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Old March 25th, 2016, 01:50 PM   #141
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Old March 25th, 2016, 06:17 PM   #143
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How about you address me directly the next time you have something to say about me.
I don't even think it was you that proposed that. And why address people directly? There are lots of people posting with related ideas and different levels of support for them.

I am simply talking about undergrounding utilities as a way of improving the look of LA. Similarly, I don't like elevated rail, gondolas or the poles and towers that hold them up.
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Old March 26th, 2016, 04:44 AM   #144
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I like monorails. So suck it!

Because Los Angeles is older than most other cities in California, the LADWP is currently faced with several unique issues. Most of the power lines in Los Angeles were built above-ground before it became customary to run power lines below-ground; as a result, the horizon line of the typical Los Angeles boulevard looks much more cluttered than boulevards in most Southern California cities.

Starting in 2007, LADWP has a long-term project to upgrade the overhead power lines and convert them to underground. This difficult conversion has been slowed by budget constraints, the impact on traffic, the pursuit of other modernization projects, and the lingering effects of a workforce reduction over the last decade. Budget issues are particularly acute in the department's transmission system, where underground transmission costs about 10 to 14 times the cost of overhead transmission, per unit length, and the technical and environmental challenges which confront such installations.

Additionally, undergrounding of the three 500 kV transmission lines (five lines, if the Pacific AC Intertie's two 500 kV lines terminating in Los Angeles are included) is presently technically infeasible. Upgrading the overhead lines is expected to take 10 to 15 years. The upgrading of LADWP's overhead power lines consists of eliminating the V-shape brackets on the power poles that are holding up the crossarm and replacing them with cross-brackets that are put on the crossarm. Some of the wooden power poles are being replaced with metal poles.
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Old March 27th, 2016, 12:24 AM   #145
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Because Los Angeles is older than most other cities in California, the LADWP is currently faced with several unique issues. Most of the power lines in Los Angeles were built above-ground before it became customary to run power lines below-ground; as a result, the horizon line of the typical Los Angeles boulevard looks much more cluttered than boulevards in most Southern California cities.
There are cities throughout the world much older than LA that never allowed their streets to be covered with power poles. That was the case even back during the infancy of telephone service and electricity, when public utility systems were first being installed.

Even if the funds aren't available or are very limited right now, the talking heads in LA, including in the mayor's and council members' offices, should at least finally start complaining about one of the biggest forms of blight out there.

Streets full of poles and draped with wires exist in e.v.e.r.y section of the city, from the northern reaches of the San Fernando Valley all the way down to San Pedro.

The Edison Co's service territories are not much better, which is one reason many of the older Orange County communities along the LA County border have long made me think of Cletus Spuckler on the Simpsons.
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Old March 27th, 2016, 05:34 AM   #146
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The Edison Co's service territories are not much better, which is one reason many of the older Orange County communities along the LA County border have long made me think of Cletus Spuckler on the Simpsons.
Southern Califorania Edison's power lines are much nicer looking than LADWP's power lines.

Can the city of Los Angeles make a contract with Southern California Edison to serve electricity to the LA City section of the San Fernando Valley, so the residents of the SFV have a desire to leave LA City leadership instead of a secession from the city for independence?

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I have some information about the "Downtown Street Car - Project".
I spoke to my contact of the Environmental Management Group - Bureau of Engineering.

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The project is currently in the environmental review stage, with the
EIR being finalized for certification.

According to the schedule, Construction is estimated to start in early 2018,
and be completed in about 3 years.
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I spoke to the to my contact in the Environmental Management Group - Bureau of Engineering.

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Thanks, this is good news. This has really been quiet for some time.

It also has its own thread but there may not be enough activity yet to reactivate it.

Have Uber and Lyft made it superfluous for locals? Is it going to get any ridership if it isn't made cutesy for tourists (e.g., trolleys, old style cars).
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