hospital)
14. Corner of Grove Street/Myrtle Street (Vine Court)
15. Vine Street car park (Vine Square)
16. Corner of Hope Street/Myrtle Street (NCH Capital)
17. Corner of West Derby Street/Crown Street (Apex 2)
18. West Derby Street opposite Crown Street (Clatterbridge Cancer Centre Liverpool)
19. Corner of Price Street/Canning Place (Chancery House new build)
20. Corner of Prescit Street/Daulby Street (Life Sciences Accelerator)
21. Land at Upper Hope Place (Electra)
22. Land at Roscoe Street (Liverpool Community College)

Unfortunately we have gained a few new ones, which we currently still have -

New since 2009

1. Gap site at Old Haymarket
2. Corner of Pall Mall/Prussia Street
3. Corner of Brownlow Hill/Hawke Street
4. Corner of St. James Street/Greenland Street
5. Land at Bridgewater Street, near KFC
6. Corner of St. James Street/Blundell Street

So ten years ago we had 46 surface car parks in the city centre. Over the last decade 22 of those have been dealt with, but we've gained another six. That means in ten years we have a net loss of 16 car parks, leaving us will 30 current surface car parks.

Of those 30 however, the following have been subject to planning applications or otherwise have redevelopment schemes in the works -

1. NCP, Pall Mall (Pall Mall Exchange)
2. Land at Old Leeds Street (Ovatus I)
3. Corner of Erskine Street/Moss Street (partially, Everbright Development)
4. Corner of Brunswick Street/Drury Lane (CRC Development)
5. Former Central Station High Level (Circus)
6. Corner of Park Lane/Liver Street (One Park Lane)
7. Corner of Duke Street/Kent Street (StayCity Apart-hotel)
8. Corner of Monarch's Quay/Queens Wharf (Noddy's Call Centre/Apartments)
9. Corner of St. James Street/Greenland Street (St. James Court)

Which takes us down to 21 in place with no plans. Not perfect of course, but actually I think we've done alright in the last ten years, ridding ourselves of over 20, more when including those that have been and gone in the interim. There is still work to be done of course, but there's been some solid progress I think.
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Old January 23rd, 2019, 06:53 PM   #2
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Excellent work Chris.

As I said on the Crane Count thread, this is another indicator of the Liverpool economy along with the number of cranes on the skyline. When I studied Planning many years ago, land use was seen as one of the key indicators of a cities wealth, with the local plan being the arbitrator i.e. if it was planned as a surface car park then it should be indicated as such.

Planned surface car parks as a feature of any development i.e. a school, hospital, hotel, office development etc.. should not be included as many local authorities require off street parking provision to gain planning.

Another issue which I see with many conurbations is that the numbers of surface car parks hasn't really changed that much in the last ten years, what has happened is that they have moved further out as the city has grown and developed sites. This has happened in Liverpool since the year of culture and Liverpool 1 went up.

Apart from surface car parks, Liverpool still suffers in having too many poorly utilised or non utilised pieces of land (e.g. the Kingston House site on the corner of James Street and the Strand, the old Norton Site and the corner of Hill Street and Sefton Street).

These are sites which are being 'land banked' - where the owner is doing nothing until the market changes. Occasionally a proposal is made but sometimes this is purely to add value to the site (e.g. the Queens Tower site in front of the X1 Tower, which I seem to remember having planning at one time) for the period in which the approval is valid.
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