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Old January 14th, 2020, 04:04 AM   #2221
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Hosting the 2030 Asian Games


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Old January 14th, 2020, 10:40 AM   #2222
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His estimate is quite low if where planning to host it outside metro manila. We need to spend roughly $7-10billion for sports facilities. But who cares spending $10billion in the next 9 years. (50billion/year) Government can handle that. Go for Asian Games 2030. ��️����
Kung may existing facility na, irenovate na lang. Kung wala, yun ang gawan. Ka-stress kung yung mga facilities ay nakatiwangwang lang pagkatapos ng Games, sayang pera.

Sa Paris 2024, 2% lang ng venues ang bago, the rest is existing. Sa Tokyo 2020, lahat ng gold sa lahat ng medals ay galing sa recycled materials from microelectronics. Ganun sana. Sustainability and positive contribution to the economy before, during and after the Games.
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Old January 14th, 2020, 11:19 AM   #2223
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Kung may existing facility na, irenovate na lang. Kung wala, yun ang gawan. Ka-stress kung yung mga facilities ay nakatiwangwang lang pagkatapos ng Games, sayang pera.

Sa Paris 2024, 2% lang ng venues ang bago, the rest is existing. Sa Tokyo 2020, lahat ng gold sa lahat ng medals ay galing sa recycled materials from microelectronics. Ganun sana. Sustainability and positive contribution to the economy before, during and after the Games.
Alot of olympic event is profitable. The only problem is how you will make your olympic park/city or facilities into a more sustainable and more economic friendly in the future. Maintenance cost is the main problem. Un lang naman ang additional incurred cost.

Kaya ideal is to host it in Metro Manila. We can create a 300 hectares olympic park and make it a new CBD in the future. (Same with what London did) and alot of renovation and installing of temporary facilities.
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Old January 14th, 2020, 12:42 PM   #2224
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Alot of olympic event is profitable. The only problem is how you will make your olympic park/city or facilities into a more sustainable and more economic friendly in the future. Maintenance cost is the main problem. Un lang naman ang additional incurred cost.
ALL olympic games are profitable. Even Brazil 2014 was profitable.

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Old January 14th, 2020, 02:35 PM   #2225
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Alot of olympic event is profitable. The only problem is how you will make your olympic park/city or facilities into a more sustainable and more economic friendly in the future. Maintenance cost is the main problem. Un lang naman ang additional incurred cost.

Kaya ideal is to host it in Metro Manila. We can create a 300 hectares olympic park and make it a new CBD in the future. (Same with what London did) and alot of renovation and installing of temporary facilities.
Isn't that what they're doing with Clark now?

Metro Manila is already crowded. Where will you get 300 hectares? And a new CBD? We have so many that are still being developed with high rises.
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Old January 14th, 2020, 03:01 PM   #2226
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ALL olympic games are profitable. Even Brazil 2014 was profitable.
2016*.

Airing rights + Sponsorship tibatiba na.
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Old January 14th, 2020, 03:05 PM   #2227
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2016*.

Airing rights + Sponsorship tibatiba na.
Yes. Broadcast + Sponsorship, minimum break even na.

Tickets sales mo all profits na.

Meron pa mga indirect na makikinabang sa airlines, hotels, food and beverages, and souvenirs.

Ang usual challenge is maintenance nung facilities after... This is not so much of a challenge for us because we actually have very few world-class sports facilities.
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Old January 14th, 2020, 03:57 PM   #2228
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Ang usual challenge is maintenance nung facilities after... This is not so much of a challenge for us because we actually have very few world-class sports facilities.
That's the problem. Wala tayong world-class sports facilities kaya hindi tayo makakapaghost ng Asian Games.
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Old January 14th, 2020, 04:39 PM   #2229
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That's the problem. Wala tayong world-class sports facilities kaya hindi tayo makakapaghost ng Asian Games.
We have a few -- MOA, Clark Athletics, Clark Aquatics, and maybe that Stadium near Phil Arena.

The recently renovated Philsports and RMS will need minor tweaks -- new HD screens, locker rooms, media center, etc., and will become world-class for some events like Volleyball and Gymnastics.

The others will be an opportunity to build from scratch.
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Alot of olympic event is profitable. The only problem is how you will make your olympic park/city or facilities into a more sustainable and more economic friendly in the future. Maintenance cost is the main problem. Un lang naman ang additional incurred cost.

Kaya ideal is to host it in Metro Manila. We can create a 300 hectares olympic park and make it a new CBD in the future. (Same with what London did) and alot of renovation and installing of temporary facilities.
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ALL olympic games are profitable. Even Brazil 2014 was profitable.
The Rio Olympics were a financial disaster and it keeps getting worse

"Nations around the world are becoming increasingly skeptical of the benefits of hosting the Olympics..."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.bus...isaster-2017-6
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Yes. Broadcast + Sponsorship, minimum break even na.

Tickets sales mo all profits na.

Meron pa mga indirect na makikinabang sa airlines, hotels, food and beverages, and souvenirs.

Ang usual challenge is maintenance nung facilities after... This is not so much of a challenge for us because we actually have very few world-class sports facilities.
Maintenance lang? What about profitability after the games? One-time big-time lang ganern.
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Old January 14th, 2020, 06:02 PM   #2232
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Alot of olympic event is profitable. The only problem is how you will make your olympic park/city or facilities into a more sustainable and more economic friendly in the future. Maintenance cost is the main problem. Un lang naman ang additional incurred cost.

Kaya ideal is to host it in Metro Manila. We can create a 300 hectares olympic park and make it a new CBD in the future. (Same with what London did) and alot of renovation and installing of temporary facilities.
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ALL olympic games are profitable. Even Brazil 2014 was profitable.
The Rio Olympics were a financial disaster and it keeps getting worse

"Nations around the world are becoming increasingly skeptical of the benefits of hosting the Olympics....."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.bus...isaster-2017-6
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The Rio Olympics were a financial disaster and it keeps getting worse



"Nations around the world are becoming increasingly skeptical of the benefits of hosting the Olympics....."



https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.bus...isaster-2017-6
You should have at least quoted the orig article and actually read it:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ion/102860310/

The article was all based on cost projections with NO revenue figures cited.

Basically they just added non-sports related costs such as a new subway and renovation of an entire city district, on top of the "budgeted" costs. They concluded that since sports + non-sports exceeded budget, therefore, it's a financial "disaster".

What I recognized earlier though was the danger of having "white elephants" after the games, which indeed has happened in Rio. This, however, I said is unlikely in our case because we are severely lacking of world-class sports facilities.
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Old January 14th, 2020, 07:54 PM   #2234
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Maintenance lang? What about profitability after the games? One-time big-time lang ganern.
If the venues are already paid for, then what's the problem?

Obviously, it's best if the venues are going to be used in the next 50-100yrs or whatever the lifespan of the venue is. But financially, if your event would have paid for the construction and operations during the games, then you've already good. Everything beyond that are all profits.
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Old January 14th, 2020, 08:04 PM   #2235
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Maintenance lang? What about profitability after the games? One-time big-time lang ganern.
Profitablity of sports facilities is somehow impossible.

Alot of sports venue after Olympic is not profitable. The only thing they can do is to make the area of the Olympic park/city more functional and profitable (not the sports facilities).

Like what rio miss the most. No after Olympics develop. Look what London(the most sustainable olympica ever to date) did, the create a community inside the olympic park. They even rented out the olympic stadium for a cheap price. Para lang magamit.
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Profitablity of sports facilities is somehow impossible.

Alot of sports venue after Olympic is not profitable. The only thing they can do is to make the area of the Olympic park/city more functional and profitable (not the sports facilities).

Like what rio miss the most. No after Olympics develop. Look what London(the most sustainable olympica ever to date) did, the create a community inside the olympic park. They even rented out the olympic stadium for a cheap price. Para lang magamit.
World-class stadiums are very profitable, especially in developed countries.

Here, MOA Arena and Araneta Coliseum are VERY profitable. I would bet Filoil and Ynares are as well. Perhaps soon, RMS will also be profitable.

The problem with Rio is that it has to build new ones in the City/Province where it's all about football, and the football clubs already have their own.

Again, very different in the PH setting.
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Old January 15th, 2020, 04:28 AM   #2237
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I suggest na isang cluster lang, a good reason to develop NCC more and build indoor venues there. But Manila can also host basketball events.

Magulo po talaga ang 2 clusters, nagkalituhan kami.
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I suggest na isang cluster lang, a good reason to develop NCC more and build indoor venues there. But Manila can also host basketball events.

Magulo po talaga ang 2 clusters, nagkalituhan kami.
The only problem with NCC is baka by that time (2030) wala pang masadong hotels and other facilities aside from the sports facilities the government will be building. Kaya the most ideal talaga is Metro Manila where existing facilities are already built. Renovation nalang at gawa ng olympic park ang kailangan gawin.
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shameless promotion po lol
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sa loob ng Rizal Sports Complex...
(you can see it sa una at huling part ng video)
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IMO the 2030 asian games should be held in Clark and Manila, parang sa SEA games lang
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