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Old February 28th, 2015, 01:54 AM   #1
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The Penny Brook
Stratford
E20


Planning application: London Legacy Development Corporation 15/00041/REM


Development Facts

Site: Plot N17, Zone 3, Stratford City, London E20

Developer: Union Hanover Securities

Architect: Grzywinski + Pons Architects

Hotel rooms: 249 (Penny Brook) and 137 (Adagio)

Conference space: 1270m²

Ground floor restaurant: 530m²

Top floor restaurant: 276m²

Top floor lounge: 276m²

Cost: £100 million

Floors: 25





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Old February 28th, 2015, 02:37 AM   #2
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Perhaps the best design I've seen proposed for a London skyscraper since joining the forum. Totally different from anything else on the architect's website, seems like the sort of building that could propel them into stardom. Remind me a lot of Richard Seifert, but with some of the Milan forest-skyscraper by Stefano Boeri mixed in.
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Old February 28th, 2015, 02:51 AM   #3
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Finally architects who don't shy away from expressing their admiration for brutalism:

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The warmth, tactility and durability of brass and concrete softened further by the
addition of timber in conjunction with glass and a warm gray finish on finely detailed and
taut metal paneling - these comprise the foundation of our palette and are love letters
both to London Brutalism and Soho’s Cast Iron District in New York, albeit a bit softer,
friendlier even.
Here's some more renders:

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Old February 28th, 2015, 04:06 AM   #4
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Really nice!! Those arches are very elegant.

Are those buildings behind it already standing or is this one huge block rising at the same time?
If it's the latter it's interesting to see the architect put a conscious effort to making it look like three different buildings. Very 'humanizing'
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Old February 28th, 2015, 05:04 AM   #5
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This is too good to ever get built.
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Old February 28th, 2015, 09:19 AM   #6
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That really is something different. Brilliant design. It shows you can create spectacular buildings with smaller heights. It would be good to see this sort of out of the box thinking in areas where heights are limited. SE9's image looks more like central London. Stratford is going from strength to strength.
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Old February 28th, 2015, 10:22 AM   #7
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Right opposite the Manhattan Loft Gardens, my 308 bus trip to work is going to be exciting. I hope this acts a kick up the a*** for all the other developments here in Stratford, after all things can only get better.
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Old February 28th, 2015, 11:28 AM   #8
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That's rather splendid and unexpected.
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Old February 28th, 2015, 03:20 PM   #9
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if that's built I'll actually go to stratford
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Old February 28th, 2015, 03:53 PM   #10
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wow! This is gorgeous!
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Old February 28th, 2015, 04:12 PM   #11
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It's very nice... that side. Then you turn the corner and it's just another messy block out the back.


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This is too good to ever get built.
This, no doubt it will be built with significant changes.
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Old February 28th, 2015, 06:39 PM   #13
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Construction should start this year, as the hotel firm is in a "lowly leveraged" situation on this development, according to http://www.bighospitality.co.uk/Venu...he-Penny-Brook

The architect has designed interiors for a hotel in Brentford for the same firm, called Urban Villa London. The inside of that one looks fantastic, lots of exposed concrete etc.
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Old February 28th, 2015, 07:31 PM   #14
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Really nice development, something original. But those 'hanging gardens' simply will not happen.
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Old February 28th, 2015, 08:05 PM   #15
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Scrolling down the headline image on my tablet produced the following reactions in order. Ok... Lovely... Very good aaannnnnnd they've shit the bed. The base is a total mess, like a mash up of a church organ, a branch of Floors To Go and a garden centre. It looks weirdly attractive as pixels but on an overcast Tuesday afternoon in January in real life it'll be a dog's breakfast. Shame, as the top two thirds of it are smashing.
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That is really cool! Shame it couldn't be built in central London.
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The arches remind me of Brasilia
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In my view that is an insult to Oscar Niemeyer. The proposed building isn't so much as a scratch on Niemeyer. It's messy, confused, poorly-balanced. The ground floor has particularly nonsensical geometry.

I do like the combination of brass and raw concrete, and the window expression has some interest, but realistically the green plants will not survive and it will begin to look like a fairly average 1960s Seifert building.

The arched stilts are the only truly "special" feature, but they're let down by a messy and senseless arrangement of floor heights.

The design has potential, but I think it is being too readily embraced simply because it is "different".
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In my view that is an insult to Oscar Niemeyer. The proposed building isn't so much as a scratch on Niemeyer. It's messy, confused, poorly-balanced. The ground floor has particularly nonsensical geometry.

I do like the combination of brass and raw concrete, and the window expression has some interest, but realistically the green plants will not survive and it will begin to look like a fairly average 1960s Seifert building.

The arched stilts are the only truly "special" feature, but they're let down by a messy and senseless arrangement of floor heights.

The design has potential, but I think it is being too readily embraced simply because it is "different".
I agree with much of the above - kudos to the architects for thinking outside the box (no pun). I think it's an interesting building - though I wouldn't necessarily want to see many others of the same. As you point out perhaps if the base were reworked - opened out, removed, it might work better. Daring sometimes facilitates panache - on those grounds even if pretty much constructed as is, it wouldn't be a disaster.
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Perhaps the best design I've seen proposed for a London skyscraper since joining the forum. Totally different from anything else on the architect's website, seems like the sort of building that could propel them into stardom. Remind me a lot of Richard Seifert, but with some of the Milan forest-skyscraper by Stefano Boeri mixed in.
I totally agree. This is brilliant
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