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Old June 20th, 2019, 08:39 PM   #1281
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Wohnen am Schweizer Garten: Bel & Main | 3x60m | under construction next to the main railway station





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Old June 20th, 2019, 08:54 PM   #1282
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Famous Leopoldmuseum home to one of the largest collections of modern Austrian art, featuring artists such as Egon Schiele, Gustav Klimt, Oskar Kokoschka is getting a rooftop expansion. / under construction





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Old June 20th, 2019, 10:09 PM   #1283
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New tower planned by MVDR in Vienna's 11th district. The hight has recently been increased to 120 meters. Soil evaluation has already started.







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Old June 21st, 2019, 10:12 AM   #1284
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It looks a little bit like a small version of Omniturm in Frankfurt.
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Old June 24th, 2019, 02:23 PM   #1285
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The highest tower in the middle and the three towers to the right are currently under construction, all at the same time.
The two towers on the left are already finished.
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Old July 4th, 2019, 01:49 AM   #1286
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The problem of Austria is that it is an anti-capitalist country. There are taxes, regulations, no growing wealth for the masses, no free trade. There is a lack of foreign investment, there is a lack of domestic investment. There is a lack of a social capital stock that is growing. There is a lack of freedom of people and the market and far too much that could develop in all directions is stifled by laws because interest groups want to profit. These are not exclusively Austrian problems.

Quite simple. In free capitalism, supply and demand find the best possible coverage. But we live in a system where there are offers that meet with criticism again and again. People like here in the forum complain that the architecture does not like them, that they do not like the ground floor zone. There is always the impression that there is a demand that remains unsatisfied. Of course, the owner must decide how he designs his project. But when the supply side is regulated, it lacks a competition that can cover a wide variety of needs. The call for the state destroys the city and a city organized and developed by state institutions does not depict people in their diversity, who would shape the appearance of a city through trade co-operation and property rights.

One thing is certain: if capitalism is allowed to develop again in Austria, it not only helps poor people - contrary to anti-capitalist propaganda - but also the environment of people to meet their needs.
Gonna have to agree with you there. I wouldn't go as far as to refer to Austria as "anti-capitalist", since we're clearly not a socialist nation either, but our government's unwillingness to establish having healthy investment rates as a long-term goal seems short-sighted to say the least. A welfare state can only be as effective as the economy that's backing it in the long run.

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How often do you want to come up with this bullshit again?

There’s a lot of anti capitalism countries with high quality architecture. And e.g. the U.S. as a capitalist country has also a very low standard of architecture and especially planning on public space.

Keep your capitalist propaganda for yourself. The system in Austria works very good. With a very low rate of unemployment, poverty, homelessness and it’a still one of the richest countries in the world. Even though it is such a welfare state.
I mean, US cities have some of the most impressive skylines in the world, but like, okay...

The only thing that comes close to the US and Canada in terms of skyscrapers (other than a couple of Arab oil states) are profoundly capitalist places such as Japan, Singapore, Hong Kong and the PRC, which only started to prosper once it embraced free markets/ post-Maoist state capitalism.
Socialist nations meanwhile....

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Such a bullshit we have to read from our chinese capitalist boy!!
There is nothing to say about these stupid words!
Austria is one of the richests countries in this world actually, has perfect infrastructure and social conditions, and Vienna is the city with the best quality for living in the whole world!
Never to compare with countries in the second row like China, and also not with the most capitalist country USA!
I can’t imagine many places to live better than in Austria!
Really funny and astonishing meaning!!
Wait, I thought we were arguing about buildings and not pitting the quality of life in a nation of 9 million against that of countries with 1.4 billion/ 340 million inhabitants respectively. The latter doesn't really seem to make a whole lot of sense tbh
Shanghai-boy's main line of argumentation seems to allude to the correlation between economic attractiveness and the development of skyscrapers, which is without a doubt one of the main reasons why you won't find a whole lot of them in Austria.

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Let UK cities be a warning to Vienna!

If you let developers start picking away at the historic centre pretty soon it loses its continuity. Before long another developer comes along and says 'this was allowed to be built, why not mine'.

It is a slippery slope!
That's why historic city centers and CBDs should be kept apart right from the beginning. There's nothing wrong with a city having more than one center, Tokyo (albeit much bigger) has multiple. I believe Paris does a decent job at this too and luckily Vienna has more than enough space to accommodate plenty of buildings outside its historic city center. Urban planning in London must be a big mess, huh?
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Behold the beauty of contemporary Viennese Architecture!

Before: (recently demolished)

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There's plenty of beauty to Vienna, but truth be told some of our contemporary buildings make Brutalism look decent in comparison...
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A people who praises that much far rights ideas absolutely deserves this. I feel not sorry at all for Vienna. It could even get worse, so at least the next generations would have more reasons to be ashamed of their parents and grand parents (though it seems even world war II wasn't enough for those people, so I'm afraid the entire destruction of Vienna wouldn't even be either)
I'm afraid we're doing quite alright for ourselves, sorry! :P

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Old July 4th, 2019, 08:30 AM   #1287
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In a European context Austria is a traditional capitalist country while Vienna probably has the highest quality of life in the world. So stop complaining people.
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Old July 6th, 2019, 07:02 PM   #1288
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This is awful, you'll likely be able to see this stupid thing from Maria Theresien-Platz. I wish Vienna wouldn't ruin it's historic cityscape and rooftop line with more and more ugly, unfittig, modern roof expansions.
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Old July 7th, 2019, 01:17 PM   #1289
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Oida. Of course u see it from that square as u already see that white concrete building from there. Museumsquartier area is a trendy place and it is awesome to relax there, have a drink, have a date, whatever and it is all about that mixture about historic and modern architecture and a really well done area and it will benefit even more from this platform with an amazing view for free. I like that project a lot. It is already nearly done from what I saw last time....
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Old July 9th, 2019, 09:25 AM   #1290
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Btw regarding the demolishment of historic buildings: Of course the Viennese government recognised it and there is already a new law that says every building built before 1945 and should be demolished needs a special agreement from the MA19 (department of architecture and city development in Vienna) which basically will only happen if there is really no point on keeping the building.

The government made this law really fast to stop a lot of planned deconstructions. The construction police stopped 70 deconstructions all over Vienna when the law took place. It even went so far that one building where its roof was already deconstructed the judge now decided they actually have to rebuild the roof.

So that's good news for Vienna for sure.

Here are two articles to this topic in German:

https://diepresse.com/home/panorama/...-fuer-hunderte

https://wien.orf.at/stories/3003511/
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Old July 9th, 2019, 09:44 AM   #1291
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Construction Update

Marina Tower | 145m | U/C

Two cranes are standing. Ground work shouldn't take too long anymore and the tower will be rising soon.

Webcam of construction works: https://webcam-stream.jamjam.at/id/marinatower/


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Btw they now plan a second tower right on the opposite side of the U2 metro tracks. This was always planned but with only 100m. New plannings say that 100m won't happen. Instead the tower will probably be way higher than that. They plan it as an office tower. Let's see.
Infos (German): http://auslobungen.next-pm.at/donaumarina_tower/
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Old July 12th, 2019, 06:24 PM   #1292
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The government made this law really fast to stop a lot of planned deconstructions. The construction police stopped 70 deconstructions all over Vienna when the law took place. It even went so far that one building where its roof was already deconstructed the judge now decided they actually have to rebuild the roof.
You forgot to mention that almost all of the demolitions stopped at that time already resumed and that the vast majority of these buildings are already gone by now.
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Old July 16th, 2019, 12:14 AM   #1293
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The problem with tearing down heritage is that once it's gone, it's gone forever. There's not really an undo button.

Some of the houses that have been demolished are simply stunning and awe-inspiring and don't understand how they could be demolished to make room for those replacement houses.

As for modern needs, kitchen or bathroom size etc, if Amsterdam has perfectly modernized 17th century houses then surely it's possible with a Wilhelmine period building?
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