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Old September 9th, 2019, 11:43 PM   #15261
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I agree. American cities downtowns seems to be almost empty compared to European cities, whose downtowns are much more crowded.
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god jesus that rotterdam pic, i ran out of tissues
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Old September 10th, 2019, 12:03 AM   #15263
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Old September 10th, 2019, 12:18 AM   #15264
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Old September 10th, 2019, 01:00 AM   #15265
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Hard disagree. Just having a cluster doesn't make a city look American, the style of skyscrapers is what makes London look like an American city. I wouldn't say that Paris, Rotterdam, Milan, Hong Kong or Moscow look american, for example.
?? ALL those cities, except Milan look AS American or MORE American than London in their skyscraper areas.

Rotterdam looks like a more contemporary version of an American provincial city and Warsaw (above) looks like Milwaukee or somewhere.
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Old September 10th, 2019, 01:12 AM   #15266
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"All the skylines have the goal to be american!
It’s a bit hypocrite to not recognize it.
All those cities will battle to look bigger,taller and spreading the idea of an economic power.

That’s the scheme which paves the way of american and world skyline since the beginning"

Maybe in Asia, NOT in Europe, London has been a major global city and an economic powerhouse for a thousand years, it doesn't NEED to 'look American' and that has never been its goal. I imagine the same applies to Paris and other European cities.

London was the first capital city with tarmacadam roads, railways and underground, NYC has them too but I don't think anybody accused them of trying to 'look British'
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Old September 10th, 2019, 07:50 AM   #15267
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Sorry but the ‘mother’ of skylines is NYC.
If you look at London masterplan for the future, you notice right now that the forest of buildings scheduled reminds NYC.

All european major cities will have an identity in the center close to what have been made in the USA decades before.

The ancient architecture surrounding european center is the only difference. But the way that drives to the overall is the same (rise of price square by meter, need to densify centers etc.)
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Old September 10th, 2019, 11:19 AM   #15268
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Old September 10th, 2019, 11:31 AM   #15269
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Look at NYC, Chicago
Paris La défense looks like sometimes a LA syline
Rotterdam looks like some part of mid rise parts of NYC
Agree with you, but you forgot RTM-NYC

NYC
Midtown Manhatten ... by Heiko Ni, on Flickr

RTM

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Old September 10th, 2019, 01:48 PM   #15270
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Actually, I don't find that Paris La Defense skyline look like an american skyline.

Many differences :
- the construction of LD on a pedestrian slabs (almost unique since the French architect Le Corbusier and his urbanist friend Gabriel Voisin invented the concept);
- the construction of many towers with balconies and terraces that is quite specific to La Défense (as I have already mentioned on this thread);
-The presence of very specific landmark such as La Grande Arche or the CNIT which have no equivalents;
-The mixture of tower dated from 1970s and early 2000s, which are the two dominants periods of construction at La Défense.

However, from this point of view, I can't argue, so much

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Old September 10th, 2019, 01:51 PM   #15271
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Although that picture of Rotterdam is nice - but lets not compare it with NY. In Europe only London, Paris, Istanbul and Moscow are comparable in size with the big apple...
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Old September 10th, 2019, 01:55 PM   #15272
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you are absolutely right. The only similarities between La Défense and an American skyline is the presence of tall buildings. The same can be said for most other European skylines. That is where the similarity stops .

Of course if you take a snapshot of a small section of any skyline you may be able to compare it to another. But take the wider view and all look unique (as do most North American skyline).
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Old September 10th, 2019, 04:07 PM   #15273
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Agree with you, but you forgot RTM-NYC
read again the post i mentionned it

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Is it a joke?

Rotterdam looks like some part of mid rise parts of NYC
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Old September 11th, 2019, 08:01 AM   #15274
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Actually, I don't find that Paris La Defense skyline look like an american skyline.

Many differences :
- the construction of LD on a pedestrian slabs (almost unique since the French architect Le Corbusier and his urbanist friend Gabriel Voisin invented the concept);
- the construction of many towers with balconies and terraces that is quite specific to La Défense (as I have already mentioned on this thread);
-The presence of very specific landmark such as La Grande Arche or the CNIT which have no equivalents;
-The mixture of tower dated from 1970s and early 2000s, which are the two dominants periods of construction at La Défense.

However, from this point of view, I can't argue, so much

Tribute to Vincent1746 who make my favorite pictures of LD.
In addition, the rectangular buildings of LA look too cheap and boring compared to Paris La Defense. Maybe it's LA and other American cities should do their best to look like Paris not vice versa
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Old September 11th, 2019, 09:55 AM   #15275
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Old September 11th, 2019, 10:23 AM   #15276
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From a distance or in the darkness many cities may look like many other, skyscrapers or not... If you look more closely, you can clearly see the difference in design and urban planning between the US and EU.

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All the skylines have the goal to be american!
Lol, no. It's just a result of... having skyscrapers. They will always be in some way similar, just like a residential neighbourhoods with family houses in the US and EU will look SOMEWHAT similar from the distance, because you'll just see plenty of rooftops. Doesn't change the fact that they are very different.
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Old September 11th, 2019, 10:27 AM   #15277
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Is it a joke?
look at NYC, Chicago
Look from a medium sized american city to another bigger one and you'll see that you have in Europe a lot of cities which skylines start to look like to american couterparts without to be on par to them
Rotterdam looks like some part of mid rise parts of NYC
Paris La défense looks like sometimes a LA syline

example:

Chicago:



London CW:

Canary wharf is the future. by Jordi Corbilla, sur Flickr

Los Angeles:
2010 Los Angeles Skyline 001 by stepper77, sur Flickr

Paris LD:
La Défense, Paris by St James Gate, sur Flickr

you said ?
Very persuasive. I think most Londoners would be rather pleased that the city’s second cluster, Canary Wharf, is comparable with the immortal drama of the Chicago skyline.

And yes, La Defense very much resembles LA.

I also agree with the commenter who compared London to Shanghai. They share a similar buzz and dynamism, with a poetic hint of rainy melancholy.
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Old September 11th, 2019, 12:10 PM   #15278
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In addition, the rectangular buildings of LA look too cheap and boring compared to Paris La Defense. Maybe it's LA and other American cities should do their best to look like Paris not vice versa
Maybe, my favorite skyline in the world are both in the EU (still ), in the US and in Australia. Without specific order I think that this skyline are the best of the world:
-Paris (the perfect balance between ancien and modernity)
-London (best quality and architectural effort)
-NY (big apple, what else should be said)
-San Francisco (no skyline can express freedom as SF skyline from Dolores Park)
-Sydney (no other skyline can express modern western world thant Sydney skyline)

This should be the Five model in my opinion. Not the biggest (except NY), not the tallest, but just the more balanced. It is not a surprise that it is the best five cities in the world, and it is not IMO .
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Old September 11th, 2019, 01:24 PM   #15279
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Moscow, new embankment in a place of a former industrial zone.
Shelepihinskaya embankment. Nice skyline.

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Old September 11th, 2019, 03:22 PM   #15280
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I thought this was a pretty good view:

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