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Old July 26th, 2018, 02:10 PM   #1121
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So there would be more rooms.

Filling 100 rooms at 100 pound a night yields less money than filling 200 rooms at 55 pound a night.
Not necessarily true, infact likely not true at all.

Stocking, cleaning, maintaining and staffing for 100 additional rooms could just as likely result in a reduction in profit.

It also drops them into a more competitive budget market with lots of nearby cheaper run competitors who don't have the burden of costs that come with an old, prime, listed venue.

The leisure facilities would yield additional income from club members, day visitors etc...

hence why hotels provide leisure and conference facilities, bars, restaurants etc.. - it's additional sources of income.

The Hotel Du Vin does very well, but there's a shortage of top quality hotels and facilities in Birmingham, and there is definitely a demand for it. This is a missed opportunity if not done right. The old Central Hall development will hopefully make up some of the shortfall, and I notice the Swallow/Marriott at Fiveways is undertaking some work.
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Old September 24th, 2018, 11:29 PM   #1122
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Following on from this three months back http://www.constructionenquirer.com/...hotel-fit-out/

It's finally starting. The hotel fit out is about to begin. Graham Group are doing it
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Old September 25th, 2018, 01:37 AM   #1123
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no infinity pool though
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Old September 25th, 2018, 07:46 AM   #1124
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So there would be more rooms.

Filling 100 rooms at 100 pound a night yields less money than filling 200 rooms at 55 pound a night.
Not necessarily true, infact likely not true at all.

Stocking, cleaning, maintaining and staffing for 100 additional rooms could just as likely result in a reduction in profit.

It also drops them into a more competitive budget market with lots of nearby cheaper run competitors who don't have the burden of costs that come with an old, prime, listed venue.

The leisure facilities would yield additional income from club members, day visitors etc...

hence why hotels provide leisure and conference facilities, bars, restaurants etc.. - it's additional sources of income.

The Hotel Du Vin does very well, but there's a shortage of top quality hotels and facilities in Birmingham, and there is definitely a demand for it. This is a missed opportunity if not done right. The old Central Hall development will hopefully make up some of the shortfall, and I notice the Swallow/Marriott at Fiveways is undertaking some work.
There was something about the Louisa Ryland House hotel conversion in the Bham Post (I think) last week.
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Old October 11th, 2018, 09:28 PM   #1125
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Old October 12th, 2018, 10:40 AM   #1126
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Is this where Tattu is opening up? i wonder how they're getting on inside?

Along with Fazenda, this should really improve the area over the weekend period
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Old October 12th, 2018, 01:36 PM   #1127
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This whole area needs pedestrianising quickly*, when all these restaurants can spill out onto the pavements it'll be phenomenal.

*Because of all the office carparks full pedestrianisation will probably only occur during the day, maybe between 10am -5pm and then 7pm onwards or something.
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Old October 13th, 2018, 08:23 PM   #1128
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Is this where Tattu is opening up? i wonder how they're getting on inside?

Along with Fazenda, this should really improve the area over the weekend period

Tattu is further down Barwick Street next door to Primitivo.
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Old October 13th, 2018, 08:38 PM   #1129
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Great to FINALLY see the hotel underway after all these years, just a shame about the deletion of the rooftop pool.

Come on Brum, we really need that 5* hotel for our City.
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Old March 25th, 2019, 01:40 PM   #1130
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Bump! Was going to post in the Whatever Happened thread, but then found this info, we finally have an opening date! May 2020.

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Great to see progress on work to bring back the Grand Hotel in Birmingham. Saved from demolition by the Society in 2004.

All being well, the hotel is due to re-open in May 2020.

An excellent job by @HortonsEstate




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Old March 25th, 2019, 03:57 PM   #1131
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I’m so going to book a night here when it’s open
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Old March 25th, 2019, 04:52 PM   #1132
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Any plans for anything to go in on the ground floor next to tattu?
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Old July 15th, 2019, 04:00 PM   #1133
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https://www.propertyfundsworld.com/2...tel-birmingham

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GRAHAM has been appointed by funds managed by Starwood Capital Group to undertake the multi-million pound refurbishment of The Grand Hotel on Colmore Row in Birmingham.

Originally built in 1879 by Isaac Horton, whose family still owns it today, The Grand Hotel is a Grade II* Listed building, occupying a prominent and imposing position on the city’s prestigious Colmore Row with views over St Philip’s Cathedral. GRAHAM will now complete the final part of the refurbishment, with works comprising the design and fit out of approximately 15,254 sq m internal floor space to create a 185-bedroom luxury hotel.

In addition to accommodation, the refurbishment by GRAHAM will include a lounge, destination restaurant and bars, gym facilities, conference and meeting rooms, commercial kitchens, and an external feature terrace. GRAHAM will also carry out the sensitive restoration of the prestigious Grosvenor ballroom.

Before its closure in 2002, the hotel was frequented by Britain’s high society with royalty, politicians and celebrities often checking in for the evening or to attend parties in the elaborately decorated Grosvenor Room.

John Maguire, Regional Business Development Director for GRAHAM’s Birmingham office, says: “The Grand Hotel is a symbol of Birmingham’s rich history. We are pleased to be working with the Hortons’ Estate and Starwood Capital Group to restore the building to its former glory. The sympathetic refurbishment will provide the historic building with a new lease of life and offer Birmingham’s prestigious Colmore Row a luxury venue for overnight stays and parties once again.”

The project is already well underway with an expected completion date in Q2 2020.
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Old July 19th, 2019, 07:31 PM   #1134
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Old July 19th, 2019, 09:07 PM   #1135
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They look interesting. I really hope that the designs reflect the heritage of the building but include the quircky touches as illustrated. If this were to turn out to be just another uber bland business hotel, that could be located in Anywhereville, I'd be very disappointed. I am encouraged by these impressions.
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Old July 19th, 2019, 09:40 PM   #1136
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The suspended original mini is a nice touch
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Old July 22nd, 2019, 09:31 AM   #1137
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I hope that actually happens!!
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Old September 15th, 2019, 12:56 AM   #1138
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Old September 15th, 2019, 11:05 AM   #1139
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Can you believe they ever thought about demolishing this 15 years ago. I was outraged at the time, I'm so glad it's going to reopen next year.
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Old September 15th, 2019, 11:09 AM   #1140
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Just went to the last page of this thread from 2007 and everyone was worrying about demolition. Makes quite an interesting read in hindsight all these year later.
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