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Old December 8th, 2015, 05:11 PM   #121
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Just stupid decisions as the surrounding sites have planning for much taller schemes....


Will the new plans be under a new app? Or the old app?
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Old December 9th, 2015, 12:00 AM   #122
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Just stupid decisions as the surrounding sites have planning for much taller schemes....


Will the new plans be under a new app? Or the old app?
The sites in front of it which front a main arterial road into the city centre. The land all around it, bar Trident and sites fronting Broad Street do not have permission for schemes much taller. in fact much of the schemes fronting Broad Street no longer have valid permissions.

But let's ignore the facts.
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Old December 9th, 2015, 12:26 AM   #123
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So because the planning permission has lapsed for broad street tower, Lee long lands and the adjacent site not to mention the already built trident house this still has to be smaller?
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Old December 9th, 2015, 12:44 AM   #124
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Here's the new massing


The block behind it is the app that was approved for the site adjacent...


Tell me it doesn't look out of place?

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Old December 9th, 2015, 02:53 AM   #125
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So because the planning permission has lapsed for broad street tower, Lee long lands and the adjacent site not to mention the already built trident house this still has to be smaller?

I do get annoyed at developers not including enough parking, which seems to have been an issue here.
There is another other issue with this or counter argument though to still build tall in my opinion, negating the parking issue.
The site is less than 100 metres from a planned metro stop...
The council wants to encourage people onto public transport so why not build high around the routes and you can counter the parking requirement by outlining the excellent interlinked transport possibilities relating to the metro right outside.
All of that aside I have to agree with your massing outline Sefton, what is all that about, one year the council is all for talls around this area, the next year its all about "smalls", for me it simply would do no harm round here to encourage talls!
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Old December 9th, 2015, 08:51 AM   #126
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Yep. But we all know the planning officer never really visited the site. She said she did but really she ended up in John Lewis doing her chsitmas shopping. It's one of the most baffling decisions i've ever seen and one which I think is completely wrong. Areas like this are actually designated as highrise areas so to reduce something in height that's only 12 storeys is quite alarming and to do so on the basis of the street scene is even more alarming as either side of the site is highrises and on its east elevation is more car parks and run down sites.

I think this is one decision which will never make sense.
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Old December 9th, 2015, 01:01 PM   #127
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So because the planning permission has lapsed for broad street tower, Lee long lands and the adjacent site not to mention the already built trident house this still has to be smaller?
Doesn't have to be smaller but surrounding lapsed permission isn't a justification for building tall either. I would say the fact that tall buildings surround it mean separation distances from habitable room to habitable room become more important and being surrounded by tall buildings in close proximity becomes more of a hindrance.

Although i too think the decision was wrong in this case by the Council, i just try to explain a possible thought process.
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Old December 9th, 2015, 09:03 PM   #128
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Old December 9th, 2015, 09:04 PM   #129
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That's all this project deserves, what a shambles.
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Old December 10th, 2015, 02:53 PM   #130
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This was approved this time. Nothing too exciting.
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Old December 10th, 2015, 05:46 PM   #131
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Well let`s hope they build the damn thing , seeing as there`s been so much trouble over it.

It will at least replace a surface car park and bring some more life to a dead street. That`s got to be good news.
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Old December 11th, 2015, 12:43 AM   #132
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The approval no doubt has ramped up the value of the land....
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Old December 15th, 2015, 07:07 PM   #133
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Old December 15th, 2015, 08:20 PM   #134
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It's 6 storeys now belfast! Ta.
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Old March 16th, 2017, 09:28 AM   #135
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Article on the Birmingham Post website.

This site has been bought by Elevate who have also done Queensbury House, Hondura Wharf and Concord House. They now plan to build a six storey block with 40 loft style homes, all 2 bedroom, and 13 parking spaces.

It doesn`t look particularly nice but I`m not surprised considering their track record.
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Old March 16th, 2017, 10:38 AM   #136
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Birmingham flats plan back again
http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/busi...again-12745832

I don't like Honduras Wharf at the moment (unfinished) but I think their other developments have character.
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Old March 16th, 2017, 04:14 PM   #137
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Old March 16th, 2017, 04:29 PM   #139
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Old March 16th, 2017, 04:58 PM   #140
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Just glad it's brick, looked like it was going to be a diss start from the first sections we seen


The scale makes no sense though
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