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Old June 27th, 2018, 05:02 AM   #101
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Dont you guys think 48 teams is just too much?? Why 48? not 34 or 36?
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Old June 27th, 2018, 06:48 AM   #102
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I would say yes. Especially since a good 50 FIFA members are "fake" countries and probably 100 have no real chance of even getting into the WC. (Btw, I am not getting into a discussion of what I mean by "fake" countries; and I won't debate which have no real chance ).

But dropping back to 32 also means you will exclude some fairly strong European sides or you will have to eliminate weaker sides from Africa, Oceania and others. Adding 16 makes it much easier to make this choice while increasing total revenues. And you can always skip the uninteresting matches that will be generated.
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Old June 27th, 2018, 08:32 AM   #103
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Dont you guys think 48 teams is just too much?? Why 48? not 34 or 36?
I was hoping for 96.

Just kidding. But it is kinda ridiculous. If Canada and Mexico didn't join in, then the 48 contiguous US states would've hosted one team each, right?

So, with 48 slots -- or really just 45 in contention, that would shorten the elimination playoffs too, right? And the matching of the Prelim pools would all be three countries from totally different continents -- altho, of course, the finals would always come down to the powerhouses: Brazil, Germany, Spain, Italy France, Argentina, and a few others.
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Old June 27th, 2018, 07:00 PM   #104
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I was hoping for 96.

Just kidding. But it is kinda ridiculous. If Canada and Mexico didn't join in, then the 48 contiguous US states would've hosted one team each, right?

So, with 48 slots -- or really just 45 in contention, that would shorten the elimination playoffs too, right? And the matching of the Prelim pools would all be three countries from totally different continents -- altho, of course, the finals would always come down to the powerhouses: Brazil, Germany, Spain, Italy France, Argentina, and a few others.
The proposed method (16 groups of 3 who play each other; 2 advance to the 32 team knock-out round) results in about the same number of matches and supposedly a comparable risk of a powerhouse being knocked out by one lucky goal.

The real play of course is more money, but the side benefit is that you can let in more Asian, African and N. American sides, thereby increasing interest in those areas, without knocking out pretty good European sides (e.g., this year Holland, Italy and the US would likely have gotten into a 48 team tournament); 32 teams eliminated them.
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Old November 9th, 2018, 07:19 AM   #105
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Infantino today has come out to confirm that 48 teams will NOT be the standard for the 2026 World cup
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Old November 9th, 2018, 07:33 AM   #106
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Infantino today has come out to confirm that 48 teams will NOT be the standard for the 2026 World cup
I assume you mean the 2022 WC in Qatar?
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Old June 14th, 2019, 11:41 PM   #107
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China to use 2030 World Cup proposal as trial for 2034 bid




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China will submit a bid to host the 2030 Fifa World Cup as a trial run ahead of a further bid to host the 2034 tournament, according to a report from Hong Kong outlet the South China Morning Post.

The report states that the submission of the country’s bid will come in May 2019, when Fifa president Gianni Infantino visits the country. It has been widely reported that China would bid to host soccer’s centenary edition of the World Cup.

However, a source has told the newspaper that the 2030 proposal is likely to be used as a testing opportunity ahead of a further bid for the following edition of the tournament in 2034.

In 2011, the country’s president, Xi Jinping, announced his ambition to bring the World Cup to China. Last year, he met with Infantino in order to further declare his interest in hosting the competition.

The jointly held 2002 edition in Japan and South Korea is, thus far, the only time that the competition has been held in Asia. However, Qatar is due to host the 2022 tournament.

In November 2017, China coach Marcello Lippi, who won the tournament with his native Italy in 2006, told news outlet Chengdu Business Daily: “What I also want to tell you is that the Chinese FA will bid for the 2030 World Cup.”

China could face Asian competition for the 2034 tournament in the form of a joint bid from the national soccer governing bodies of Indonesia, Thailand and Vietnam, who have shown interest in putting forward a bid, which could also include Malaysia. The proposal has already received backing from the Asean Football Federation (AFF), a smaller organisation within the greater Asian Football Confederation that centres on south-east Asian soccer nations

The 2026 edition of the tournament will take place in the United States, Canada and Mexico, after the United Bid trumped a proposal from Morocco.

The bidding race for the 2030 edition of soccer’s international showpiece is not yet officially open, but the South American trio of Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay are already promoting a joint bid for the event.

Meanwhile, English soccer’s Football Association (FA) has launched a feasibility study into a joint home nations bid for the tournament alongside Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and Ireland.

The home nations bid has already received backing from Uefa president from Aleksander Ceferin, who said in August it was “about time” the tournament returned to England for the first time since 1966.


http://www.sportspromedia.com/news/f...-2030-bid-2034
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Old June 28th, 2019, 04:58 AM   #108
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ASEAN nations bidding for 2034 FIFA World Cup

ASEAN 2034 World Cup Bid Raises Questions For FIFA. Could Euro 2020 Model Provide A Solution?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevepr.../#462bc0ae3579


2034 FIFA World Cup in ASEAN: The stadiums that will be eligible to host the tournament

https://www.foxsportsasia.com/footba...ournament/amp/
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Australia-Indonesia 2034 FIFA World Cup bid?

Australia considering 2034 FIFA World Cup bid with Indonesia

https://amp.theguardian.com/football...with-indonesia
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Old October 12th, 2019, 06:38 AM   #110
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The 2034 FIFA World Cup joint-bid from ASEAN is picking up steam

https://www.foxsportsasia.com/footba...ore-indonesia/

It was decided during the conference that five ASEAN nations — Thailand, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore and Vietnam — will feature as the host nations in the proposed joint bid.
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Hmmm. Interesting possibilities. So, the 3 biggest cities and, as of right now, with the best facilities are Bangkok, Jakarta and Singapore. So, openers could be in Jakarta and Hanoi. Semis could be in Kuala Lumpur and Singapore; and then the finals in Bangkok. But #1 - they will be us against China's 1-nation bid; and #2 - this will have to be in late September or October when the monsoon season is over.
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Yes, those are interesting problems. FIFA may have to pass up 500M people in booming ASEAN economies to get 1.4B in China.

That trade-off creates the discussion about two consecutive (or 2 out of 3) WC's in Asia.
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Hmmm. Interesting possibilities. So, the 3 biggest cities and, as of right now, with the best facilities are Bangkok, Jakarta and Singapore. So, openers could be in Jakarta and Hanoi. Semis could be in Kuala Lumpur and Singapore; and then the finals in Bangkok. But #1 - they will be us against China's 1-nation bid; and #2 - this will have to be in late September or October when the monsoon season is over.
Even though I am from Singapore, I can confidently say Singapore can host games till quarters as we only have 1 stadium that might be suitable for FIFA's requirements which has a capacity of 55,000. I haven't heard the Singapore government wanting to expand any other stadiums in the country.

So as you you said openers can be in Jakarta and Hanoi which are good options, I would prefer Jakarta. And these are the predictions I am making according to the existing capacities of the existing stadiums. Bangkok, Singapore, Jakarta and Shah Alam host the quarters. Jakarta/Kuala Lumpur and Shah Alam for semis. Last but not least, Bukit Jalil Stadium in Kuala Lumpur for the finals.
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