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Old September 23rd, 2019, 08:30 PM   #761
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But then you have to take into account reliability and such. How long will the cars last? How comfortable are they? Do they damage the track?
....I mean, there's no real reason to doubt much of that. As far as anyone knows--because of course data will be doctored to polish the CV of a state-related entity--Chinese trains are quite reliable. Truthfully, I don't hear a lot of foreigners complain about the reliability of China's metro systems, and at least my own anecdotal, personal experience says they will be reliable, and comfortable as anything else rolling on the T's ancient rails. No reason to suspect track damage, and longevity is such a messy variable, dependent on MBTA's vehicle maintainence (backlog) as much as anything else.

At this point, with XJP at China's helm, I don't like supporting the country more than anyone else, but we can all admit that at least they do make a good train.
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Old September 25th, 2019, 11:39 AM   #762
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This makes me sick, they order chinese rolling stock, rather than order from US-based company...


The United States doesnít have a single company that manufactures these trains. Besides the CRRC has a factory in the USA that produces the trains for the Boston orange line, Los Angeles red line, Chicago CTA, and the Philadelphia metro. What is wrong with buying trains from China? They make some of the best trains in the world and itís being used all over the world. I donít know if youíre being a racist or political but please donít mix politics into trains they have nothing to do with each other. The USA buy trains from the Chinese because they have to and are the best option on the market.
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Old September 25th, 2019, 04:38 PM   #763
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The USA buy trains from the Chinese because they have to and are the best option on the market.
What about Siemens or Bombardier?
The Chinese trains in Bangkok are worse than the Siemens trains.
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Old September 26th, 2019, 04:31 AM   #764
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Bombardier from what I remember bid at a ridiculously high cost from what I remember and from what I remember the theory was that they did that mostly to show the T they were annoyed at the micro-management present in the RFP documents. Siemens I don't remember as clearly tbh I'm not even sure if they did, but if they had it would have cost significantly more which would probably have meant ordering less cars which would have meant that the capacity improvements from reduced headways that are planned would not have happened.
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Old September 26th, 2019, 04:32 AM   #765
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Some people like me have avoided politics entirely, because of how toxic it has become on social media.

Bear in mind that no vehicle manufacturer is immune from the bathtub scenario, which affects very new and very old trains.

A prime example of the challenges of introducing new trains from any manufacturer happened quite recently, with the new trains for the GOBLIN (Gospel Oak-Barking line) on the London Overground: Bombardier agreed to pay for free travel on the GOBLIN throughout this month to make up for it.

I also remember how the new Siemens trains for Thameslink were criticised for only providing charging points in first class: on my very first ride on those trains back in 2016, we ended up having to look after devices from standard class commuters.
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Old September 26th, 2019, 04:06 PM   #766
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The new Orange Line trains unfortunately had to be temporarily pulled from service.

"New Orange Line trains placed out of service due to door issue"

https://whdh.com/news/new-orange-lin...to-door-issue/
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New Red Line cars have arrived in Boston for testing


https://twitter.com/MBTA/status/1181757244440027136
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New entrance has opened at Forest Hills station on the Orange Line





source: https://www.mbta.com/projects/forest...entrance-opens
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Old November 6th, 2019, 03:42 AM   #769
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The FMCB has just agreed to push for the conversion of Boston's commuter rail system to start operating as regional rail. Meaning 15-30 minute headways with electrification. This is as a result of activism by Transit Matters that has been pushing for this change for several years now. At a meeting a couple days ago the board voted to approve resolutions to make these changes.
Here are the first steps in the MBTA's long-term plan for the commuter rail
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