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Old December 12th, 2011, 10:32 PM   #21
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Old December 14th, 2011, 01:41 AM   #22
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@franz85

I have seen this render before and strongly approve, lets hope it gets the green light from all sectors and this wonderful Udinese side have a beautiful stadium to play in!
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Old December 15th, 2011, 09:19 AM   #23
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To mods: shall we move this thread to Proposed? Or open a new one?

The new stadium will have a capacity of 25.000 for football, expandable to 30-35.000 for other events like concerts.
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Here's a very interesting (and long) story about Udinese finances.

They are one of the most profitable and least debt laden club in Serie A but they barely make any money on game day revenues (only 4 million euros in 09/10). Depending on what the stadium deal is, this new stadium may be able to secure their future as a perennial top 6 club for a while.
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Old December 16th, 2011, 10:12 AM   #25
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Most Italian clubs barely make any money from matchday revenue as they rent the stadiums from councils. If Udinese build their stadium in the next few years, they will still be one of the few clubs to own their own stadium, which by default gives them a massive advantage over a lot of other clubs.

The only problem is that Udinese is from a fairly small city, so all things being equal their capacity for expanding revenue isn't particular great with matchday revenue, merchandising and TV rights. But with so many clubs behind in stadium ownership, they could get a jump start over bigger clubs, let alone similar sized ones.
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Old December 17th, 2011, 06:43 AM   #26
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Here's a very interesting (and long) story about Udinese finances.

They are one of the most profitable and least debt laden club in Serie A but they barely make any money on game day revenues (only 4 million euros in 09/10). Depending on what the stadium deal is, this new stadium may be able to secure their future as a perennial top 6 club for a while.
Yes, the article is very accurate and Udinese are the most profitable club in Serie A and have been for a long time now. This comes down to them having brilliant scouts, buying players cheap and keeping the wage bill low and then selling those players for excessive and exponential sums compared to those they were purchased for.

Udinese in the summer earned 60m euro's in player sales (Sanchez, Inler, Zapata). This will keep them going for a long time. Udinese need to operate like this, they are a selling club in a small city with no international reputation or interest meaning commercial revenue is also very small. A new stadium will boost revenue, but unlikely to prevent them from being a selling club meaning they will continue to have mixed fortunes (almost relegated 4 seasons back) to UCL participaters.

This won't keep them at the top, but ahead of the pack nevertheless.
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Most Italian clubs barely make any money from matchday revenue as they rent the stadiums from councils. If Udinese build their stadium in the next few years, they will still be one of the few clubs to own their own stadium, which by default gives them a massive advantage over a lot of other clubs.

The only problem is that Udinese is from a fairly small city, so all things being equal their capacity for expanding revenue isn't particular great with matchday revenue, merchandising and TV rights. But with so many clubs behind in stadium ownership, they could get a jump start over bigger clubs, let alone similar sized ones.
I believe that the most recent proposal was one where the council would still own the stadium and give a certain amount to the renovation of the stadium which Udinese would also part-finance for the benefit of both parties. It is unlikely they will ever own their own stadium.
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I believe that the most recent proposal was one where the council would still own the stadium and give a certain amount to the renovation of the stadium which Udinese would also part-finance for the benefit of both parties. It is unlikely they will ever own their own stadium.
Oh ok, in that case it will just be a cosmetic thing for Udinese.
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Old December 17th, 2011, 08:32 AM   #29
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I believe that the most recent proposal was one where the council would still own the stadium and give a certain amount to the renovation of the stadium which Udinese would also part-finance for the benefit of both parties. It is unlikely they will ever own their own stadium.
No, only Udinese will spend 25 million euro for the renovation.
The council will give the stadium for 99 years at Udinese, and will use it only for 15-20 days a year for other events (concerts).
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Old December 18th, 2011, 05:02 PM   #30
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As far as I understand a big issue is that local councils mostly do not want to sell the stadiums to the clubs or see them move as the rent is a form of income for cash-strapped authorities. It may even make them block clubs from obtaining a plot within a city's boundary. This was the background behind that law(not pressed AFAIK) which would have created a window whereby clubs could purchase council-owed grounds.

I suspect though that with the 'austerity package' Italy has passed local authorities will be under pressure to raise cash up front so they might be willing to sell stadiums for short-term gain.
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Old December 19th, 2011, 10:39 PM   #31
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It seems that Udinese Calcio has asked German designers to plan the new stadium.
Rumors tell that the final project will be realized by GMP of Hamburg.
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Ah, the ETFE architects. In fairness, some of their work is actually pretty decent. The recent World Cup stadium in Cape Town is certainly a fine example of this.
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Ah, the ETFE architects. In fairness, some of their work is actually pretty decent. The recent World Cup stadium in Cape Town is certainly a fine example of this.
But most of their work is too much of a "copy-paste". Is the rendering of Franz85 one submitted by GMP? Certainly doesn't look like it.
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Old December 21st, 2011, 05:32 PM   #35
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But most of their work is too much of a "copy-paste". Is the rendering of Franz85 one submitted by GMP? Certainly doesn't look like it.
No no, it isn't...it's a preliminary project made by a group of designers in Udine.
The new one of GMP should be presented in February 2012.
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IMO GMP are not football fans.
There stadiums are nice buildings, but stands are not close to the pitch and that membrane
Very bad for fans. It absorb the ound. Good for concerts, but not good for the atmosphere at football matches.
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No luxury box, if they renovate, and really need to renovate, they should put in club seats and luxury boxes.
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No luxury box, if they renovate, and really need to renovate, they should put in club seats and luxury boxes.
if GMP is on it, we can rest assured they won't forget that
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No luxury box, if they renovate, and really need to renovate, they should put in club seats and luxury boxes.
Don't worry...let's wait the final work made by architects.
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