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Old January 18th, 2005, 11:52 PM   #1
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Projects & Discussion | NSW | Old Scanned Articles, Photos & Proposals

Im going through some old boxes atm and scanning some pix you might find of interest

checkout this one from March 1978.
getting heights confused with RLs again!!

the got Sydney tower pretty close at 308m though.

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Old January 19th, 2005, 03:50 AM   #2
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thats cool ....i love these old articles
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Old January 19th, 2005, 03:56 AM   #3
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Woulda been funny if they'd run out of money for Centrepoint right then...
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Old January 19th, 2005, 10:15 AM   #4
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Thanks heaps for the historical SMH front-pager CULWULLA. Looking forward to more from your boxes

Some facts FYI...

It was first going to be known as "The Centrepoint" after a competition called "Name the Tower" put to the public by The Sun Herald in 1968 and was proposed back then to be worth $25 million to build - lol.

Crone conceived Sydney Tower in 1968. Construction of Centrepoint's shopping areas began in late 1970 with the first 52 stores opening in 1972. The office component was completed in 1974.

Construction of the tower component began in 1975 and was completed in 1981. However, building this tall tower was no small feat. Engineers had to overcome the potential problem of Sydney’s winds on the structure. The tower was designed to withstand a “once-in a-thousand” year storm, bending in winds in excess of 162 mph, as well as an earthquake of a force never anticipated to occur in Australia. 56 cables stabilise the tower.

An 11-storey shopping and office complex is @ the base and the golden turret consists of 9 levels. 4 of them for public useage - the top 2 levels used for the observation decks and just below 2 for revolving restaurants; one restaurant revolves clockwise and the other counter-clockwise, but at exactly the same speed.

The other 5 are operation floors that can be found above the public floors. They include plant levels containing essential equipment.

The turret was jacked up from the top of the 11-level base over the 2 years of 1977 and 1978, reaching its current position in 1979. The spire above the turret was placed atop in 1980.

Circa 1977/78:

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1979:



Construction within the turret:







Looking down during construction in '79:



...and looking up:



It is truly great and innovate late 60s/mid-1970s structural eninginering.

Some more facts FYI:

Besides hoisting the turret from the top of the office component to the top of the shaft, there were a few construction strikes around Sydney (and elsewhere around Australia) at the time including the Centrepoint site.

The shaft supporting the turret is made up of 46 barrel units, each weighing 27 tonnes. These were brought on to the site in seven pieces and welded together. Once the first three sections were in place, a gantry crane was erected to hoist the remaining 43 barrel units.

Each barrel unit was completed with lifts rails, stairwells and hydrolic risers before hoisting. The shaft contains two sets of fire stairs, fire, electrical and plumbing ducts in one half and the lift shafts in the remainder.

The tower itself weighs 2.239 tons. One of the floors in the turret contains a 162,000 litre water tank which serves as a counterbalance to the wind gusts.

The golden turret has a total 420 windows.

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Old January 19th, 2005, 11:29 AM   #5
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thanks for posting info and pix muse.
such an engineering feat for 1970's. well done to all!
its amazing how the main shaft looks so thin but yet its 6.5m or 21ft diametre! it supposed to turn a purple petina colour over the next few decades. should looks snazzy
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when completed what was its ranking in the world? and what was taller?
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Old January 19th, 2005, 11:38 PM   #7
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more laughs. nov 1970
the CAGA was eventually pulled down for GMT.
Thank god Sydney towers top didnt look like that.
Qantas twins? yuk!
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Old January 19th, 2005, 11:47 PM   #8
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when completed what was its ranking in the world? and what was taller?
On completion in 1981,Sydney tower was a respectable worlds 12th tallest!!!!
its now 30th!

list 1981
CN TOWER-553m/1976
OSTANKINO TV TOWER-537/1967
KIEV TV TOWER-385/1973
BERLINER FERNSEHTURM-368/1969
TOKYO TOWER-333/1958
EUROPATURM-331/ 1979
EMLEY MOOR ,UK-329/1971
SC LITHUANIAN RADIO & TV VILNIOUS-327/1980
EIFFEL TOWER-324/1889
TALLINN TV TOWER-312/1980
ST PETERSBURG TV TOWER- 310/1970
SYDNEY TOWER-309/1981
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Old January 20th, 2005, 02:59 AM   #9
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The qantas twins look almost exactly like APPT tower, am i wrong?
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Old January 20th, 2005, 04:19 AM   #10
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^ yes it was Qantas tower from completion in 1982 until late 1990's.
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Old January 21st, 2005, 02:07 AM   #11
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QANTAS House was completed in 1982.

I scanned this pic from the front page of The SMH of May 7 '68:

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It's interesting how the National Australia Bank (129m/423ft) eventually kept the same octagonal shape as the original planned lower 2nd tower.

QANTAS House, now The AAPT Centre (193m/633ft) was kept to the original Joseland Gilling planned design.

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Old January 21st, 2005, 04:33 AM   #12
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Qantas House also has record for stoppages. lots of troubes with unions ect. would you believe excavation started in 1968! and completion 1982, thats 14 bloody years!!!
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Old January 21st, 2005, 04:38 AM   #13
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NORTH SYDNEY 1972!!
no less then 27 skyscrapers uc. most were built 1971 and 1972. what a transformation!!!
the tallest building back then was the 88m/23st -201 Miller st or Novell House. A spire was later added to 95m high.

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Wow, cool articles.
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Old January 21st, 2005, 10:56 AM   #15
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what is that stupid ugly housesing tower near the bringe in the rocks? (the brown one with purple tops?
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^ are you talking about the Dept of Housing? kind alike shoe boxes stacked.hey its pod architecture
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Old January 21st, 2005, 11:12 AM   #17
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^ lol yeh that one i always feel that i could pull it appart like lego!
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Old January 21st, 2005, 11:18 AM   #18
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Thanks for the sharing the old articles Cul. They all make for interesting reading. I've also been collecting articles relating to urban affairs and architecture since 2002. I have 4-5 scrapbooks containing articles from the past year alone. I think it's worth pursuing especially when it comes to locating info in the years ahead if anything about current happenings need to be discussed. However I find it's disappointing that highrise projects in Sydney don't get the attention that they deserve. There's only the occasional article on landmark projects ie BT Tower, Latitude & Regent Place while I have been a bit neglicent in not keeping copies of real estate pamphlets and adverts of apartment towers going up.

On the articles themselves, I would of been happy with the second shorter tower on the Qantas Building site. I have always liked Gillings design of the Qantas (AAP Tower) which for me reminds me of a robot. I think it was an excellent scraper for it's time as well.

The top of Centrepoint as proposed in 1970 doesn't bother me too much, but the final design is still my prefered pick.

Muse handed me and several other guys at our first meet two years ago, a drawing from the Daily Telegraph from 1974 which envisioned the Sydney skyline a decade into the future (1984) and it was believed that the CBD would be full of apartment towers (and that would take a further 15-20 years to achieve) and towers as high as 300 metres. I think it should be scanned in for
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Muse handed me and several other guys at our first meet two years ago, a drawing from the Daily Telegraph from 1974 which envisioned the Sydney skyline a decade into the future (1984) and it was believed that the CBD would be full of apartment towers (and that would take a further 15-20 years to achieve) and towers as high as 300 metres. I think it should be scanned in for
Speak of the devil, I just scanned it....from The Telegraph, Jan. 1974...



Notice the block envelope for the highest structure in the 1984 vision below for CBD1....now where Cove stands.




Also, here is an expanatory text & vision from The Sun Herald, May 1968:



^ A tad blurry or for those who have a small monitor, I'll enter it...

The picture above (posted below here) shows five of the multi-million dollar projects planned for a "new look" Sydney.

1. The $18 million Qantas headquarters.
2. The site of the new AMP centre at Circular Quay.
The AMP has yet to release their artist's impression of the new project.
This is a "Sun Herald" aritist's impression.
3. The new Royal Arcade building in George Street
4. The $24 million AMP Tower
5. New head office at the top of Martin Place for the Bank of N.S.W.




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Don't know about the vision, actually glad that it didnt eventuate, the skyline would have aged terribly. Height is good but those designs suck!!
Btw Cul (totally unrelated) is there anything planned for the site exactly across from that damn 4 storey club begging built?? (lowes site). I was walking on george the other day and realised that there are a string of 3 very low rise buildings currently there.
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