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Old June 24th, 2012, 10:45 PM   #121
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Apologies for my dark view of the world but surely that is going to be a suicide hotspot? Is it safe to have a Metro stop above one of the busiest roads in the City?
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Old June 24th, 2012, 11:52 PM   #122
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For all platforms, you have to go down the new Metro stairs/Lift through the 'back' part of the new Snow Hill Entrance and back up to the platform required. Otherwise you'd physically have to cross the tracks which of course is unsafe. Not sure if there are any access points between the Metro & Heavy rail platforms or not, but they're surely going to be at different heights.
So is there a door at the back of the new entrance concourse, then?

For changing platform, it's no worse than many main line stations, I guess. However, as discussed already, Snow Hill Metro really won't be for accessing the main part of the city centre any more (i.e. the "right" side of Great Charles Street) as doing so will mean the same trek across the road that it used to mean for people going the other way who wanted the main line station before the new entrances were built. Metro passengers won't be able to use the main entrance of Snow Hill mainline station as they can't access the main platforms and walk along them due to the ticket barriers.
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Old June 25th, 2012, 01:35 AM   #123
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Yes, the new metro stop is really solely for interchange with the Snow Hill platforms (the platforms being a fair distance from the actual Colmore Row entrance). I don't think Bull Street is too bad a compromise, but I'd have liked a stop closer to Colmore Row too. That might be too many stops though.

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Apologies for my dark view of the world but surely that is going to be a suicide hotspot? Is it safe to have a Metro stop above one of the busiest roads in the City?
Forgive me for being blunt but why, when they can "just" jump in front of a train?
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Old June 25th, 2012, 03:41 PM   #124
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Yes, the new metro stop is really solely for interchange with the Snow Hill platforms (the platforms being a fair distance from the actual Colmore Row entrance). I don't think Bull Street is too bad a compromise, but I'd have liked a stop closer to Colmore Row too. That might be too many stops though.



Forgive me for being blunt but why, when they can "just" jump in front of a train?
A choice of tram, train or cars. Truly a multi-modal interchange!
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Old June 25th, 2012, 08:00 PM   #125
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Old June 26th, 2012, 11:32 AM   #126
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QUOTE=DBadger;92683928]Yes, the new metro stop is really solely for interchange with the Snow Hill platforms (the platforms being a fair distance from the actual Colmore Row entrance). I don't think Bull Street is too bad a compromise, but I'd have liked a stop closer to Colmore Row too. That might be too many stops though.



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bull street ,its on way that the metro will run ,and is just a stones throw from snow hill station . a tram stop could be built here to serve the shops.


loking away from snow hill




looking towards snow hill

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Old June 26th, 2012, 12:52 PM   #127
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I suppose those trees will be removed. But otherwise a great spot for a central tramstop with lines either side.
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Old June 26th, 2012, 01:43 PM   #128
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Here is an image we have seen before ; the trees are still there . I'd have thought they would be removed.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/centro-...57628913672357
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Old June 26th, 2012, 03:14 PM   #129
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as nacho has shown, a stop will be going on bull street
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Old June 26th, 2012, 08:30 PM   #130
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Um. Yeah. Come on guys. I put an image of the stops on the previous page. That's exactly where the Bull Street stop is going to go!
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Old June 28th, 2012, 05:50 AM   #131
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Does anyone know if they'd considered the original Snow Hill stop for peak time operation. In some ways this might make more sense for those that need to get straight to the office developments or for those that very quickly need to meet with connecting trains at the head of the station - those services maybe wouldn't need to stop at, what I'd call, 'Snowhill St Chads'.

It could be called 'Snow Hill Colmore Row' with 20-30% of services stopping here at peak times... kind of similar to how Chiltern alternates it's trains between Snowhill and Moor street terminals.
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Old June 28th, 2012, 11:41 AM   #132
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remember that there will be a new station built at snow hill station which will connect directly into the station (well as directly as the current arrangements are anyway) plus also, when you factor in walking up stairs, and then down the glas corridor, id has a guess that the proposed bull street stop will actually be closer tocolmore row than te curent snow shill stop is!
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Old June 28th, 2012, 08:47 PM   #133
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No data or sources to back this up, but my hunch is that most of the people currently getting off at Snow Hill will use Bull Street instead, with new customers to the Metro making use of Corp Street & New Street.
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Old June 28th, 2012, 09:21 PM   #134
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I agree with that. New snow hill stop will serve people coming from hockley
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Old June 28th, 2012, 09:40 PM   #135
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The original station and it's approach are going to become Snow Hill platform 4 again, so no, it can't be used.
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Old June 28th, 2012, 11:34 PM   #136
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Here are the images i posted all the way back on June 19 2011 showing station on bridge.





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Old June 29th, 2012, 12:00 AM   #137
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I've always liked those images .

Without data at hand , when I arrive by Metro at Snow Hill , I get the impression that most people pass through the Great Western Arcade or cut through the church on their way to the New Street area.I feel the majority wouldn't get off at Snow Hill if they didn't have to .I think the Corporation St stop will one of the most used .
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Looking at this, I don't really see why people are so worried it won't work as an interchange. You walk down the stairs and into the Snow Hill entrance and you're up on the platform again! A footbridge would be nice though.
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Old June 29th, 2012, 10:10 AM   #139
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But looking at that last image it appears to indicate you can enter snow hill from the same side when in actual fact as things stand you would have to walk under the bridge and enter the other side surely?
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indeed... thats was a little balls-up which again has beset the second entrance to snowhill station....

the plan originally was to punch right through the bridge and have entrances both sides, but alas, one of the many things that was alters during this 5 year long project was cutting costs by only opening one entrance!!!

you will indeed need to walk undr the bridge to get into the station... not a long walk by any stretch of the imaging but a very short sites cost saving exercise indeed!
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