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Old November 17th, 2013, 02:15 AM   #101
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Well, I did say arguably, didn't I?

I think it's definitely true for East Link though. The other stations on the line are already developed or developing or have no potential.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 10:43 AM   #102
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We're completely fooling ourselves if we believe this combination of land-use regulations and mass transit construction comes anywhere near a "big city" model. Sure, if we permitted a forest of high-rise (I mean 50 story high-rises) living towers within a fifteen minute walk of the transit stations, then we'd be doing something. But spending BILLIONS for rail and then putting in basically a suburban apartment sprawl and strip malls is a joke. They won't even have a measurable impact on ridership. And people will continue to turn left or fall asleep on the tracks until we finish the do-over. Okay, I did manage to shut up about this for a year. I'll go away again.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 11:10 AM   #103
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Except they're not building strip malls and suburban apartment sprawl. Suburban apartment sprawl is two-three story apartments with at least 1 surface parking space per unit. What we're building around our stations is four - twelve story apartments with underground parking. Sure I'd love to see high rises but you can get densities that are very respectable with low to mid rise apartments, just look at D.C. and San Francisco. 2,000 units on 30 acres is a respectable density, and it's only 1 of 3 big projects planned for the bel-red corridor. I'm with M on this, I see a lot of opportunity around the stations. No one ever said it would happen over night either.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 07:29 PM   #104
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There's no reason it has to be this way. It's our own fault we keep taking short cuts, from the surface rail through Southeast Seattle to the horrible routing through South Bellevue and the freeway stations with no TOD potential in North Seattle and beyond. And where we could probably have high-density development, like Capitol Hill or Roosevelt, NIMBY opposition would prevent it. It's all very disappointing.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 08:52 PM   #105
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There's no reason it has to be this way. It's our own fault we keep taking short cuts, from the surface rail through Southeast Seattle to the horrible routing through South Bellevue and the freeway stations with no TOD potential in North Seattle and beyond. And where we could probably have high-density development, like Capitol Hill or Roosevelt, NIMBY opposition would prevent it. It's all very disappointing.
Sure they've made some bad choices. I'll say it's a live and learn (at great expense). I understand the reasoning behind surface through Rainier Valley and hope others do and realize this was not a political, ecumenical, or racial (even) decision.

To be honest, the biggest design mistake and expense I've seen thus far is the addition of a 3rd entrance at the Capitol Hill Station. I have NOT crunched the numbers, but eliminating that entrance would probably opened enough money to extend south to Federal Way. There's no need for it or the tunnel to connect to the station. Such would make more sense if Broadway were such a difficult street to traverse as the next station entrance is about 50 steps away. Just silly.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 09:25 PM   #106
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I assume you're be facetious about extending to Federal Way at that price.
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Old November 17th, 2013, 10:34 PM   #107
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I assume you're be facetious about extending to Federal Way at that price.
Not necessarily.

Construction to 200th (funded), in planning to Highline (partially funded). Next station is Star Lake and that whole extent is above grade. Probably not enough to do the full thing, but certainly is money better spent to capture more riders rather than providing a rain free street crossing.
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I'm gonna have to disagree. It's not about a rain free street crossing. It's about allowing people to connect quickly. Waiting two minutes at a crosswalk could mean being late to work or missing a connection with a bus.
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We will always be flummoxed by numbers. It is hopeless.
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I don't know what the tunnel costs, but it's a tiny fraction of the cost of Federal Way.

And I agree that the tunnel is about speed, in addition to rain. Being a little closer to 10,000 students at SCCC seems worth it.
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Kind of a deceiving headline. The city wants affordable housing but not necessarily part of the Spring District.

http://crosscut.com/2014/07/17/urban...k-affordable-/
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Old November 28th, 2014, 09:48 AM   #113
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Nice to see they're planning for some height variety in the Spring District.
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I haven't had a chance to drive by this project, is it underway or are they just clearing land at this point? Just curious of the status, as this is a MAJOR project! Very cool stuff coming down the pipeline in the next few years...
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Old March 12th, 2015, 01:17 AM   #116
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Never expected this but a good ideal overall.
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Interesting. I'd rather see them stay in the U District with this pending upzone. Plenty of room in their own neighborhood. Harvard's version of this, the Harvard Innovation Lab is right here on the edge of the HBS campus and the close, walkable proximity of it makes it much more useable for students and recent grads who already live in the area.
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Old March 12th, 2015, 01:34 AM   #118
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I think they're concerned about the protest to the upzone. That'd be my guess.
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Old March 12th, 2015, 02:31 AM   #119
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I can see the logic in having this particular graduate school set amidst the largest concentration of tech firms in the state, although I too think being set in the University District might help jumpstart more quality development.
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I think they're concerned about the protest to the upzone. That'd be my guess.
I'd bet a huge sum of money that behind closed doors they give zero ****s about protests to the upzone. UW owns that neighborhood and NIMBYs aren't going to get in their way.
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