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View Poll Results: Podržavate li gradnju Pelješkog mosta?
Da 176 83.41%
Ne 20 9.48%
Svejedno mi je 15 7.11%
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Old September 20th, 2019, 05:51 PM   #4501
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Koliko je planirano mostova i koja je dužina istih?
Koliko je planirano tunela i koja je dužina istih?
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Old September 20th, 2019, 06:07 PM   #4502
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Veći nacrt - 6 MB - pregledna situacija.pdf
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Old September 20th, 2019, 06:59 PM   #4503
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Dakle, ovo su objekti na budućoj cesti:
petlja Doli
tunel Supava - 1.325 m
most Ston - 485 m
tunel Polakovica - 1.265 m
petlja Prapratno
vijadukt Prapratno - 215 m
petlja Zaradeže
tunel Debeli Brijeg - 2.467 m
most Dumanja Jaruga II - 80
most Dumanja Jaruga I - 488 m
vijadukt Doli - 156 m
tunel Kamence - 499 m
odmorište Blaca
most Pelješac - 2.404 m
odmorište Komarina
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Old September 20th, 2019, 07:58 PM   #4504
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Old September 21st, 2019, 09:18 AM   #4505
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Dali je s vremenom moguće dodati još dvije trake?
Cemu, zasto, komu!?
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Old September 21st, 2019, 03:56 PM   #4507
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Dali je s vremenom moguće dodati još dvije trake?
Cemu, zasto, komu!?
Ničemu, zaništo, nikomu.
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Old September 21st, 2019, 07:43 PM   #4508
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Iz tehničke perspektive, uvijek je moguće dodati još dvije, pa i više traka. Pogotovo kad radiš novu cestu kroz pustopoljinu.
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Old September 21st, 2019, 09:10 PM   #4509
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Ničemu, zaništo, nikomu.
Upravo to! Zato je to tvoje pitanje totalno nepotrebno. Jer za naseg vijeka pgdp nikad nece bit toliki da ce trebat duplat tu dionicu.
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Old September 21st, 2019, 11:53 PM   #4510
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Butković: Ugovori za pristupne ceste potpisat će se za 10-ak dana

Nakon što su odbijene žalbe Strabaga i Avaxa, uklonjene su i posljednje zapreke za početak gradnje pristupnih cesta za Pelješki most. Ugovori o gradnji potpisat će se u roku od 10-ak dana, rekao je u HRT-ovoj emisiji "Tema dana" ministar mora, prometa i infrastukture Oleg Butković.

Ministar Butković izjavio je da se ovaj projekt mora završiti, zbog financijske perspektive, do kraja 2023. godine. No smatra da se to može završiti i bitno ranije.
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Old September 22nd, 2019, 12:41 AM   #4511
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Ničemu, zaništo, nikomu.
Upravo to! Zato je to tvoje pitanje totalno nepotrebno. Jer za naseg vijeka pgdp nikad nece bit toliki da ce trebat duplat tu dionicu.
A da do Dubrovnika ostavimo samo kozje staze?
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Old September 22nd, 2019, 07:45 AM   #4512
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Kažu tamo neke studije da 2+2 treba tek ako je PGDS (prosječni godišnji dnevni saobraćaj) preko 10.000 vozila. Evo kakvo je stanje bilo prošle godine:
Debeli Brijeg - Cavtat = 4.037
Cavtat - Dubrovnik = 16.537
Dubrovnik - Slano = 9.378
Slano - Zaton Doli (skretanje za Pelješac) = 5.783
Zaton Doli - Zaton Doli (granični prelaz BiH) = 5.181
Klek (granični prelaz BiH) - Opuzen = 5.230
Opuzen - Ploče = 8.395
Opuzen - Metkovići = 8.620
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Old September 22nd, 2019, 02:23 PM   #4513
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A da do Dubrovnika ostavimo samo kozje staze?
A da ne otvaramo temu prožvakanu 500 puta?

Svaku malo se javi neki pametnjaković s istim pitanjem, zašto se ne gradi 2+2 do Dubrovnika.

Zašto bi se gradilo kad nema prometne ni ekonomske opravdanosti. Nešto što se objasnilo 50 puta na ovom forumu
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Old September 22nd, 2019, 02:26 PM   #4514
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A da do Dubrovnika ostavimo samo kozje staze?
A da ne otvaramo temu prožvakanu 500 puta?

Svaku malo se javi neki pametnjaković s istim pitanjem, zašto se ne gradi 2+2 do Dubrovnika.

Zašto bi se gradilo kad nema prometne ni ekonomske opravdanosti. Nešto što se objasnilo 50 puta na ovom forumu
Ajde? Tko je to objasnio. Ti? Ne lupaj gluposti. Autocesta ja došla do iole svakog važnijeg grada u RH a do Dubrovnika nek ostane dvotračna cesta. Uz rastući cestovni promet??
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Old September 22nd, 2019, 02:51 PM   #4515
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Kažu tamo neke studije da 2+2 treba tek ako je PGDS (prosječni godišnji dnevni saobraćaj) preko 10.000 vozila. Evo kakvo je stanje bilo prošle godine:
Debeli Brijeg - Cavtat = 4.037
Cavtat - Dubrovnik = 16.537
Dubrovnik - Slano = 9.378
Slano - Zaton Doli (skretanje za Pelješac) = 5.783
Zaton Doli - Zaton Doli (granični prelaz BiH) = 5.181
Klek (granični prelaz BiH) - Opuzen = 5.230
Opuzen - Ploče = 8.395
Opuzen - Metkovići = 8.620
Dakle, Cavtat - Slano nije upitno, a tu ćemo BC vidit kad i željeznicu južno od Splita, dakle nikad
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Old September 22nd, 2019, 05:06 PM   #4516
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Mene zanima čime je bila opravdana izgradnja gotovo stotinu kilometara A1 južno od Dugopolja te još desetak kilometara A10 do luke Ploče. Komu, čemu, zašto? Tamo jedva da itko živi. Teren je brutalan. D8 postoji. D62 jednako tako postoji. Ako je jedina svrha te sekcije A1 da se spoji na Bosnu i Hercegovinu, koja je bila poanta ić toliko južno ako se moglo skratit za 70 kilometara i sa BiH spojit primjerice kod Aržana ili skratit za 50 i spojit kod Imotskog. Taj novac se mogao puno korisnije utrošit na projekte oko Splita koji su zasigurno veći prioritet nego autocesta do Zagvozda ili Vrgorca. U Vrgorcu, primjera radi, živi četiri do pet puta manje stanovnika nego samo u pojedinim splitskim kvartovima, u gradu u kojemu nisu sposobni ni dvi ulice spojit zadnjih 30 godina. Ako bi autocesta išla do Dubrovnika, onda bi to naposljetku opravdalo izgradnju ovih zlatom plaćenih kilometara kroz draču i kamen. Ako ne, onda se samo obezvrjeđuje ono izgrađeno, te dokazuje da državi modo operandi nije rješavanje stvarnih prioriteta, već stvaranje željenih prioriteta čije "rješavanje" ostavlja određeni politički učinak. Pa za tih 70 kilometara autoceste viška je Split danas mogao biti siguran grad, primjer dobrog prometnog rješenja, u kojem ne nosiš glavu u torbi svaki put kad ideš proć priko ceste.
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Svu državnu lovu treba utrpati u Split. Ostali nek crknu.
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Ajde? Tko je to objasnio. Ti? Ne lupaj gluposti. Autocesta ja došla do iole svakog važnijeg grada u RH a do Dubrovnika nek ostane dvotračna cesta. Uz rastući cestovni promet??
Među ostalima. Prolistaj malo dretvu pa ćeš vidit da se oko toga vodila rasprava.

Iole svakog važnijeg grada? Jeli ciljaš na nešto specifično?

Dubrovnik ima 40000 stanovnika i to u opadanju. Turisti u Dubrovnik oduvijek primarno dolaze zračnim prijevozom. Ne postoji nikakva financijska opravdanost ulaganja u autocestu.
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Ajde? Tko je to objasnio. Ti? Ne lupaj gluposti. Autocesta ja došla do iole svakog važnijeg grada u RH a do Dubrovnika nek ostane dvotračna cesta. Uz rastući cestovni promet??
Među ostalima. Prolistaj malo dretvu pa ćeš vidit da se oko toga vodila rasprava.

Iole svakog važnijeg grada? Jeli ciljaš na nešto specifično?

Dubrovnik ima 40000 stanovnika i to u opadanju. Turisti u Dubrovnik oduvijek primarno dolaze zračnim prijevozom. Ne postoji nikakva financijska opravdanost ulaganja u autocestu.
U opadanju?dapače suprotno. Ne lupaj gluposti. Ovakvim glupim argumentima služio se andro vlahušić
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