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Old November 20th, 2013, 02:29 PM   #141
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By the way, here is another reason Nigeria will not become No.1 anytime soon (your people have no cars! Or decent public transport...). Car sales in major African countries for 2012:

1. South Africa - 623 914
2. Algeria - 433 000 (this really surprised me, way to go Algeria!)
3. Egypt - 200 000
4. Morocco - 130 000
5. Nigeria - 48 500
6. Tunisia - 37 132
7. Angola - 23 000
8. Namibia +/- 13 000
9. Kenya - 12 798

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New cars in Algeria are subsidized by the state. New cars are more cheaper their then in other neighbouring countries.
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Old November 20th, 2013, 08:36 PM   #142
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By the way, here is another reason Nigeria will not become No.1 anytime soon
The fixation surrounding the subject, must really be eroding on the consciousness of an increasing number of asphyxiated South Africans. Give your heart a break, take in some fresh air.



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(your people have no cars! Or decent public transport...). Car sales in major African countries for 2012:
1. South Africa - 623 914
Assuming I interpreted your point accurately-shouldn't be taken likely, as some of your kinsmen are renowned for their vacuity-perhaps, the dexterity that emphasises the impudence and cheekiness associated with attempting to indulge in derision, one can safely contend that, borrowing your annotation, (your people lack the sensibility of comprehension, or perhaps, redundant in analytical skills). In the spirit of the contextual argument that informed such contemptuously ridiculous premise as highlighted above, permit me to dissect the figures.

The figures for South Africa, of which amount are deducted a sizeable chunk as 300,000 units comprising of export sales. That indicates therefore, a much downwardly revised figure in the region of 300,000+ representing actual total sale within SA.

Meanwhile, Nigeria has constantly averaged a total car sale of 280,000 since 2008.
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It is estimated that the country spends around N550bn ($3.5bn) every year by importing vehicles – 80,000 new and 200,000 second-hand.
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Consequently, your obnoxiously boisterous attempt at indulging in infantile jingoistic jabbing simply serves to accentuate your twisted countenance; save to highlight the paucity of sage reasoning.
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Old November 20th, 2013, 10:30 PM   #143
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Old November 21st, 2013, 01:02 AM   #144
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Dude - step away from the Thesaurus! It can be dangerous when you don't know how to use it

Anyway, South Africa's new car market is about 10 times the size of Nigeria's, despite us having less than 1/3 the population!
That is staggering.
Even tiny Tunisia is almost up there with Nigeria - is it because your roads are in such poor condition, or what?
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Old November 21st, 2013, 02:29 AM   #145
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SOUTH AFRICA: Industrial action dents exports

By Dave Leggett | 7 November 2013
Industrial action in South Africa left its exports of vehicles down 75.1% in September.

South African auto industry trade association Naamsa also reported that there was some recovery in October as manufacturers resumed and normalised vehicle production from about the middle of the month. October export sales showed a decline of 15.1%.

Overall domestic vehicle sales declined by 2.9% in volume terms compared to the corresponding month last year.

Naamsa said that its original industry projection for 2013 of vehicle exports of 336,000 units was likely to be revised downwards to about 290 000 units for the year. It added that the momentum of vehicle exports should however improve in 2014 as export programmes are ramped up and ”particularly exports of light commercial vehicles were expected to increase substantially in the new year”.

Naamsa also said that the prevailing low interest rate environment should “lend some support to the domestic market together with replacement demand, the highly competitive trading environment, attractive incentives and high technology new model introductions”.

Export sales, it added, “would remain a function of the performance and direction of global markets with some regions notably North America, Africa and Asia offering above average growth opportunities”.
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Old November 21st, 2013, 03:46 AM   #146
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SOUTH AFRICA: Industrial action dents exports

By Dave Leggett | 7 November 2013
Industrial action in South Africa left its exports of vehicles down 75.1% in September.

South African auto industry trade association Naamsa also reported that there was some recovery in October as manufacturers resumed and normalised vehicle production from about the middle of the month. October export sales showed a decline of 15.1%.

Overall domestic vehicle sales declined by 2.9% in volume terms compared to the corresponding month last year.

Naamsa said that its original industry projection for 2013 of vehicle exports of 336,000 units was likely to be revised downwards to about 290 000 units for the year. It added that the momentum of vehicle exports should however improve in 2014 as export programmes are ramped up and ”particularly exports of light commercial vehicles were expected to increase substantially in the new year”.

Naamsa also said that the prevailing low interest rate environment should “lend some support to the domestic market together with replacement demand, the highly competitive trading environment, attractive incentives and high technology new model introductions”.

Export sales, it added, “would remain a function of the performance and direction of global markets with some regions notably North America, Africa and Asia offering above average growth opportunities”.
Yes, we had a month heavily affected by strikes. It happens. But as you can see from the bolded parts, momentum is picking up, exports are growing despite our setback, and even after this interruption, this was close to a record year for the domestic market.

Also, as I posted earlier, with the rail expansion/upgrade/restructure, we are seeing export bottlenecks removed.
So looks like we will be doing pretty well next year and into 2015.
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Old November 21st, 2013, 05:53 AM   #147
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Yes, we had a month heavily affected by strikes. It happens. But as you can see from the bolded parts, momentum is picking up, exports are growing despite our setback, and even after this interruption, this was close to a record year for the domestic market.

Also, as I posted earlier, with the rail expansion/upgrade/restructure, we are seeing export bottlenecks removed.
So looks like we will be doing pretty well next year and into 2015.

That what we hope for south Africa. It have a trained work force, great ingeneers but also a good market in south asia and australia .....

the problem is in zuma and ANC youths and all forms of leftist syndicates, or to make it simple the people in power.

the bottelneck in My opinion is when I see BMW and others have to export from mozambiq where there is a privet port with a capacity of 125 000 a years capacity, while Durban luck enough capacity. The other really bottelneck is work force, where again politics play a major roll.

the other problem is that 92% of export are to the US where south africa have free access where it save over 26% of customs since 1976 and that was renewen in 2001 with the objective of producing 1,2 million cars by 2010, the only problem is that the infrastructure didn't follow. The probleme is that the Obama administration don't want to renew this deal after 2015. So again it all depend on Zuma politicies.
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Old November 21st, 2013, 12:27 PM   #148
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That what we hope for south Africa. It have a trained work force, great ingeneers but also a good market in south asia and australia .....

the problem is in zuma and ANC youths and all forms of leftist syndicates, or to make it simple the people in power.

the bottelneck in My opinion is when I see BMW and others have to export from mozambiq where there is a privet port with a capacity of 125 000 a years capacity, while Durban luck enough capacity. The other really bottelneck is work force, where again politics play a major roll.

the other problem is that 92% of export are to the US where south africa have free access where it save over 26% of customs since 1976 and that was renewen in 2001 with the objective of producing 1,2 million cars by 2010, the only problem is that the infrastructure didn't follow. The probleme is that the Obama administration don't want to renew this deal after 2015. So again it all depend on Zuma politicies.
92% of exports to the U.S.? I'm sorry but what are you talking about? SA exports cars to the EU, Australia, Japan and the U.S. among others. A good 100 000 (around 20%) a year are exported to other African countries alone, and this is also our fastest growing export market, since no other country in SSA is manufacturing cars at any scale.
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 09:45 AM   #149
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That be right, you tell em, bro!

Actually, Nigeria is our biggest African market and growing fast, like Zambia and others. We are perfectly placed for this market, but even though we have a geographical disadvantage where the other international markets are concerned, we are still growing strongly.
Just wait and see the effect of Transnets successful transformation, and many other initiatives coming on line next year, like FAW's new production facility at Coega (big Chinese auto manufacturer)
This area of our very diverse economy is still to really hit its straps!
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Old November 22nd, 2013, 01:03 PM   #150
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New cars in Algeria are subsidized by the state. New cars are more cheaper their then in other neighbouring countries.
Where did you get that from ? it's the opposite actually, there are a lot of taxes on brand new cars.

The only advantage of Algeria is the Fuel/Gas price.
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Old November 23rd, 2013, 05:34 AM   #151
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Where did you get that from ? it's the opposite actually, there are a lot of taxes on brand new cars.

The only advantage of Algeria is the Fuel/Gas price.
In Morocco i can give you this example.

last year we imported a C-klasse of 2006 from Germany to Nador. At the costoms we had to pay 3.000€ This is with a 85% discount (some rule for retired people, King wanted no more old cars to be imported) ussually it cost around €15.000 to import that car. My cousin also imported at the same time a Range rover from 2008. He also used the discount rule (car on his mothers name) he had to pay 12.000€ at costums.
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The fixation surrounding the subject, must really be eroding on the consciousness of an increasing number of asphyxiated South Africans. Give your heart a break, take in some fresh air.





Assuming I interpreted your point accurately-shouldn't be taken likely, as some of your kinsmen are renowned for their vacuity-perhaps, the dexterity that emphasises the impudence and cheekiness associated with attempting to indulge in derision, one can safely contend that, borrowing your annotation, (your people lack the sensibility of comprehension, or perhaps, redundant in analytical skills). In the spirit of the contextual argument that informed such contemptuously ridiculous premise as highlighted above, permit me to dissect the figures.

The figures for South Africa, of which amount are deducted a sizeable chunk as 300,000 units comprising of export sales. That indicates therefore, a much downwardly revised figure in the region of 300,000+ representing actual total sale within SA.

Meanwhile, Nigeria has constantly averaged a total car sale of 280,000 since 2008.




Consequently, your obnoxiously boisterous attempt at indulging in infantile jingoistic jabbing simply serves to accentuate your twisted countenance; save to highlight the paucity of sage reasoning.
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