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Old July 13th, 2007, 12:15 AM   #1
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Does anyone have any images of this place while it was a working hospital? Whats it like inside?

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Nothing internal, but there are quite a few external pictures, and loads of information here.

These are my own pics, I only live around the corner. So please feel free to use them if you wish.











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Old July 15th, 2007, 06:37 PM   #3
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I'd be interested to see some 'working' pictures of the hospital. The refurb is certainly well done, I've been in a couple of the apartments, and they are gorgeous.
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Old July 27th, 2007, 02:16 PM   #4
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Old July 27th, 2007, 02:45 PM   #5
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Well, seeing as Woody is uncharacteristically silent at the moment, a quick SP:

- Birmingham's new tallest inhabited building is under construction: Glenn Howells & Ballymore's residential tower at Snow Hill.

- there is also full planning permission for Richardson's Broad Street Tower at 133m tall.

- Birmingham's new new tallest inhabited building has been submitted for reserved matters: Eric Kuhne & Dandara's V Building at seemingly 147m

- rumours abound that VTP, currently under final design stage, may be increased up to 200m, although this is only from one source - a council newsletter.

- the Rotunda external cladding is nearly complete

- The Cube looks just about ready to start

- the first tranche of funding, for railway improvements up to £128m, has been released by the government amid controversy over the proposals.

- Digbeth Coach Station is set to close in November 2007

- Birmingham Airport looks set to get its runway extension, new international pier, new control tower and tunnelled A45 by 2012

- rumoured 100m + tower to replace Natwest on Colmore Row

PLUS: lots of smaller projects: Sirius, 11 Brindley Place, Colmore Plaza, Snow Hill 1, Peat House, Park Central, St George's Quarter, etc etc

Looking good

Looking bad: transport and congestion charging, casino at NEC, 50m pool, new library
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Old July 27th, 2007, 02:52 PM   #6
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oi, leave me alone...... ive been upto crap loads...... and i still come here day after day lol
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Old July 27th, 2007, 08:24 PM   #8
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To go with refurb of Cannon House and the recent planning app for its rear, towards Colmore Plaza there is planning app for refurb of shops underneath.

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C/04295/07/FUL

Date application received
11/07/2007

Date application registered
11/07/2007

Status
Awaiting PP/Cons Exp

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22-26 The Priory Queensway, City, Birmingham, B4 6BS

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Installation of new shop fronts to include roller shutters
also NEC group doing well

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NEC group reports bumper profit
Jul 27 2007

The NEC Group made an operating profit of £44.6 million in the 12 months to March 31 - more than £12 million more than in the previous year.

The increase during the second year of the group's 'turnaround' plan was due mainly to a number of significant exhibitions during the period, including the quadrennial printing show IPEX and the biennial machine tool show MACH.

After taking into account interest payments on the historical loans taken out to build the venues, including the National Exhibition Centre, National Indoor Arena and International Convention Centre, there was a surplus of £12.3 million for Birmingham City Council, a boost for both council tax and business rate payers.

This compares with a £1 million deficit for the council in 2005/06. The council used £1.8 million of the surplus to repay loans.

As well as 2006/07 being at the high point of the cycle of exhibitions, there were strong performances from the other areas of the group's business.


The ICC broke record results in 2005/06, increasing revenues by another three per cent on the previous year.


Operating profits for the group's two music and sport arenas - the NEC Arena and the NIA - were up by more than nine per cent on the previous year.


Significant events hosted by NEC Group venues in 2006/07 included Scissor Sisters, Take That, George Michael, BBC Sports Personality of The Year, Horse of the Year Show, European Indoor Athletics, Grand Designs Live, Crufts, the BSAVA 50th Congress, Marks and Spencers' AGM and Spring Fair, Birmingham.


Revenues totalled £139.9 million, 974 events took place and there were 4.4 million visitors. During the year, a further £12.6 million was invested in the NEC's venue improvement programme, bringing the total expenditure to £23.8 million to date, in what will eventually be a £40 million programme.


It included transforming a number of in-hall catering facilities and the upgrading of car parks.


NEC Group chief operating officer John Hornby said: "We are very pleased with the financial results in what was the second year of our turnaround plan. We are now starting to see the benefits of the significant investment in the venues, not only through customer and visitor feedback but also in our financial results.


"The upcoming year will be a busy one. Not only are we managing the next phase of our investment programme at the NEC site, but our plans are gathering pace to ensure all of the venues can respond to the increasingly competitive environment and also changing customer needs.


"In particular, we are working hard to realise our aspirations to deliver a gaming-anchored entertainment complex at the Solihull site as the first phase of creating Destination NEC."


It is claimed that the NEC Group has a £1.3 billion economic impact on the area around it, based on expenditure with local hotels, restaurants, florists, stand builders and other businesses. Figures show that for every £1 of group revenue, around another £10 is spent locally, by visitors, exhibitors and organisers.


Symphony Hall is now direct grant funded by the city council, so its deficit no longer appears as part of NEC Group results.
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Old July 28th, 2007, 12:45 AM   #9
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Great news about the NEC - it never made any profit until last year. Thanks to Andrew Morris in main - he took over the running and gave it a make-over and it seems to have done the trick.
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Old July 28th, 2007, 12:42 PM   #10
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has it had its make over now???
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Old July 28th, 2007, 07:30 PM   #11
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Conservation groups moaning about the Victoria Sq location for the Big Screen - they just going to moan wherever it goes? It's in the corner basically, in front of a Halifax branch. It's a dead corner, why are they bitching again? And thank god it looks like it is being set against stone pillars.

I quite like the council's thoughts that when cameras show crowds watching they'll be framed by the Council House and Town Hall.

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Jul 27 2007


By Paul Dale, Public Affairs Editor


The ambience and "calm magnificence" of the city centre will be destroyed by the relocation of the 'big screen' to Victoria Square, conservationists have claimed.

The Victorian Society has clashed head-on with city council officials, who claim the plans will raise Birmingham's global profile.

The council believes the relocation of the city's big screen from Chamberlain Square - which will cost tax payers £365,000 over five years - will help showcase Birmingham.

Council chief executive Stephen Hughes said the screen would be used to relay events, such as productions from the Royal Opera House, Covent Garden and the 2012 Olympic Games.

The council's political leadership is strongly supporting the new location on the grounds that when national events take place – such as Last Night of the Proms, royal weddings, New Year's Eve – the view of crowds celebrating in Birmingham will have the Council House as a backdrop.

Owned by the council, but managed by the BBC, it would be an integral part of the local authority's plans to use new technology to dramatically improve the quality of information provided to the public, Mr Hughes said.

He added: "Communicating more effectively with the public, businesses and visitors alike is key to our future development and status as a modern, forward thinking global city."

But the proposal sparked fury among conservation groups who say the modern intrusion will ruin views of Victorian civic buildings.

Victorian Society spokesman Stephen Hartland described the idea as "ghastly". He said: "This is Birmingham's number one civic square, largely Victorian and in a Conservation Area and surrounded by listed buildings.

"Does Trafalgar Square or Albert Square in Manchester or The Old Market Square in Nottingham or George Square in Glasgow have such an installation?

"No they do not and this proposal would frankly destroy the ambience that gives a calm magnificence to the city centre.

"So many people who come to Birmingham and find this square for the first time are overwhelmed by the power and great stately grandeur of the buildings."

Mr Hartland said the screen would also clash with 1 Victoria Square, formerly the Central Post Office, designed by Sir Henry Tanner and completed in 1891 in the French Renaissance style.

The building was saved from demolition in 1973 following a campaign by the Victorian Society.

The city council intends to pay $763,000 (around £372,000) for a new flat screen from American firm Daktronics, but repayments on the money it will borrow to fund the purchase amount to £85,213 a year for five years.

A sponsorship deal with the University of Central England will raise £60,000, leaving the council with a net cost of £365,000 over the five years.

Council leisure bosses are consulting the public on the proposal, which involves embedding a flat screen in an extended stone wall at the Waterloo Street steps, by the Halifax Building Society.

The council insists that the new arrangements will be cheaper than keeping the screen in Chamberlain Square, where the council is paying a £75,000 rental fee to electronics firm Philips.

The screen began broadcasting on May 1 2004 and the service has cost the council more than £230,000 so far.

By 2012 the council will have paid almost £600,000 for the screen, which broadcasts a mixture of BBC programmes, Birmingham community events, local authority news and the work of local film makers.

Temporary planning permission was granted more than a year ago, with the proviso that the screen would be removed by the end of March following completion of a £35 million refurbishment to the Town Hall.

But the council granted itself an extension of planning permission until the end of September, to enable the screen to be used in conjunction with the Chamberlain Square beach.
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its a good point by the council though with the tow hall and council house in the back drop!
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Was up late the other night reading the regeneration supplement from Birmingham Post. Here's a few titbits I found in it.

Regarding Colmore Plaza
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Carlyle is already in detailed negotiations with the first propsective tenant, Davis Langdon, and a number of other high-profile companies are said to have expressed interest.
Regarding the Cube
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In the next few weeks, the piling drills will start the process of digging a 20m-deep hole, one of the largest in the UK which will house the foundations for the 70m-tall building
Regarding UHB (new hospital)
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The new hospital will have the capacity to treat 20 per cent more patients, giving UHB the potential to provide the lowest waiting times in the UK.

It will have 30 operating theatres...

... and 100 critical care beds - the biggest unit of its kind in Europe.

The new hospital will have 30 miles of piping along its corridors alone.

650,000 patients use UHB services every year.
Nearly half of the 1,200 beds in new hospital will be provided in single rooms, the rest in four-bed bays.
UHB has 6,900 employees and budget of £400 million.

Hospital to open 2010 with completion of move from Selly Oak in 2012
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Just a reminder of the image of the screen and location.

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I was thinking that EH may have point with the postition of the big telly, but having looked at that plans, looks good to me, like the stand they've put it on.

Needs moving from the town hall anyway.
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has it had its make over now???
I went to the OS Outdoors show in March (ish) and most of the renovation work around the central piazza was complete. Not a huge makeover really, just refurbishments to the eateries and toilets to make them look modern and take away the '70s decor that was very dated and lowering the tone of the NEC.
It's great to see the cash that has been injected has reaped its reward with more events being brought to the city - these days most companies think the best way to make more money is by cost-cutting.
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im glad to hear it, thats all it needed...it was just looking dated
has it still got concrete ebble floors though?
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I can't see the problem with the big screen myself.
The design looks very good and provided the materials are of high quality this installation with fit into the square very well.

Most people enter Victoria Square from New St, having walked up from the station. You often see people standing outside the cafes on that side taking photos of the council house. From there the screen wouldn't be visible.
In fact the screen does not intrude into the any view of "the big 3" (council house, town hall, post office). It's tucked away on the opposite corner of the square.

It's about time we used some of our glorious buildings as a backdrop on national telly. The view from the current big screen (towards the central library) and the view from the mailbox used (rarely) for the morning weather do the city no favours.
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What are concrete ebble floors?
(Edible chocolate concrete floors would be good.)
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