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Old September 15th, 2006, 09:03 AM   #1
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Old September 15th, 2006, 09:05 AM   #2
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NYC can't build subway link unless it gets land

NEW YORK, Sept 7 (Reuters) - New York City cannot extend Manhattan's No. 7 subway to west Midtown unless a state authority sells it half of the land and certain development rights, a source familiar with the issues said on Thursday.

The No. 7 subway now stops at Times Square. Real estate experts say developers will not build in west Midtown without the new mass transit link.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg wanted to use a new financing arm to sell as much as $3 billion of bonds to pay for the subway extension, which would be the first in decades.

Though the city tried to strengthen the backing for the debt, most recently by pledging $1 billion of city funds over 10 years, financial experts say bondholders still want more assurances that there will be enough revenue to repay them.

The Republican mayor had hoped to entice developers to the desolate west Midtown area by offering reduced taxes. The tax revenue would then be used to help repay the new Hudson Yards bonds.

But the city cannot guarantee it can raise that money unless it controls development at the site, which runs from 30th Street to 33rd Street.

Otherwise, there is a risk that competing developers will build projects whose taxes cannot be used to repay the new bonds, said the source, who declined to be named.

"If (the city) doesn't give the bond market comfort that there will be no competition for the Hudson Rail Yards, it won't go ahead with the No. 7 line," he said.

The Metropolitan Transportation Authority, which runs New York City's bus, subway and commuter train lines, owns the 26-acre site.

A spokesman for the agency, which got Bloomberg's proposal for the land deal in July, said there was no new information. A mayoral spokeswoman had no immediate comment.

Last week, the MTA got a new appraisal valuing the eastern half of the site at nearly $1 billion more than the mayor offered to pay for it.

New York City's $300 million bid does not include a new $400 million platform that would have to be built over the rail yards. The mayor also envisions a less dense development with affordable housing -- two profit-cutting factors the appraisal does not reflect.

The city also offered the MTA $200 million for development rights for the western half of the site. This would enable the city to back its new bonds by selling developers the rights to build taller buildings and transferring air rights.
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Old October 10th, 2006, 02:15 AM   #3
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its official 7 LINE WILL BE EXTENDED TO WEST SIDE OF MIDTOWN , MANHATTAN.
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Old October 10th, 2006, 03:34 AM   #4
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I am sure that many know what the typical entrance for a NYC subway station looks like when it is underground, so here the rare ones that are throughout the boroughs.

63rd Dr-Rego Pk, Queens (G, R, V)


135th St-St Nicholas Ave, Manhattan (B, C)


190th St-Ft Washington Ave, Manhattan (A)


181st St-Ft Washington Ave (A)




Borough Hall, Brooklyn (2, 3, 4, 5)




72nd St-CPW, Manhattan (B, C)



Main St-Flushing, Queens (7)



169th St, Queens (F)


Jamaica-Van Wyck, Queens (E)


Franklin St, Manhattan (1)


Chambers St-Centre St, Manhattan (J, M, Z)


42nd St-GCT, Manhattan (4, 5, 6, 7)



28th St-Lexington Ave, Manhattan (6)


York St, Brooklyn (F)


Astor Pl, Manhattan (6)


14th St-Union Sq, Manhattan (4, 5, 6, L, N, R, W)


Atlantic Ave-Flatbush, Brooklyn (2, 3, 4, 5, B, Q)


Court St, Brooklyn (M, R)


5th Ave-53rd St, Manhattan (E, V)


Lexington Ave-3rd Ave, Manhattan (E, V)


Fulton St, Manhattan (2, 3, 4, 5, J, M, Z)


Brooklyn Br-City Hall, Manhattan (4, 5, 6)


28th St-Lexington Ave, Manhattan (6)


59th St-Lexington Ave, Manhattan (4, 5, 6)


Bowling Green, Manhattan (4, 5)


Wall St, Manhattan (4, 5)


34th St-Penn Station, Manhattan (1, 2, 3)


42nd St-Times Sq, Manhattan (1, 2, 3, 7, N, R, S, W)




50th St-Broadway, Manhattan (1)


5th Ave-Bryant Pk, Manhattan (7, B, D, F, V)


Clark St, Brooklyn (2, 3)


Botanic Garden, Brooklyn (S)


Canal St, Manhattan (6, J, M, N, Q, R, W, Z)


W 4th St-Washington Sq, Manhattan (A, B, C, D, E, F, V)


50th St-8th Ave, Manhattan (C, E)


59th St-Columbus Circle, Manhattan (1, A, B, C, D)


81st St-Musuem of Natural History, Manhattan (B, C)


110th St-CPW, Manhattan (B, C)


Prospect Pk, Brooklyn (B, Q, S)



Cortland St-WTC (R)


49th St, Manhattan (N, R, W)


51st St, Manhattan (6)


95th St-Bay Ridge, Brooklyn (R)


191st St, Manhattan (1)


68th St-Hunter College, Manhattan (6)


23rd St-Ely Ave, Queens (E, V)


Jamaica Ctr-Parsons-Archer, Queens (E, J, Z)


179th St, Queens (F)


66th St-Lincoln Ctr, Manhattan (1)


Hunts Pt Ave, The Bronx (6)


Kings Hwy-E 16th St, Brooklyn (B, Q)

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Old October 18th, 2006, 06:09 PM   #5
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Nice...a subway entrance that tells me I'm special.

Subway ride: $2
Morale boost: Priceless

There are some places buses won't ride. For everywhere else, there's the subway.

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I am sure that many know what the typical entrance for a NYC subway station looks like when it is underground, so here the rare ones that are throughout the boroughs.

63rd Dr-Rego Pk, Queens (G, R, V)
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Old October 19th, 2006, 08:01 AM   #6
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169th St, Queens (F)
Represent.

Happy Stinky Cabbage Day is January 12th, do not forget to commemorate the occasion.

-grafitti at said station
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Old October 30th, 2006, 01:31 PM   #7
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nice pictures!
I love the subway of New York, to my opinion it's one of the best subway system in the world. compared with the metro in paris, in nyc it's much easier and quicker to change from one train to another, in paris you have to walk a lot. compared with the underground in london, to get off the subway in nyc is also much quicker, in london, you usually have to take two long escalators to get out, and in front of the escalator there's always a queue.

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Old October 31st, 2006, 04:28 AM   #8
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Thanks for bringing this pictures to this forum, thanks you very much!!!!!!
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Old October 31st, 2006, 06:23 AM   #9
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I used to work in the building next to to this church, Trinity.

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Old November 6th, 2006, 06:43 AM   #10
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I noticed that nycsubway.org got some new photos of other special subway entrances.

5th Ave-59th St, Manhattan (N, R, W)


51st St, Manhattan (6)
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Old November 6th, 2006, 08:28 AM   #11
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Old November 7th, 2006, 03:57 AM   #12
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Good old days, ah that was the real NYC....

Is this the same subway car I see today being used for the A, D Trains?
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Old November 7th, 2006, 04:38 AM   #13
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wow this train is great, I never knew this one actually ran on the subway tracks. They should make something like this now, of course some idiots would find a way to ruin the carpet and cut up all the seats...but wow awesome interior..






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Old November 26th, 2006, 01:46 AM   #14
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One of the entrances to the Bowling Green station is getting a canopy over it.

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Old November 26th, 2006, 05:38 PM   #15
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awesome - that big bowling green entrance needed a makeover. i wonder if they tore up the cobble banks as well.
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November 28, 2006
Majesty vs. Practicality in Planning Downtown Subway Station
By WILLIAM NEUMAN
New York Times

With plans for a lofty, glass-domed subway station in Lower Manhattan, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority is reaching for the sky. But the project has repeatedly stumbled on the nitty-gritty realities underfoot.

Although the authority has an $844 million budget for a new glass-enclosed station at the corner of Fulton Street and Broadway, with enhanced connections for about a dozen subway lines, an additional $15 million is needed, planners say, to build an underground walkway about half a block long that would add the E train to the alphabet soup of connections.

Yesterday, the authority’s board members landed firmly on the side of function over form, saying they would gladly sacrifice architectural beauty if it meant that subway riders could transfer between trains more easily.

“I won’t support a project like this that is going to discombobulate tens of thousands of passengers a day because you want to have a fancy roof,” said Barry L. Feinstein, a board member.

He said it would be “unacceptable” to build the costly station complex without providing a connection between the nearby World Trade Center station on the E line and the Cortlandt Street station on the R and W lines. The Cortlandt Street station in turn would be connected by a new underground passage beneath Dey Street to the Fulton Street Transit Center, which will serve the A, C, J, M, Z, 2, 3, 4 and 5 lines.

Despite Mr. Feinstein’s predictions about the number of riders who would be affected, officials said it was not clear how many might use a connector to the E line. Mr. Feinstein was one of four board members who spoke out during an animated meeting of the board’s Capital Construction and Planning Committee.

“There has been a recurring theme among my board members that we don’t want a fancy building and a fancy roof,” said Nancy Shevell Blakeman, the committee’s chairwoman. “We are not building cathedrals here.”

The comments were aimed at Mysore Nagaraja, the authority’s president of capital construction, who said the domed station had been redesigned at least three times already because costs of other parts of the project had escalated. He said he favored including the connection to the E train.

“I’m still committed to making it happen, but I can’t do the impossible,” Mr. Nagaraja said. “If there is the money, then I will do it.” The budget for the project cannot be increased, but he said he would see if he could cut back on other parts of the project to free up the $15 million needed for the E-line connector.

The dome, intended to maximize the natural light entering the complex, would sit atop a 50-foot-high glass-enclosed building designed by the British architectural firm Grimshaw. The dome, which is called an oculus, was initially designed to be 50 feet high, taking the total height to about 100 feet, Mr. Nagaraja said, but it has already been scaled back to about 20 feet.

The project, to be completed by late 2009, will be paid for with federal funds dedicated to the rebuilding of Lower Manhattan after the destruction of the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001.

Mr. Nagaraja said that original estimates for the building and dome were $180 million, but that successive redesigns had trimmed the amount to $130 million. He said the oculus itself would cost about $15 million.

A major expense has been the cost of acquiring several buildings that had to be demolished for the project. Mr. Nagaraja said that real estate costs had risen from an estimated $50 million to $157 million, partly because of the overall increase in Manhattan real estate values. Most of the $844 million budget would be spent on rehabilitating existing subway stations and building the enhanced system of connectors.

In the frenzy of planning for a revived downtown, with weighty architectural statements being made a block away at the World Trade Center site, many officials at the transportation authority and at other agencies involved in the redevelopment saw the Fulton Street project as the authority’s chance to make a grand statement of its own.

But the project seems to have been shrinking almost from the beginning.

“In a project of this size, to not finish this connection makes no sense,” said another board member, Andrew Albert. “You want to connect everything that’s down there. If you have to build the Fulton transit center a little less opulent, you do it.”
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Old November 30th, 2006, 04:03 AM   #18
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Since I am on the subject of subway construction, I did hear about the MTA designing a free transfer center for the L train at Wyckoff Ave to where it meets the J an M trains, though the neighborhood did have to sacrifice something for it.

GOOD NEWS: You can now get a free tranfer to the L from the J and M trains w/o having to pay again.


BAD NEWS: The Ridgewood Diner, another classic chrome diner, was demolished in order for it to be built.
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Old December 5th, 2006, 02:00 AM   #19
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Some headhouses that are used by the subways were once part of other rail lines, while others were not.

116th St-Rockaway Pk, Queens (A, S)


Ave H, Brooklyn (Q)


Beverly Rd-E 15th St, Brooklyn (Q)


Cortelyou Rd, Brooklyn (Q)


Pelham Pkwy, The Bronx (5)


Morris Pk, The Bronx (5)


Gun Hill Rd-Dyre Ave, The Bronx (5)


Bowling Green, Manhattan (4, 5)


Metropolitain Ave-Middle Village, Queens (M)


149th St-Grand Concourse, The Bronx (2, 4, 5)


Atlantic Ave-Flatbush Ave, Brooklyn (2, 3, 4, 5, B, Q)


42nd St-Grand Central Terminal, Manhattan (4, 5, 6, 7, S)


72nd St-Broadway, Manhattan (1, 2, 3)



Stillwell Ave-Coney Island, Brooklyn (D, F, N, Q)


South Ferry, Manhattan (1)


Roosevelt Ave-Jackson Ave, Queens (E, F, G, R, V)

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Old December 5th, 2006, 11:56 AM   #20
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MTA to boost L, G lines service
December 5, 2006
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There's good news for Brooklyn subway riders in the MTA's 2007 budget -- service improvements on the beleaguered L and G lines.

Starting next spring, New York City Transit will run more trains on the overcrowded L during both peak and off-peak hours. Then in 2008, the G train -- long called the "step child" of the MTA -- will begin running south to five more Brooklyn stops.

"That's terrific," said Assemb. Joe Lentol (D-Brooklyn), who has long said his Greenpoint and Williamsburg district needs more subway service.

"They finally found this area is developing and I'm happy they caught up to the times."

The news was especially joyful to many residents since it was feared there would actually be service cuts to the G earlier this year.

Later this month, the MTA board is expected to approve the 2007 budget with the service upgrades.

"It was the unforeseen explosion in population of the Williamsburg-Greenpoint corridor and the resulting increase in train ridership," said New York City Transit spokesman Charlie Seaton.

During peak morning and evening hours, New York City Transit tries to run a train every four minutes. But even then, riders often find the trains too packed to step on board.

"Practically any time of day or night it is jammed," said Beverly Dolinsky, executive director of the Permanent Citizens Advisory Committee to the MTA.

The MTA admitted in July that it hasn't anticipated the growth.

It's unclear how many more trains will run per day but riders were thankful nonetheless.

"The more the better," said Moses Schwartz, 26, who takes the L every day from Williamsburg to Manhattan.

Beginning in 2008, the G train, which normally stops at Smith and 9th Sts. will continue down the F tracks five more stops to Church Avenue. Rival "hip" neighborhoods of Williamsburg and Park Slope will now be connected with a one-seat ride.

But before riders can rejoice, New York City Transit warns that the service upgrade may be temporary. The G service could be cut again after 2009 once track upgrades near the Smith-9th Sts. stop are complete and trains can use it as a turn-around again.

And the fight isn't over for the G. Lentol wants the G to once again run all the way through Queens to Forest Hills-71st Street. Currently, it only does so during off-peak times.

"Maybe we'll get it five years from now," he said.
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