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Old August 31st, 2019, 03:38 PM   #5841
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Yes, now this is more like it, Khed city is more comparable project with gift rather than an IT park
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Old September 1st, 2019, 08:23 AM   #5842
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Seems like you guys haven’t been to or seen Kharadi , that’s why you say it can’t be compared with GIFT !
Firstly, Kharadi is not a single IT Park so stop assuming that I am trying to compare one IT Park Vs. entire GIFT City ! That’s your assumption, not mine !

Now, let me inform Why Kharadi should be compared with GIFT …is due to their similarities:-

1) Firstly, Kharadi is an area like Koba / Kudasan, its not a single IT Park…Kharadi was actually a remote village region in Pune which had drinking water scarcity so no one used to live there…it got developed in last 5-7 years (timeline matching with GIFT, however, GIFT development delayed or just started) . In these 7 years, Kharadi now hosts “cluster” of IT Parks like:-
a) Eon IT SEZ (really gigantic, with top MNCs)
b) WTC Buildings
c) Global Business Hub
d) Zensar Park
e) Commerzone
2) All top global financial giants (which GIFT is supposed to have ) like :- CitiBank, Credit Suisse , Barclays , UBS, HSBC, Northen Trust Bank, Sunguard Financial Technology, Tieto , FIS Global etc…are now in Kharadi !

3) WTC (which GIFT is supposed to have) Here, WTC has multiple buildings not just one:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=5m34s&v=qQVXL_AzcgI

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Old September 1st, 2019, 09:06 AM   #5843
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Gurgaon, Bengaluru, and Hyderabad have even bigger commercial clusters. Your point is...?
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Old September 1st, 2019, 04:42 PM   #5844
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Seems like you guys haven’t been to or seen Kharadi , that’s why you say it can’t be compared with GIFT !
Firstly, Kharadi is not a single IT Park so stop assuming that I am trying to compare one IT Park Vs. entire GIFT City ! That’s your assumption, not mine !

Now, let me inform Why Kharadi should be compared with GIFT …is due to their similarities:-

1) Firstly, Kharadi is an area like Koba / Kudasan, its not a single IT Park…Kharadi was actually a remote village region in Pune which had drinking water scarcity so no one used to live there…it got developed in last 5-7 years (timeline matching with GIFT, however, GIFT development delayed or just started) . In these 7 years, Kharadi now hosts “cluster” of IT Parks like:-
a) Eon IT SEZ (really gigantic, with top MNCs)
b) WTC Buildings
c) Global Business Hub
d) Zensar Park
e) Commerzone
2) All top global financial giants (which GIFT is supposed to have ) like :- CitiBank, Credit Suisse , Barclays , UBS, HSBC, Northen Trust Bank, Sunguard Financial Technology, Tieto , FIS Global etc…are now in Kharadi !

3) WTC (which GIFT is supposed to have) Here, WTC has multiple buildings not just one:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=5m34s&v=qQVXL_AzcgI

Few real pics attached...









Lol, what is the annual trading volume of Kharadi?? Having offices of multinational banks is different than having international trading facilities, Gift's goal is not to have normal offices of international banks, its goal is to attract stock market trading of international and domestic firms, that's what "international finance city means"....It requires much less office space compared to what it takes to open a normal headquarter office for regular banking services, so you won't see companies occupying entire buildings like you see in IT parks of other SEZs, so WTC don't have to build multiple buildings, and you forgot to mention that WTC in gift will have one tower of 30 floors and other of 18 floors while WTC at Kharadi has 3 towers with 9 floors each

And second, physical infrastructure of kharadi is nothing special, it's similar to any other outskirts area of big Indian cities, while gift has underground utility network like first world countries, so in terms of physical infrastructure and local area planning Gift is way ahead of any other SEZ in India....Kharadi is administered by PMC, while GIFT is completely Greenfield and Independent from Ahmadabad or Gandhinagar, it has its own administration, so you are comparing a brownfield SEZ with a green field one

And I don't understand what is so special about developing villages that are now part of the city or SEZs, Kharadi is very close to Pune, it's part of its outskirts, Ahmadabad or for that matter every city in Gujarat has developed so many villages surrounding the city through urban expansion, 90% areas of Ahmedabad are named after pre existed villages for example motera, vastral, Bopal, Ambli, thaltej, vastrapur etc etc

And Kharadi is a special economic zone (SEZ) meant for service sector, there are so many SEZs like this in cities like Pune, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Chennai, Gurugram etc etc.... Gift is also a service sector SEZ but of a different kind, it is for international financial services not for IT or banking units, it's first of its kind in India, that is why GIFT is not comparable to kharadi or for that matter any other SEZs in India

And Gujarat has the largest amount of land allocated under SEZs but all of them are industrial, this is the first one for service sector and especially finances, companies generally tend to invest in cities that already has strong service sector, so cities like Pune, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Chennai etc etc has more advantage over Gift when it comes to IT companies or normal multinational headquarters of banks or other companies, because kharadi might be 7 years old but Infosys entered Pune in 90s
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Old September 3rd, 2019, 07:41 AM   #5845
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Seems like you guys haven’t been to or seen Kharadi , that’s why you say it can’t be compared with GIFT !
Firstly, Kharadi is not a single IT Park so stop assuming that I am trying to compare one IT Park Vs. entire GIFT City ! That’s your assumption, not mine !

Now, let me inform Why Kharadi should be compared with GIFT …is due to their similarities:-

1) Firstly, Kharadi is an area like Koba / Kudasan, its not a single IT Park…Kharadi was actually a remote village region in Pune which had drinking water scarcity so no one used to live there…it got developed in last 5-7 years (timeline matching with GIFT, however, GIFT development delayed or just started) . In these 7 years, Kharadi now hosts “cluster” of IT Parks like:-
a) Eon IT SEZ (really gigantic, with top MNCs)
b) WTC Buildings
c) Global Business Hub
d) Zensar Park
e) Commerzone
2) All top global financial giants (which GIFT is supposed to have ) like :- CitiBank, Credit Suisse , Barclays , UBS, HSBC, Northen Trust Bank, Sunguard Financial Technology, Tieto , FIS Global etc…are now in Kharadi !

3) WTC (which GIFT is supposed to have) Here, WTC has multiple buildings not just one:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=5m34s&v=qQVXL_AzcgI
Please don't compare GIFT with Kharadi. If you do compare, take Kharadi as an example of how an SEZ should NOT be developed.

I currently work in Kharadi from one of those buildings in the photos.
Yes. The buildings are all fine. But the moment you step out of the buildings, it is really bad.
1. One half of this region is not even with Pune Corporation limits. It is under Gram panchayat, which means there are no water lines, no sewage lines, no garbage disposal system and no absolutely no traffic mgmt.
2. The areas within the corporation limits also fare only slightly better.
3. Apart from a few wide roads around the area (some are not yet completed), there is absolutely no infrastructure. No public transport. A few money making corporate type schools, just a couple of hospitals, no big supermarkets except one reliance smart, no parks, recreational spaces, not even decent restaurants, nothing else other than lots of petty shops.
4. They have just built a huge number of apartments without any planning. So, traffic is absolutely haphazard, no place for pedestrians. The road quality is very bad with many inner roads not even with proper tar topping.
5. simply due to these glitzy offices, the rents have increased 4-5 times in last few years. Houses that were going for Rs 10000 per month a few years ago are now 30,000.
6. You have all of these gated communities that are nice inside the walls, with absolutely nothing outside.

Classic example of land grabbing first and then building infrastructure 20 years later. This place would have been really great if only they had shown a tiniest amount of planning.

I sincerely hope GIFT does not go like this.
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Old September 9th, 2019, 07:59 AM   #5846
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GIFT News Letter of Aug 2019 is Out now...!

Hi Friends, I just checked on web, that GIFT website has updated news letter of August 2019. To see this news letter, click the link below,


http://www.giftgujarat.in/documents/..._aug_-2019.pdf

Enjoys updates. Cheers.
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Old September 10th, 2019, 08:27 AM   #5847
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Old September 10th, 2019, 08:43 AM   #5848
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Please don't compare GIFT with Kharadi. If you do compare, take Kharadi as an example of how an SEZ should NOT be developed.

I currently work in Kharadi from one of those buildings in the photos.
Yes. The buildings are all fine. But the moment you step out of the buildings, it is really bad.
1. One half of this region is not even with Pune Corporation limits. It is under Gram panchayat, which means there are no water lines, no sewage lines, no garbage disposal system and no absolutely no traffic mgmt.
2. The areas within the corporation limits also fare only slightly better.
3. Apart from a few wide roads around the area (some are not yet completed), there is absolutely no infrastructure. No public transport. A few money making corporate type schools, just a couple of hospitals, no big supermarkets except one reliance smart, no parks, recreational spaces, not even decent restaurants, nothing else other than lots of petty shops.
4. They have just built a huge number of apartments without any planning. So, traffic is absolutely haphazard, no place for pedestrians. The road quality is very bad with many inner roads not even with proper tar topping.
5. simply due to these glitzy offices, the rents have increased 4-5 times in last few years. Houses that were going for Rs 10000 per month a few years ago are now 30,000.
6. You have all of these gated communities that are nice inside the walls, with absolutely nothing outside.

Classic example of land grabbing first and then building infrastructure 20 years later. This place would have been really great if only they had shown a tiniest amount of planning.

I sincerely hope GIFT does not go like this.

This sounds like the story of South East Bangalore.Except of course Bangalore was an established city
so the infrastructure is better.(while not relative to population growth)

Though your last point is more associated with Noida/Gurgaon.
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Old September 11th, 2019, 05:37 AM   #5849
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New video of gift city

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i am wondering and upset a bit for the reason like AMZON has build biggest corporate tower in Hyderabad and not in Gandhinagar this is another failure of Gujarat govt.!!!!!
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i am wondering and upset a bit for the reason like AMZON has build biggest corporate tower in Hyderabad and not in Gandhinagar this is another failure of Gujarat govt.!!!!!
Gujarat will have to find another Modi as CM to get services kickstarted in GJ.

Current dispensation in Gandhinagar is lacking in vision, drive and hard-work. If NaMo had lost 2019 – IFSC would have moved to Mumbai.

GoG has not been able to find suitable replacement for IL&FS yet. Someone like L&T would have done wonders to GIFT as serious Fin-Tech destination. More than 5+yrs and first residential project is yet to take off.

Just doing some drama during Vibrant GJ is not going to help. Announce special social norms for GIFT (Liquor etc), use CBN tactics, Gujarati clout (Mumbai) and NaMo’s influence to make GIFT a truly aspirational city ----------- does Rupani have it in him?
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Old Yesterday, 11:30 AM   #5854
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i am wondering and upset a bit for the reason like AMZON has build biggest corporate tower in Hyderabad and not in Gandhinagar this is another failure of Gujarat govt.!!!!!
Reliance setting up the world's biggest refinery in Jamnagar is a failure of the Andhra govt?
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Recently, Amazon choose to expand in Pune (apart from Hyd) :-

https://www.financialexpress.com/ind...india/1690617/
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Would ask you again, how is that relevant to GIFT city? Please refrain from posting unrelated news here and derail the thread.
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i am wondering and upset a bit for the reason like AMZON has build biggest corporate tower in Hyderabad and not in Gandhinagar this is another failure of Gujarat govt.!!!!!
Let's see. Hyderabad is an established Tech city. Naidu managed to get Microsoft there when even Karnataka couldn't. Apart from that, KCR and KTR are pretty proactive when it comes to attracting investments.

Gujarat is a damp squib since Modi went to Delhi. While I admit Rupani is marginally better than Anandiben Patel, he's still not the kind of guy who instills confidence.

Oh, and the booze factor is also a major bummer.

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Reliance setting up the world's biggest refinery in Jamnagar is a failure of the Andhra govt?
Indeed it is. Don't you know, Jagan Reddy overslept for a meeting so Motabhai decided to go to Jamnagar instead?
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Reliance setting up the world's biggest refinery in Jamnagar is a failure of the Andhra govt?
my dear friend relience owner wasnt andhrite...and more important AMAZON is foreign investor
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Would ask you again, how is that relevant to GIFT city? Please refrain from posting unrelated news here and derail the thread.
can i ask you what is relevant for yo then??????
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can i ask you what is relevant for yo then??????
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