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Old October 13th, 2019, 02:39 PM   #15561
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There was no sense of place in Nine Elms before. They are busy creating it now. And in Nine Elms they have built all the rubbish towers. The better quality ones are coming now and I wouldnt say they are particularly generic.

As for CW, there is a lot of boxy, generic stuff there but they are adding more variety now (Park Drive, Baltimore,Newfoundland, for example). I would say it looks less generic the bigger it gets.
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Old October 13th, 2019, 05:06 PM   #15562
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London the the least generic looking city in europe
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Old October 13th, 2019, 05:22 PM   #15563
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Nine Elms will be one of the least 'generic' skylines in Europe and how is CW any more generic than Paris, Frankfurt or most of the other European skylines?
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Old October 13th, 2019, 05:33 PM   #15564
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Old October 13th, 2019, 06:09 PM   #15565
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Not surely, these have been built a little earlier (1109 - 1119). Even the tall one is leaning 2.23 meters:
Asinelli e Garisenda by Vanni Lazzari, su Flickr

I know they are not modern and OT here, but unlike other posts at least they are towers and in Europe.
The purpose was to build 'em straight from the bottom to the top, but there was a basement failure which slowly started to make the towers structure lean to one side. Exactly the same thing which happened to Pisa leaning tower

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Old October 13th, 2019, 06:23 PM   #15566
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Hooray! I was worried that I wouldn't see any Warsaw photo's today
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Old October 13th, 2019, 07:12 PM   #15567
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Old October 13th, 2019, 07:19 PM   #15568
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There was no sense of place in Nine Elms before. They are busy creating it now. And in Nine Elms they have built all the rubbish towers. The better quality ones are coming now and I wouldnt say they are particularly generic.

As for CW, there is a lot of boxy, generic stuff there but they are adding more variety now (Park Drive, Baltimore,Newfoundland, for example). I would say it looks less generic the bigger it gets.
Well comparing an emerging cluster to the wasteland it was before kind of proves my point. There are only generic modern skylines in Europe, maybe with the exception of Moscow's seven sisters which is why we're lucky to have so many beautiful historic skylines in this part of the world. London is a world city with a fantastic mix of architecture at ground level, however, too many of the new towers are average at best. La Defense or Frankfurt are even more generic, however, Paris has a fantastic historic skyline while much of the skyline of pre-war London is hidden behind office blocks. I find the best view are the ones where the city's historic nature intermixes with the better modern additions:


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Old October 13th, 2019, 07:22 PM   #15569
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I will never understand the sense of building skyscrapers in such a way like in Madrid, i mean in a location that looks like it was separated and not matching the rest of the city. ridiculous
But it fits better on a futuristic scene than a lot of 150-meter blocks of 80s style

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Old October 13th, 2019, 10:27 PM   #15570
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Well comparing an emerging cluster to the wasteland it was before kind of proves my point. There are only generic modern skylines in Europe, maybe with the exception of Moscow's seven sisters which is why we're lucky to have so many beautiful historic skylines in this part of the world. London is a world city with a fantastic mix of architecture at ground level, however, too many of the new towers are average at best. La Defense or Frankfurt are even more generic, however, Paris has a fantastic historic skyline while much of the skyline of pre-war London is hidden behind office blocks. I find the best view are the ones where the city's historic nature intermixes with the better modern additions:
Most of the worlds skylines, even in the great skyline cities of the world, are packed with filler buildings that really do not stand out from the crowd. For my the worlds greatest skyline is NYC but on my trips there it has really caught my eye just how many average buildings there are. I guess it allows the standouts to shine brighter. Canary Wharf has some bland boxes for sure. But my point is that they are now adding some points of interest which serve to both bulk up the skyline there, as well as giving us those visual flourishes that elevate the skyline above the mundane. Canary wharf could really do with a couple of taller towers but we know that's not going to happen because of the airport.

And I couldnt agree with you more that what London and Paris (and our other European cities) do best is to mix in these modern towers with their world class historic buildings. European skylines may not be the biggest but this mix is what gives them their point of difference.
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And I couldnt agree with you more that what London and Paris (and our other European cities) do best is to mix in these modern towers with their world class historic buildings. European skylines may not be the biggest but this mix is what gives them their point of difference.
Absolutely, it's the layering and the juxtaposition that's the thing. New York has that too (I think of Gotham as a new Old World City).
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Absolutely, it's the layering and the juxtaposition that's the thing. New York has that too (I think of Gotham as a new Old World City).
Totally. People often don't realise just how old much of NYC is.
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Absolutely, it's the layering and the juxtaposition that's the thing. New York has that too (I think of Gotham as a new Old World City).
NYC is still far more unified than London, being younger and quite strictly planned. Most of Manhattan is still 1850-1950s stuff. Constrasting 1930s modern with contemporary modern both in terms of architecture and planning is neither drastic nor jarring. In London you get Medieval streets and baroque churches against 21st century steel and glass. NYC still looks "classic", the general nature of its skyline has not changed much since before WWII while London compared to its 1950s self has changed completely.
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NYC is still far more unified than London, being younger and quite strictly planned. Most of Manhattan is still 1850-1950s stuff. Constrasting 1930s modern with contemporary modern both in terms of architecture and planning is neither drastic nor jarring. In London you get Medieval streets and baroque churches against 21st century steel and glass. NYC still looks "classic", the general nature of its skyline has not changed much since before WWII while London compared to its 1950s self has changed completely.
Have you spent much time in The City or Canary Wharf?
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Frankfurt looks very sparse with no density, small number of towers and average height. There aren't really any standout impressive towers. La defence is shorter but it's density is significantly more than Frankfurt and puts it ahead. London has two clusters which alone are better than Frankfurt with many other clusters growing so fast. For the next few years it's gunna be London, Moscow and Paris with a big gap then everyone else
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My favorite perspective of Madrid. Where they don't look so aligned and artificial.

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