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Old September 12th, 2019, 08:18 AM   #9661
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If you live in the city above a bar/restaurant then you have to expect a level of noise and late night openings. Comes with the territory. It is a residential area however, within those apartment blocks are commercial units used by yourself. If they weren’t there I guarantee you’d/other residents would be moaning about it.


The Ancoats bars/restaurants have restricted openings to 11pm on weeknights or 1ish on weekends. No one is arguing/bothered about that. My response was in regard to l o t p’s claim that Ancoats’s ‘NIMBY’ rules will prevent Jimmy’s staying open after 12.30am.
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Old September 12th, 2019, 09:00 AM   #9662
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The residential units pre date the commercial units.

People always use the term NIMBY as an insult, but if one of the houses on my residential street turned into a bar open till the early hours - it'd change the street function and make it less desirable from a residential perspective.

People who originally bought in ancoats, bought to be close to the action whilst being sheltered from it. So I don't think it's an unfair curfew.
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Old September 12th, 2019, 11:18 AM   #9663
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shame about Jimmy's, one of the real sucess stories amongst young people and managed to become super cool and attract lots of hot guys and girls, all of which are ranting about the move and the changing of opening hours.

it's simply not going to be the same anymore
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Old September 12th, 2019, 11:42 PM   #9664
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The residential units pre date the commercial units.

People always use the term NIMBY as an insult, but if one of the houses on my residential street turned into a bar open till the early hours - it'd change the street function and make it less desirable from a residential perspective.

People who originally bought in ancoats, bought to be close to the action whilst being sheltered from it. So I don't think it's an unfair curfew.
Not sure about that. The unit functions may pre-date the residential units but the commercial units were built within the apartments. As a residential community I reiterate "if they [bars/restaurants] weren’t there I guarantee you residents would be moaning about it".

Not everyone wants to go to sleep or home at the same time. It's not just a family area, it is a community for young people too and those without children.
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Old September 13th, 2019, 01:37 AM   #9665
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Not sure about that. The unit functions may pre-date the residential units but the commercial units were built within the apartments. As a residential community I reiterate "if they [bars/restaurants] weren’t there I guarantee you residents would be moaning about it".



Not everyone wants to go to sleep or home at the same time. It's not just a family area, it is a community for young people too and those without children.


Young people and/or those without children still need to sleep well and get up in the morning though...

Pre-kids, I used to live in an apartment near to Oxford Rd train station. You get used it it over time/manage to mostly block it out, but the noise of people leaving bars/clubs and waiting for taxis etc in the early hours of the morning (on both weeknights and weekends) was a pain. In that case, the nightlife preceded the apartments so it was fair enough. We knew what we were getting into when we chose to live there so we just had to get on with it. This isn’t the case for Ancoats residents - the current curfew is appropriate. People on a night out can easily venture 5mins down the street into the NQ if they want to party till dawn.
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Old September 13th, 2019, 10:48 AM   #9666
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Goodbye Handmade Burger Co.

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Old September 13th, 2019, 11:18 AM   #9667
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I wonder how long it will be before Wolf and Barburrito close inside the Arndale. Wolf seems to be the least favoured of the two, I hardly ever see anyone inside there, the smell coming from the main loos a few days ago was reason enough not to eat around that area.

Archie’s however, seems to be a big hit with the younger crowd, being Halal seems to work in its favour too. Any news on Fizzante or whatever it was called?
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Old September 13th, 2019, 11:23 AM   #9668
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Bit of an embarrassment for Intu

Turns out you can’t just stick a plaster over an issue as big as the Arndale
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Old September 13th, 2019, 11:27 AM   #9669
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I know people who go to Wolf who have now diverted to the Spinningfields one which opened recently. The Arndale one is never busy as you say.

Shame about Handmade Burger, they did a decent burger for Manchester, vegans like it.

I went to wilderness on Thomas Street last night, it was great, really hope it can be successful.
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Old September 13th, 2019, 11:54 AM   #9670
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Turns out you can’t just stick a plaster over an issue as big as the Arndale
I don't really understand what they are trying to achieve. A second foodhall is excessive on top of the existing offer - including the market.

It would be brilliant for operators in the foodhall to be relocated over time to the new place and allow for demolition of the existing foodhall.
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Old September 13th, 2019, 05:54 PM   #9672
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The reference to Frankie & Benny's and Chiquito is an interesting one. Can't see the Frankie and Benny's off St Ann's Square lasting, that's always empty too.
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Old September 13th, 2019, 06:34 PM   #9673
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The reference to Frankie & Benny's and Chiquito is an interesting one. Can't see the Frankie and Benny's off St Ann's Square lasting, that's always empty too.
Last time I was there the food was atrocious, not a fan of F&B anymore unfortunately.
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Old September 13th, 2019, 07:21 PM   #9674
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The reference to Frankie & Benny's and Chiquito is an interesting one. Can't see the Frankie and Benny's off St Ann's Square lasting, that's always empty too.
It's already for sale and on an earlier closing list which wasn't picked up by a local paper.

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Old September 13th, 2019, 08:57 PM   #9675
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In theory, if F&B and Chiquito both run into trouble, might their almost shared site at Salford Quays be put up for sale? Always thought they're massively out of place there now given all the apartments going up there.
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Old September 13th, 2019, 08:59 PM   #9676
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I don't really understand what they are trying to achieve. A second foodhall is excessive on top of the existing offer - including the market.

It would be brilliant for operators in the foodhall to be relocated over time to the new place and allow for demolition of the existing foodhall.
Different market. The intention for Halle Square is for quick chain restaurants that aren't strictly fast food. You won't get the likes of Spud U Like or KFC opening down there, for instance.
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An extension to Moose (York Street) and another restaurant/cafe on the other side of York House

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Old September 15th, 2019, 09:40 AM   #9678
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I don't really understand what they are trying to achieve. A second foodhall is excessive on top of the existing offer - including the market.



It would be brilliant for operators in the foodhall to be relocated over time to the new place and allow for demolition of the existing foodhall.
Technically it's a third if you include the marketNot sure why anybody thought Barburrito would work when Panchos is around the corner
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Old September 15th, 2019, 08:49 PM   #9679
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Shame about Handmade Burger, they did a decent burger for Manchester, vegans like it.
Many many many better burgers available in Manchester.

Not sad to see an average operator go. Decent little unit though so hopefully something better will take it.
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Old September 16th, 2019, 02:39 AM   #9680
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It's better than Almost Famous or any of those ridiculous hipster ones that disguise the crap tiny overcooked beef burger by slathering it in all sorts of other shite.
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