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Old March 25th, 2013, 08:27 PM   #101
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Planning portal down until this Wednesday.

http://www.newcastle.gov.uk/planning...g-applications
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Good news; I'm away from the office until tomorrow but have to submit an application first thing in the morning! Thanks!
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Old March 26th, 2013, 06:22 PM   #103
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Planning portal down until this Wednesday.

http://www.newcastle.gov.uk/planning...g-applications
Newcastle City Planning Portal is back up and running.
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English Heritage's response to the planning application is available on the planning portal.

They support the application with suggested conditions on the quality of the materials used, recording of the internal fabric of the timber building at the end of Dobson's building, signage and storage standards for retailers and regular cleaning of glazing and stonework.
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English Heritage's response to the planning application is available on the planning portal.

They support the application with suggested conditions on the quality of the materials used, recording of the internal fabric of the timber building at the end of Dobson's building, signage and storage standards for retailers and regular cleaning of glazing and stonework.
Some excerpts from the English Heritage response of 16th April 2013. Taken from the Planning Application documentation @ http://publicaccess.newcastle.gov.uk...=MJUXQXBSAP000









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Old April 19th, 2013, 11:50 AM   #106
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Nice to see English Heritage coming up with a sensible response to the application.
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Old April 19th, 2013, 12:20 PM   #107
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Sensible? Sensible? In what way is the porte-cochere "dilapidated"? English Heritage should invest in a dictionary, and some staff who know how to use one.
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"The volume of vehicular traffic produces a hurried, noisy and unwelcoming space"

It's a porte cochere, for sake.

"In this respect the porte cochere re-establishes its intended purpose of dignifying and celebrating travel"

Its intended purpose is to allow vehicles to bring passengers to the station doors and discharge them under shelter, which it currently does, but which it will no longer do.

"This benefit outweighs the unprecedented nature of the glazing and use."

In order to secure the village, we had to destroy it.

English Heritage appears to employ fools and poltroons.
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Old April 19th, 2013, 12:37 PM   #109
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Sensible? Sensible? In what way is the porte-cochere "dilapidated"?.
Perhaps they are alluding to the poor maintainance that it currently gets, it's dark and dirty, and in a state of disrepair through neglect. When was the last time the stonework was actually cleaned and maintained?

All the diesel taxis parked with engines idling have made the interior look like the lungs of a 60 a day smoker.
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Perhaps they are alluding to the poor maintainance that it currently gets, it's dark and dirty, and in a state of disrepair through neglect. When was the last time the stonework was actually cleaned and maintained?

All the diesel taxis parked with engines idling have made the interior look like the lungs of a 60 a day smoker.
That's not dilapdated, that's just a bit grubby.
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I remember saying on this thread that although the porte cochere was only ever meant for carriages this should not stop the need for modernisation and expansion. However, reading the english heritage statement that the details of the proposals should be built to the same quality and composition as the existing station, and knowing that it probably won't. Im having second thoughts on this proposal.

If they just opened up the roof and light was allowed in im sure it would resolve the 'dingy' aspect. And i'm sure Dobson would have preferred it to have more light inside, as judged by his consistent masterful examples of interior natural lighting, of which the trainshed is one.
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Old April 22nd, 2013, 12:27 PM   #112
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Central Gateway

Courtesy of the Newcastle City Council web site @ http://www.newcastle.gov.uk/news-story/central-gateway

Central Gateway

Published date: Mon, 22/04/2013 - 09:50

Newcastle City Council and NE1 were awarded £4.95m from the Regional Growth Fund in late 2012 to improve access to and the area around Central Station. This links to Network Rail and East Coast’s project to improve the inside of the station.

The funding will be used along side contributions collected from developers to transform the arrival experience at Central Station, a key gateway for both Newcastle and the North East. The pedestrian environment will be greatly improved to reflect the high numbers of people using this area on foot. Access to public transport will be maintained, as will access to residential and business properties.

We have been consulting with stakeholders since September 2012, drop in sessions were held in November 2012 and a questionnaire was placed on the Let’s Talk website.

We are using the feedback we have received to finalise the plan for the area – it will be available here when ready.

A drop in session will be held on Tuesday 30 April 2013 at the County Thistle Hotel, Neville Street in the Mozart Suite between 3pm and 8pm where the plans will be displayed.

The project will be discussed from 6:15pm at a drop in before the Westgate ward committee on Monday 22 April 2013 at St. John the Baptist Church, Grainger Street. The project will be also discussed as part of the meeting; the papers are available here: http://democracy.newcastle.gov.uk/ie...=173&MId=4534&...
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Old April 23rd, 2013, 12:27 PM   #113
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Sensible? Sensible? In what way is the porte-cochere "dilapidated"? English Heritage should invest in a dictionary, and some staff who know how to use one.
I'm inclined to agree with English Heritage. I went under the portico last weekend on a night out.
It stunk of stale urine, was covered in litter, stained brickwork, crumbling brickwork and was just generally unkept. It was full of drunks and people spitting around.
It was originally designed for horse/cart/hansom pick ups. Not vehicles which constantly expel Carbon Monoxide..

If preserving that portico means creating it into an indoor and inviting area...then I'm all for it.
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Old April 23rd, 2013, 06:54 PM   #114
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Well said, Superunknown90. Just because it was originally designed for one purpose doesn't mean it should be kept that way indefinitely, especially if it's currently dilapidated and unwelcoming to visitors.
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Old April 30th, 2013, 10:36 AM   #115
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Plans for the area around Central Station are revealed
by Adrian Pearson, The Journal, April 30th 2013


RADICAL plans to redesign roads and pavements outside Newcastle Central Station have been revealed. Planners will today kick off a public consultation on how to improve the area outside the station to coincide with ambitious new plans for the train station itself.

A two-way cycle track will be created at the west end of Neville Street, south of St Mary’s Cathedral and the flow of traffic at the front of the station will also be altered to ease congestion in the area. Taxis will no longer be able to enter the portico. Instead they will continue to rank from Orchard Street with a pick up area just to the east of the portico. Pedestrian crossings will also be provided on Neville Street and lower Grainger Street.

Sean Bullick, chief executive of business group NE1 said: “We are excited to be unveiling the dramatic plans for such a crucial part of the City Centre. These plans are the results of over three years of hard work and will not only redevelop this immediate area but also facilitate the regeneration of the City Centre. The improvements will accentuate the important heritage of the Grade One listed building, one of only six such stations in the UK, and act as a stunning new gateway to the entire city for visitors. We believe the project will play a key role in the regeneration of the City Centre and help to demonstrate that Newcastle and the North East are very much open for business.”

The plans will be on view at the Thistle Hotel today from 3-8pm.


Read more - http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-e...#ixzz2RvwiZ7lN
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Old April 30th, 2013, 11:20 AM   #116
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It still doesn't seem to address the volume of traffic along Neville Street and there are a lot of bus stops outside the Central.

I personally always divert round the back of the Central but that area will be congested too with the development of the Stephenson Quarter and the new Police HQ.

One alternative would to have a clearway (i.e no parking) up Westgate Road and run two way traffic up there - right turn from bottom of Grainger Street then left onto Clayton Street West.
Then only have buses, taxis and access to drive up Neville Street?
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Exciting plans for Central Station

This from the Newcastle City Council web site @ http://www.newcastle.gov.uk/news-sto...entral-station

Exciting plans for Central Station

Published date: Tue, 30/04/2013 - 15:06

On Tuesday 30 April, NE1 Ltd, Newcastle City Council, Network Rail and East Coast will unveil for the first time their joint plans to transform Newcastle Central Station and its surroundings. The multi-million pound regeneration project will transform the inside of the station and create a magnificent sweeping gateway into Newcastle.
These changes marry with the work that was recently announced by East Coast Rail and Network Rail to redevelop the interior of Newcastle Central Station.

The project is being funded by NE1, the Government’s Regional Growth Fund, Newcastle City Council, East Coast and Network Rail. The combined investment for the project is £20 million.

The plans have been developed after extensive consultation with a broad range of user groups and the public are now being invited to view the plans at a drop in session at the Thistle Hotel on Tuesday 30 April from 3-8pm. Artist impressions and displays showing what is planned will be available to view with representatives from all the project partners available to answer questions on the major works.
East Coast and Network Rail’s plans for the station interior include the pedestrianisation and glazing of the station portico, doubling space allocated for retail and improving passenger facilities with a new travel centre, better toilets and clearer signage.

The £8.6m project to improve the inside of the station and its portico, which is one hundred and fifty years old this year, is being funded by the Department for Transport’s Station Commercial Project Facility Fund. East Coast is working with rail infrastructure provider Network Rail to deliver the improvements.

The plan is also to dramatically improve the area at the front of the station including altering how people access the station. The public realm will be transformed with wider footways, space for pavement cafes and improved pedestrian access to and from the station. Direct pedestrian crossings will also be provided on Neville Street and lower Grainger Street.

A two way cycle track will be created at the west end of Neville Street, south of St Mary’s Cathedral and the flow of traffic at the front of the station will also be altered to ease congestion in the area, whilst maintaining the public transport links and drop off and collection points.

Taxis will no longer be able to enter the portico. Instead they will continue to rank from Orchard Street with a pick up area just to the east of the portico.

The planning team has worked closely with public transport operators and a range of interest groups to ensure the project delivers to its potential. The funding for the project was awarded in 2012 and since then there has been extensive consultation with a wide range of interest groups to gather views on what needs to be done to improve the area. Feedback from meetings with groups including the Elders’ Council, Newcastle’s Disability Forum and the Public Transport Users Group have all helped to shape the final plans.

The work is expected to be complete by Summer 2014.

Sean Bullick, Chief Executive of NE1 Ltd said:
“We are excited to be unveiling the dramatic plans for such a crucial part of the city. These plans are the results of over 3 years of hard work and will not only redevelop this immediate area but will also facilitate the regeneration of the city centre. While this is a fantastic project, it is only the first stage of a series of transformational developments.”

Cllr Michael Johnson, deputy cabinet member for skills, business and enterprise said:
“The Central Gateway redevelopment is key to our ambition of transforming Newcastle into a truly international transport hub. Improving connectivity between core cities and other regions of the UK and Europe will help to drive growth and increase the competitiveness of the regional economy, while the public realm works will greatly increase accessibility and provide an enhanced link to the city centre.”

East Coast Stations and Property Director Tim Hedley-Jones said:
“Newcastle Central station is a key part of the history and future of both the city and the wider North East region. The improvements will accentuate the important heritage of the Grade One listed building, one of only six such stations in the UK, and act as a stunning new gateway to the city for visitors.
"We believe the project will play a key role in the regeneration of the city centre and help to demonstrate that Newcastle and the North East are very much open for business.”

Network Rail Route Managing Director Phil Verster said:
“Newcastle station is an incredibly busy and important transport hub for the North East. These improvements will help passengers to get the best from the listed building. Significantly, the finished station will also give a better first impression to visitors to the city.
“We are working closely with NE1 Ltd, the council and local business leaders to make sure the plans complement the city scheme to improve the area outside the station.”
Ends

Notes to editors

The funding has been allocated from the Government’s Regional Growth Fund, a £2.6 billion fund operating across England from 2011 to 2016. It supports projects and programmes that lever private sector investment to create economic growth and sustainable employment. The first three rounds will generate over £13 billion of private sector investment and create or safeguard over 500,000 jobs. The fourth round of RGF will make a further £350 million available in the pot and bidding has now closed. For more information please go to: http://www.gov.uk/understanding-the-...al-growth-fund

The scheme includes:

a. Improved transport interchange with various modes including rail, metro, bus, taxi, coaches and bikes;
b. Improved public realm; and
c. Improved access to key development sites.
• Central Station sees 7.5m passengers use its facilities every year.
NE1 Ltd is the business improvement district company for Newcastle City Centre. It was the largest BID company in the UK when it was established in 2009 and continues to work to improve the city centre offer.
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Old April 30th, 2013, 08:00 PM   #118
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Revamping Newcastle Central Station: Multi-Million Plans Revealed To Public

This from Sky Tyne and Wear
By Joe Daunt, Location: Newcastle 30/04/13

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Video: A glimpse into the future around Newcastle's Central Station

Plans to transform the surrounding area of Newcastle's Central Station have been revealed for the first time, with an emphasis on providing better station access.

Artists impressions show wider footways and improved pedestrian access.

These changes marry with the work that was recently announced by East Coast Rail and Network Rail to redevelop the interior of Newcastle Central Station.


Full article inclusding video on http://tyneandwear.sky.com/news/arti...aled-to-public

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I went to the "Central Gateway" drop in at the Thistle Hotel to have a look at the new road layout that will be installed in front of the station and was surprised by its scope. I was expecting some additional paving in front of Greggs/ONeils/Thistle etc but they've changed some other roads. As far as I remember the following is the gist of the plans (and in case you can't tell the image is my artists impression (via paint!) of the plans that were on show!)
  • Clayton Street - Closed to Cars (North) at entrance to Bewick Street, to become bus lane with opposing traffic allowed south from Pink Lane
  • Bewick Street gives sole access to station car park after crossing Neville Street to West Car Park
  • No access from Neville Street into Car Park
  • Service Road and "Lower" Grainger Street fully pedestrianised, loading bays provided on Neville Street
  • Westgate Road pedestrianised in front of Union Rooms and fmr Westgate House - "Public Square" to be created?
  • Westgate Road to join Neville Street in opposing direction (no access West) then join Collingwood Street as current (Bus Only access from Westgate Road to Neville Street Westbound)
  • Taxi Rank (4 taxis) in front of Station Hotel with rank in Orchard Street Tunnel (as current), new Taxi Rank to be created near to Centre for Life
  • Public Square in front of Centurion Pub
  • Cycle Lanes and Pedestrian Crossings were also shown but can't remember all locations

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Thanks for the info.

Interesting square around Stephenson Monument.

Still trying to understand traffic flow!

Are there any online maps that we can look at?
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